RMweb Premium Gary H Posted January 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hello all, I did a search on this but couldn't find anything. Is the Class 45 marker light version still using the 2 axle drive bogie? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) All of the recent 45’s are driven on 6 axles - my D108 from 2015 is so current models will definitely be Edited January 4, 2022 by MikeParkin65 Sorry - was thinking of the 40 rather than the 45 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said: All of the recent 45’s are driven on 6 axles - my D108 from 2015 is so current models will definitely be As far as I know Mike even on the 2015 model only 2 axles are driven on each bogie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 hours ago, pheaton said: As far as I know Mike even on the 2015 model only 2 axles are driven on each bogie Yes you’re right - I’ve confused it with the 40, sorry to unintentionally mislead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I've checked with one of the latest 45s which I bought in the summer, BR green Royal Tank Regiment. The drive is on 2 axles per bogie, but unusually, this isn't on both outer axles (ignoring the front load carrying axle). Using the 3 driving axles, the drive is on the centre and front driving axles, the rear driving axle is unpowered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted January 4, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2022 Thanks, fellas, confirmed what I suspected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted January 4, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2022 Out of interest, does anybody think it is actually an issue? I am more than happy with the performance of my Peaks (and I have way too many) and one of the best performing "locos" there is a Bo-Bo in the form of the Heljan 128 which will pull anything (and yes, I know it is not a loco really). Roy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Shades of the horror of a Co-Co actually being a A1A-A1A - provided the model runs well and pulls well, what wheels are powered is not material. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Confused me this one as well. I have a fairly recent 'Whernside' Class 44 which is 2 axles per bogie, and a recent-edition 40, which is 3 axles per bogie. Doesn't seem to affect the performance - both are superb with decent haulage capacities. Al. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 5, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Butler Henderson said: Shades of the horror of a Co-Co actually being a A1A-A1A - provided the model runs well and pulls well, what wheels are powered is not material. 14 hours ago, atom3624 said: Confused me this one as well. I have a fairly recent 'Whernside' Class 44 which is 2 axles per bogie, and a recent-edition 40, which is 3 axles per bogie. Doesn't seem to affect the performance - both are superb with decent haulage capacities. Al. Agreed - absolutely no discernable difference in the performance if the 40 or the 45 on my layout. I can understand those who want the same driven axles as the prototype though - this hobby is a broad church and its just another thing that can be true to prototype so why not? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gary H Posted January 5, 2022 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2022 Agree, no difference in haulage terms but what i was less enamoured with was the very early Peak release where the inner axle on each bogie was un-powered, but IIRC, had a spring arrangement inside it that tended to cause the bogie to tip back and rock and cause derailments, I'm going back a good few years though when Bachmann released the Class 44. I think the 40 used the same drive method back then to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 15:59, Roy Langridge said: Out of interest, does anybody think it is actually an issue? I am more than happy with the performance of my Peaks (and I have way too many) and one of the best performing "locos" there is a Bo-Bo in the form of the Heljan 128 which will pull anything (and yes, I know it is not a loco really). Roy Perhaps not with the powered axles but possibly with the pick up arrangement. I got one last year (Lytham St Annes) the running out of the box was pretty rough. I ran it in an hour each direction and it sounded less rough than it did to start with, however I found that it failed to restart when stopped about 50% of the time. As a result I returned it and got a replacement. I doubt the rough running was related to the pick up arrangement but wondered if the stalling was. I run DC. The replacement runs a lot smoother but still stalls more than most other locos I have but nothing like the rate the first one stalled at. I have bought DCC Concepts wiper pick ups which I intend to fit to the set of wheels without pick ups. However I did not want to do that until I was sure it did not need returned under warranty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted January 6, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 hour ago, 313201 said: Although I have never owned a class 44/45/46 loco, I do have a class 40 which only drives on 4 axles although I have been trying to think of ways I could possibly get it to drive on 6 axles but up to now I have not had much success with the idea. Haven't looked but are the 6 wheel drive bogies from the latest version available on the new Bachmann spares site? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grovenor Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 17:29, Butler Henderson said: Shades of the horror of a Co-Co actually being a A1A-A1A - provided the model runs well and pulls well, what wheels are powered is not material. In this case a 1-Co-Co-1being a 1-B-1-1-B-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold pheaton Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 hours ago, 313201 said: Although I have never owned a class 44/45/46 loco, I do have a class 40 which only drives on 4 axles although I have been trying to think of ways I could possibly get it to drive on 6 axles but up to now I have not had much success with the idea. i dont think you can because the retooled 40 uses a completely different system for pickups and the bogie mounts are different unfortunately. whilst the peaks only having 4 driven axles means nothing from a performance point of view, the pickups leave a lot to be desired unfortunately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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