andyman7 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I agree that the ETH jumper is such a distinctive element that it should really be part of the supplied build rather than user-added from a parts pack 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, andyman7 said: I agree that the ETH jumper is such a distinctive element that it should really be part of the supplied build rather than user-added from a parts pack Is it easy to apply and accurate I wonder ? Bachmann out a few supposedly ETH ones without even bothering before to put the socket Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, rob D2 said: Is it easy to apply and accurate I wonder ? Bachmann out a few supposedly ETH ones without even bothering before to put the socket I don't expect it is difficult to apply and I know it will stimulate the debate about how RTR super detail models should be. However it is part of the 'face' of a standard ETH version. Note that some ETH 47s had the equipment on the bufferbeam rather than above so, for example, 32-800DS 47 404 'Hadrian' did not in real life have the prominent jumper receptacle on the lower cab front. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1175051037200 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The next batch are here according to Bachmann and soon in stock according to Rails. Better prepare the credit card for some news.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 The ETH plug on the front of the loco is easy to fit. You need to attach the cable to the junction box first, then fix the plug and the junction box to the loco and set them up so the cable is aligned with the plug. Do not glue the cable to the plug, as it will cause a problem if you need to remove the body obviously. See the photos here. Fitting both ends with all the bits took me around 15 minutes, so it's not a time-consuming task. This is the Kernow exclusive 47484 . This time some of the bogie parts, such as half the brake actuators had already been fitted, so that saved some time. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 47712 shipped from KMS Railtech apparently! Wasn't expecting it so quickly, happy days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) Class 47/7 47711 'Greyfriars Bobby' BR Blue (Large Logo) Diesel Locomotive (DCC Sound) Arrived this morning at 8:30 after being sent by Rails of Sheffield yesterday at 11:30 - incredible service! A stunning model with fantastic sound, it runs like a dream and is very smooth and quiet with the sound switched off. It's my second Bachmann model in space of a week and my third overall, I've yet to be disappointed with any of them. I actually cancelled an order for the new Hornby Class 56 in Large Logo livery which ironically also came into stock this week also - I chose this instead. Really glad I did, I love the little features such as the machine room detailing which even has lighting. I doubt the Hornby will even have cab lights and probably have an 8 pin socket, immediately limiting the available functions that can be controlled without significant modification and no room for a speaker of course. Edited September 30, 2022 by APT Fan 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, APT Fan said: I doubt the Hornby will even have cab lights and probably have an 8 pin socket, immediately limiting the available functions that can be controlled without significant modification and no room for a speaker of course. The Hornby what? Hornby are now moving to 21 pin sockets but I agree that the configuration of these latest Bachmann offerings is superior, both Plux22 and 21 pin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APT Fan Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 1 hour ago, andyman7 said: The Hornby what? Hornby are now moving to 21 pin sockets but I agree that the configuration of these latest Bachmann offerings is superior, both Plux22 and 21 pin. Class 56 as stated above? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, APT Fan said: Class 56 as stated above? The new release Hornby Class 56 does have a 21 pin socket but whether that has been used to add any further lighting configuration I don't know. Meanwhile the heavily weathered Bachmann 47 526 has also arrived... Edited September 30, 2022 by andyman7 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 1, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2022 Re Class 56s, don't forget that Cavalex have theirs coming out soon-ish, and it's looking to be a quite significant upgrade in terms of appearance and features from the Hornby versions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 The weathering on the 47 looks good - i don't see bachy having a lot of competition in the class 47 area , the rest are up fir debate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris56057 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 I would be interested to see photos of 47790 in DRS if anyone has managed to pick one up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted October 1, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2022 47 experts please. Could I renumber 435 to 525 ?? I note as built, 435 had fixed 3 part rad grills as apposed to the Serck shutters on 525. How is 435 modelled ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gary H said: 47 experts please. Could I renumber 435 to 525 ?? I note as