Bachmann announce all new Class 37

[MikeParkin65]

To my eyes the forthcoming green Type 3’s are beautifully finished and I think the colour has more life in it than the Accurascale version. 

[Roy Langridge]

3 hours ago, MikeParkin65 said:

To my eyes the forthcoming green Type 3’s are beautifully finished and I think the colour has more life in it than the Accurascale version. 

It looks to have a more satin sheen to it, but until we see production models next to each other under the same light, I am reserving judgement. 
 

What those photos do show is how badly the nose seam is in this livery, particularly on the split headcode version. 
 

Roy

[97406]

5 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

It looks to have a more satin sheen to it, but until we see production models next to each other under the same light, I am reserving judgement. 
 

What those photos do show is how badly the nose seam is in this livery, particularly on the split headcode version. 
 

Roy

 

The windscreen glazing also lets the model down due to it being very prismatic and not as flush as I’d like. There is Laserglaze available now and I will be fitting it to ‘Cwmbran’ over the next few days.

[adb968008]

The A vs B 37 debate seems to be coalescing about window dressing and nose jobs.

 

I dont think a race has really been so tight.

One things for sure, we consumers are getting a lot of class 37’s this year…
 

A taste of things to come…

 

two versions apparently… cast and fabricated bogies separated the Inverness famous five.

 

Edited March 19, 2023 by adb968008

[Southwich]

2 hours ago, 97406 said:

 

The windscreen glazing also lets the model down due to it being very prismatic and not as flush as I’d like. There is Laserglaze available now and I will be fitting it to ‘Cwmbran’ over the next few days.

 

My set and the test samples from Brian arrived yesterday (and my shell that he used for the glazing). Test photos from Brian below:
 

 

Look forward to glazing a few tractors when I’m back from Ally Pally later.

 

Kind regards,

 

Will

[Nick-L]

Bang up job there - the ultimate windscreen combination, Bachmann new tool and EE lazerglaze.  Looking forward to adding these to my repaints next week.

[cairnsroadworks]

14 minutes ago, Southwich said:

 

My set and the test samples from Brian arrived yesterday (and my shell that he used for the glazing). Test photos from Brian below:
 

 

Look forward to glazing a few tractors when I’m back from Ally Pally later.

 

Kind regards,

 

Will

This looks great. I hate fitting them though, never get a clean finish, there’s always a fingerprint somewhere 🤣

Edited March 19, 2023 by cairnsroadworks
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[Southwich]

6 minutes ago, cairnsroadworks said:

This looks great. I hate fitting them though, never get a clean finish, there’s always a fingerprint somewhere 🤣

Put latex gloves on - ensures no fingerprint or marks to be seen!

 

Kind regards,

 

Will

[MikeParkin65]

9 hours ago, Roy Langridge said:

It looks to have a more satin sheen to it, but until we see production models next to each other under the same light, I am reserving judgement. 
 

What those photos do show is how badly the nose seam is in this livery, particularly on the split headcode version. 
 

Roy

Agree its marginal and I already have a AS on preorder so Im not neither pro or against either manufacturer.  This is the AS D6700 in the same Hall although not under identical lighting. All of these are of course pre production samples - the AS has a visible mold line on the nose, the windscreen has been pushed in and theres a chip out of the buffer. Both me and my friend at Ally Pally yesterday did feel that Bachmann had the green slightly better  - the photos do show how marginal the difference is. If my local will agree to swapping the preorder I hope to switch from the AS D6702 to the Bachmann D6711 largely due to the blue data panel on the AS model. As @adb968008 says we are lucky to have the choice :)

 

Edited March 19, 2023 by MikeParkin65
Trying to turn photo round but won’t have it - let’s just say the AS model has Magnesion lol

[tinsley-toton]

1 hour ago, MikeParkin65 said:

Agree its marginal and I already have a AS on preorder so Im not neither pro or against either manufacturer.  This is the AS D6700 in the same Hall although not under identical lighting. All of these are of course pre production samples - the AS has a visible mold line on the nose, the windscreen has been pushed in and theres a chip out of the buffer. Both me and my friend at Ally Pally yesterday did feel that Bachmann had the green slightly better  - the photos do show how marginal the difference is. If my local will agree to swapping the preorder I hope to switch from the AS D6702 to the Bachmann D6711 largely due to the blue data panel on the AS model. As @adb968008 says we are lucky to have the choice :)

 

Here you go.

[97406]

18 minutes ago, tinsley-toton said:

Here you go.

 

The thing that stands out on the AS 37 from the above and the production. samples is the heaviness of the seam around the windscreens. However the windscreen moulding presses in from behind, and I believe it will be possible to fettle it so it sits in there a little flusher. Will report back (on the other thread) when I have one at my disposal.

[97406]

3 hours ago, Southwich said:

Put latex gloves on - ensures no fingerprint or marks to be seen!

 

Kind regards,

 

Will

 

I let the acrylic varnish used to stick the panes in cure for a while, then clean them up with a cotton bud dipped in acrylic water borne thinners. I will use latex gloves this time though.

Edited March 19, 2023 by 97406

[sulzer71]

7 hours ago, adb968008 said:

The A vs B 37 debate seems to be coalescing about window dressing and nose jobs.

 

I dont think a race has really been so tight.

One things for sure, we consumers are getting a lot of class 37’s this year…
 

A taste of things to come…

 

two versions apparently… cast and fabricated bogies separated the Inverness famous five.

 

The first couple of pictures suggests to me we may be seeing 37260/261/262/264 at some point

[TomScrut]

9 hours ago, adb968008 said:

The A vs B 37 debate seems to be coalescing about window dressing and nose jobs.

 

I dont think a race has really been so tight.

