RMweb Premium nightstar.train Posted June 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2022 I just saw a picture of 37425 “Sir Robert McAlpine/ Concrete Bob” and it got me wondering. Are there any other locos with different names on each side? Picture of 37425 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted June 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2022 The Ffestiniog Fairlie Earl of Merioneth has the name in English on one side and in Welsh (Iarll Meirionnydd) on the other. https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Earl_of_Merioneth_II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 38 minutes ago, Andy Kirkham said: The Ffestiniog Fairlie Earl of Merioneth has the name in English on one side and in Welsh (Iarll Meirionnydd) on the other. https://www.festipedia.org.uk/wiki/Earl_of_Merioneth_II As did at a late stage in it's life Britannia 70010 Owen Glendower, one side had the welsh spelling Owain Glyndwr (or similar). Both were quite neatly painted on, BR had removed the originals. Brit15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 31296 was such an example Brush Traction No.365 BR D5829 Tops. 31296 New 1/62 Amlwch Freighter/Tren Nwyddau Amlwych named 9/86 named at Associated Octel, Amlwch 3/9/86. Later transferred to 47330 from 3/90. 31296 was the first class 31 to be named Name removed 3/90 Withdrawn 12/93 Cut up 1/04 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Does this count? Ely station pilot 08594 had painted unofficial nameplates - ELY on one side, and on the other when it was at Hitchin and the paint job had become damaged) it became FLY. I probably should have photographed it, but I never had my camera with me when I saw Fly shunting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bendall Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, nightstar.train said: I just saw a picture of 37425 “Sir Robert McAlpine/ Concrete Bob” and it got me wondering. Are there any other locos with different names on each side? Current ones just for starters, numbers of others no longer carried 43198 Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004 / Driver Brian Cooper 15 June 1947-5 October 1999 47727 Edinburgh Castle / Caisteal Dhùn Èideann 50007 Hercules / Furious 66533 Hanjin Express / Senator Express 86259 Les Ross / Peter Pan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Ok, it's a UK forum, but standard practice in (West) Malaysia. KTMB applied names in Malay script to one side, Roman to the other - both steam and diesel. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Similarly, the Irish Rail 201 class have ( River ) names in English on one side and Gaelic on t'other. Owain Glyndwr was a very odd case as TWO B.R. steam locos carried the same name at the same time - namely the aforementioned Brit and Vale of Rheidol No.7 ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) Are most of these really different names or just translations of the same name? (other than Simon Bendall's examples) Edited June 15, 2022 by eastwestdivide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Wickham Green too said: Similarly, the Irish Rail 201 class have ( River ) names in English on one side and Gaelic on t'other. Owain Glyndwr was a very odd case as TWO B.R. steam locos carried the same name at the same time - namely the aforementioned Brit and Vale of Rheidol No.7 ! Regarding the Vale Of Rheidol. Strange to mention the two locomotives named Owain Glyndwr (even though one was named Owen Glendower), yet no mention of the three BR steam locomotives named Prince Of Wales! VoR, GWR Star and LNER A3. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: ... three BR steam locomotives named Prince Of Wales! ... Was 4043 still around when No.9 got its name back ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted June 15, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2022 Power car 43467 - Nottinghamshire Fire and Rescue Service on one side and the British Transport Police on the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted June 15, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: Was 4043 still around when No.9 got its name back ? I think not. 4043 was withdrawn in 1951 and the Rheidol trio were named in 1956. However BR had a fourth Prince of Wales - ex-GCR Class D11 No. 62662 which lasted until 1960 BR also had three steam locos concurrently named North British. The quirk in this case being that two of them belonged to the same class - the WD 2-10-0s Edited June 15, 2022 by Andy Kirkham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCB Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I remember a red class 47 taking the Caledonian Sleeper south from Inverness on several consecutive evenings named appropriately "Y Draig Goch" on one side and I believe "The Red Dragon," on the other. This was the sort of Imaginative branding, a red Welsh loco on a blue Anglo Scottish prestige service which sets British Railways apart from the well run railways of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Andy Kirkham said: I think not. 4043 was withdrawn in 1951 and the Rheidol trio were named in 1956. However BR had a fourth Prince of Wales - ex-GCR Class D11 No. 62662 which lasted until 1960 BR also had three steam locos concurrently named North British. The quirk in this case being that two of them belonged to the same class - the WD 2-10-0s Damn. That's right, I'm getting the D11 mixed up with the Star. I knew there was three Prince Of Wales at the time. I did ignore the LNWR locomotive of the same name though. Getting back to the oddity of locomotives with different names on each side. ISTR some of the Class 60s only had them on one side. I remember being told it was the ones named after "peaks" that were disappearing and they didn't know whether it was railway enthusiasts or countryside fans that were doing it. It does seem strange that the ones named after people didn't have the same problem so I reckon it was the latter. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Andy Kirkham said: However BR had a fourth Prince of Wales - ex-GCR Class D11 No. 62662 which lasted until 1960 ... What's more this name was already carried by the D11 when the LNER re-named A1 2553 from 'Manna' - most - if not all - other duplications came about by amalgamation of railways. I'm not convinced that the 'North British' plates on WD 20-10-0s were intended to be names, as such, or just glorified builders' plates / adverts !!?! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroar53 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 For a short time 73141, when in Network Rail ownership, ran with 'Ron Westwood' one side, and 'David Gay' on the other. (February 2009) These nameplates came off when 73141 went into GBRf ownership soon after to become 'Charlotte' (July 2009). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 90006 Modern Railways Magazine/Roger Ford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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