built, 435 had fixed 3 part rad grills as apposed to the Serck shutters on 525. How is 435 modelled ? Looking at eBay images , 435 is modelled with 2 part serck, dominos and what appears to be a round boiler port ( spanner ?), Depends what era you are looking at , as I believe they all had the 3 part grills being built and were all converted , 435 I reckon dates from about 1977-1981 edit. It seems 525 was a swap directly from 0000 headcodes to opaque markers at or before 1977, so you’d have an issue there Edited October 2, 2022 by rob D2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus1 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Walker Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, roythebus1 said: What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. Or turn off the loco red taillights when pulling coaches or wagons! Edited October 2, 2022 by Tony Walker 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, roythebus1 said: What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. Something I'm trying to rectify with my modelling. However, all the things that are needed to be done to get good quality running that looks realistic are extensive, and not for the faint hearted. Bear in mind that the first of these is accepting that 2nd radius curves are out, and settling on a minimum of approx 36 inch or more radius throughout a layout, something that many will not accept as they want to cram as much in on their layouts as possible. Edited October 2, 2022 by Ian J. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, roythebus1 said: What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. 32 minutes ago, Tony Walker said: Or turn of the red taillights when pulling coaches or wagons! These are generalisations when the hobby has always contained a broad church, from scenic modellers to which the trains are background to modellers who obsess on every tiny hatch or rivet on a loco but are content to operate these on a layout without signals or with manifestly improbable civil engineering. I remember many years ago visiting a modeller whose subject was BR SR EMUs. He had a layout that was functional but crude in general terms but spent a lot of time telling me about the efforts he had to go to to ensure that his EMUs had double bolster bogies rather than single bolster, From normal viewing distance this distinction was indiscernible but the general presentation of the layout was very much so. My point was not as a critique of the layout which is an entirely personal matter, but about how that individual's perception was so skewed to a factor that obsessed him. Edited October 2, 2022 by andyman7 Spelling 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Tony Walker said: Or turn off the loco red taillights when pulling coaches or wagons! In fairness half the locos on the market don't allow that unless you manually disconnect the lights inside or flick a switch underneath. BUT, I do also draw parallels here. Realistic lighting is massively important on modern locos IMO. You'd far easier notice incorrect or inactive lighting with a loco going at speed than you would a small detail on a bogie. Edited October 2, 2022 by TomScrut 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian J. Posted October 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, andyman7 said: ...My point was not as a critique of the layout which is an entirely personal matter, but about how that individual's perception was so skewed to a factor that obsessed him. I'm stuck in that state with front of cab footsteps on these Bachmann 47s. For all that they're not that bad from normal viewing distances, I can't stop seeing how poor and unprototypical they look in photos on here, and remembering that Lima did a better representation purely from a moulded on version on their tooling thirty something years ago. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 29/09/2022 at 13:25, andyman7 said: 47 404 'Hadrian' did not in real life have the prominent jumper receptacle on the lower cab front. http://www.class47.co.uk/c47_zoom_v3.php?img=1175051037200 Indeed. The generators were built with that arrangement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, roythebus1 said: What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. That’s because to a majority it appears , the locos are the stars , the prima donnas, the reason for a lot of other modelling, thus the focus tends to be on them . How many TMD models are there ? The operation is a dull as a wet Sunday in Scunthorpe , but they serve as a “ showcase “ for the locos 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, rob D2 said: That’s because to a majority it appears , the locos are the stars , the prima donnas, the reason for a lot of other modelling, thus the focus tends to be on them . How many TMD models are there ? The operation is a dull as a wet Sunday in Scunthorpe , but they serve as a “ showcase “ for the locos It's a beautiful autumn Sunday here in Scunthorpe today. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, roythebus1 said: What amazes me about threads such as this is how pedantic today's modellers are about small details on locos yet can't be bothered to close-couple coaching stock. And seem happy to run on narrow gauge track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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