 

Ultimately for me it will boil down to which ones get done. Might be harder to separate with BR liveries but in privatisation there are that many livery and/or operator options that until both do everything it will probably be left down to whoever does one you want. That also stands for the old Bachmann model IMO in that I don't intend on replacing any of the ones I still have.

 

418 for example is different operationally to all the DRS 37/4 in large logo, and so is (or more, was) 37025. I couldn't buy an Accurascale 37402/9 to do the same thing as the Bachmann 37418.

Edited March 19, 2023 by TomScrut

[younGGuns7]

38 minutes ago, TomScrut said:

 

Ultimately for me it will boil down to which ones get done. Might be harder to separate with BR liveries but in privatisation there are that many livery and/or operator options that until both do everything it will probably be left down to whoever does one you want. That also stands for the old Bachmann model IMO in that I don't intend on replacing any of the ones I still have.

 

418 for example is different operationally to all the DRS 37/4 in large logo, and so is (or more, was) 37025. I couldn't buy an Accurascale 37402/9 to do the same thing as the Bachmann 37418.

Exactly, I have held back ordering the GSYP full headcode in case the a BGYE one is coming from AS but if it doesn’t come then I will order one, I think it comes done to economics - what you want/ what you can afford 

[cairnsroadworks]

6 hours ago, 97406 said:

 

I let the acrylic varnish used to stick the panes in cure for a while, then clean them up with a cotton bud dipped in acrylic water borne thinners. I will use latex gloves this time though.

That’s another good tip. Thanks to you both. 

[adb968008]

There was two highland 37260-4 series on display, one with cast bogies, one with fabricated.

I was told that was not an accident.

 

37260 - Cast  (Radio Highland) - Acquired between Feb and Mar 1982 and changed back to Fabricated between July and December 1987.

37261 - Fabricated (Caithness)

37262 - Fabricated (Dounreay)

37263 - Fabricated (unnamed )*

37264 - Fabricated (unnamed )**

So we can deduce we are getting

 

37260 as one version, in either Blue (cMarch 1982- April 1984, or Large Logo  June 1984 to cDec 1987

 

and at least one of 37261 or 37262.

 

As a bet i’m reckoning 37260 will be large logo, and as we just had 37201 in Dutch, i’m going for 37262 in Engineers grey.

(This will suit me right down to the ground too).

 

 

it would however be easily possible to create 37264 with a buffer swap.

 

* We can eliminate 37263, its headlight was on top of the centre if the nose bonnet, and it went from Blue, to Engineers and onto Dutch, into the 1990’s in that condition, moving from Inverness down to Bristol.. this would be a remarkable model in its own right to offer… it did later get a standard headlamp, but inbetwen the headlamp did also get moved slightly lower, in its Dutch livery days. It also has oval buffers throughout.

 

** we can eliminate 37264, whilst it wasnt an IS one, it was an ED one but photographed on Far North as well as West Highland, hence the inclusion in the list. The headlight persisted in the condition of the picture, and moved to the standard position, before acquiring a standard headlight, it stands out as having an ED Terrier. But it is also eliminated as it has oval buffers.

Edited March 19, 2023 by adb968008

[Nick-L]

18 hours ago, cairnsroadworks said:

That’s another good tip. Thanks to you both. 

I’m a big fan of canopy glue or ‘glue and glaze’.  It’s a safer bet than any clear coat as it’s super easy to clean off with water.

[Southwich]

 

 

Busy morning at work this morning…

 

Latest tractor fitted with Brian’s latest LaserGlaze. Sharpie’d edges and Glue & Glaze made light work of the task. Well worth the effort and shows just how good the new tooling is. 2 more painted ones to go…

 

Kind regards,

 

Will

[The Fatadder]

That looks absolutely spot on,  now how about a standard release of a freight loco in that livery Bachmann….

[Nick-L]

Looks spot on that.

[97406]

I'm taking the plunge with my 37430, though only planning to fit the Laserglaze to the cab windscreens. One thing to beware of when removing the body is to be gentle with removing the JP2 plug in the nose ends as despite careful (or so I thought) leverage of the plug from the socket, the socket came away from the PCB. I glued the base back in, resoldered with a fine tip on the iron and then reinforced the mounting with more superglue and activator away from any soldered connectors. Tested it and it works.

 

The existing windscreens were well glued in on mine, so ran a small craft knife between the screens and the bodyshell and pushed them in with a blunt instrument after they had loosened.

 

It's a pricy model to break though which is what puts me off getting any more at the moment, though will keep a keen eye out for any discounted ones on offer.

 

Edited March 21, 2023 by 97406

[97406]

Done and dusted! I've just done the windscreens with Laserglaze

[cairnsroadworks]

13 hours ago, 97406 said:

Done and dusted! I've just done the windscreens with Laserglaze

Oooh nice. Perfect level of weathering too I’d say. 

[97406]

33 minutes ago, cairnsroadworks said:

Oooh nice. Perfect level of weathering too I’d say. 

Weathering was done by brushing dilute matt black/frame dirt acrylic into the grilles, and airbrush on the roof and around the lower bodysides. I then removed a lot of the weathering on the bodysides with cotton buds dipped in acrylic thinners. I worked off photos of the loco from back in the day. There is now a little weathering powder on the roof as I wore a little of the dirt off trying to get the damn thing back together - I found a broken wire to the pickups on one of the bogies and had fun getting that back in and working. You may just spot the dislodged chain on the rear bogie that wouldn't clip back in (the little metal thingy that it clips into on the bogie had spread) so it has now been removed. Bar the chain and one lamp bracket (on the other end - replaced with a homemade one that looks OK from a distance) the loco is complete!