47606odin Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Is the new deltic any more accurate that the old deltic seeing as there were lots of minor issues previously. I could be interested in D9000 with a headlight if it’s right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It still appears not to have the correct tumblehome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It's essentially the same model but updated for late 70's/80's + preservation 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 That's a shame. Back to the DJH one, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I suspect it will be like the class 40 centre headcode version; same model essentially, but with some features updated such as plated cab quarterlights and sand filler hatches. Having said that, if the photo mock up isn't the final body shape to be used, then it may be all new, but the photo that's been posted in various places looks identical to the existing body shape in terms of major 'shape'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share Posted January 31, 2023 On 08/12/2021 at 20:38, philiprporter said: I suspect it will be like the class 40 centre headcode version; same model essentially, but with some features updated such as plated cab quarterlights and sand filler hatches. Having said that, if the photo mock up isn't the final body shape to be used, then it may be all new, but the photo that's been posted in various places looks identical to the existing body shape in terms of major 'shape'. On Facebook I received a reply saying they have improved the shape of the nose and changed the tumblehome, however they didn’t respond to when these might be appearing 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) Just saw the latest images - the newly plated headcode boxes are done very badly - do they not look at the prototype? BR arrows too big on the white window ones Cab windows the wrong colour on 55002 Edited March 23, 2023 by deltic17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 07/12/2021 at 13:25, 47606odin said: Is the new deltic any more accurate that the old deltic seeing as there were lots of minor issues previously. I could be interested in D9000 with a headlight if it’s right I saw the locos today on the Heljan Stand and was chatting with Ben about it, The Deltic body is completely retooled and does look better with less bulbous nose and tumblehome. Also the gap between the bogie and body looks good, certainly I would be tempted with 55022 which has the glass rather than plated headcode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 hours ago, 37114 said: I saw the locos today on the Heljan Stand and was chatting with Ben about it, The Deltic body is completely retooled and does look better with less bulbous nose and tumblehome. Also the gap between the bogie and body looks good, certainly I would be tempted with 55022 which has the glass rather than plated headcode. that’s good. I’ve pre ordered D9000 as I had it on the Ramsgate so glass headcode panel. I also saw it in Selhurst lift shop when it was in around the end of 87 early 88 whenever it was. I was a first year apprentice in the training school at the time, and it was the first Deltic I ever saw. Got some photos of it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 photos from earlier, they look really good to me. 55022 55015 Personally I would paint the marker light grommets black which would look better. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 3 hours ago, 37114 said: 2 photos from earlier, they look really good to me. 55022 55015 Personally I would paint the marker light grommets black which would look better. they really should do better plated over headcodes as they look bad it would be interesting to see one side by side with an original model, but that nose does look a lot better 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D9016 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) The D9000 model is nice but the application of the yellow panel has missed the dark green band across the base, making the front end look decidedly wrong. Perhaps Heljan could look to issue a green line decal to fix this, it's going to be a difficult thing to paint. Edited December 22, 2023 by D9016 Added image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Crepello Posted December 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 23/03/2023 at 21:07, deltic17 said: Just saw the latest images - the newly plated headcode boxes are done very badly - do they not look at the prototype? BR arrows too big on the white window ones Cab windows the wrong colour on 55002 I assume you mean the cab window area should be a greenish shade (which I always questioned when the prototype appeared in its ‘preservation’ livery.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halvarras Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 58 minutes ago, D9016 said: The D9000 model is nice but the application of the yellow panel has missed the dark green band across the base, making the front end look decidedly wrong. Perhaps Heljan could look to issue a green line decal to fix this, it's going to be a difficult thing to paint. The yellow panel shape is poor along its top edge and corners too. And........old red/white OHLE flashes?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted December 23, 2023 Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 20 hours ago, Halvarras said: The yellow panel shape is poor along its top edge and corners too. And........old red/white OHLE flashes?? when originally done and used on virgin trains to Ramsgate it did wear original flashes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 She is beautiful..... 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, ac1874 said: She is beautiful..... I was very tempted when I saw it at Crewe. Looks gorgeous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted January 2 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 2 If they ever do a purple beast I’m definitely in for one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLIBOD17 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I was intending resisting the new batch of Deltics but having seen images of them succumbed. I’ve corrected the eth cables on 55022 & painted them black. As regards 55015 I’ve blinged this up & added Railtec 3D Rainhill plaques to the headcode panels. Both models have been further enhanced with Protoneo self adhesive etched nameplates which match exactly the size of the factory applied nameplates. Would be great if somebody was to produce Deltic Farewell headboards in 0 ! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, DLIBOD17 said: I was intending resisting the new batch of Deltics but having seen images of them succumbed. I’ve corrected the eth cables on 55022 & painted them black. As regards 55015 I’ve blinged this up & added Railtec 3D Rainhill plaques to the headcode panels. Both models have been further enhanced with Protoneo self adhesive etched nameplates which match exactly the size of the factory applied nameplates. Would be great if somebody was to produce Deltic Farewell headboards in 0 ! Looks nice! I was tempted by 55022 when one came up on ebay recently. Is anyone able to advise if the cantrail silver grilles are separately fitted or part of the body moulding please? If I bought one, I would want to back date it without the bling... Edited February 2 by 37114 Typo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLIBOD17 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Dear 37114, Looking at the grilles I’d say the radiator grilles are separate items. They fit very tightly but I reckon they’re not part of the main body moulding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLIBOD17 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Fox transfers to the rescue for one of the Farewell headboards. The winged thistle one they’ve produced for a while….. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 06/02/2024 at 20:44, DLIBOD17 said: Dear 37114, Looking at the grilles I’d say the radiator grilles are separate items. They fit very tightly but I reckon they’re not part of the main body moulding. Thanks that is handy to know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philiprporter Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 To anyone who has bought the updated Deltic, would you say that the overall shape is significantly changed from the original? It's hard to tell from photos, but I read that Heljan had made the nose look less bulbous, but it still looks to be rather too curved? I've got 4 of the originals and have upgraded them in various ways to improve the appearance, but the nose always looks too bulbous to me (unlike the Accurascale OO version which looks spot on) and I didn't want to buy an upgraded Deltic only to find that its essentially the same body shell, just with sand filler hatches removed and cab quarterlights infilled. Many thanks for any info any owners out there can provide. Best wishes, Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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