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The road to the moon and beyond to Mars.


ERIC ALLTORQUE
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Might be good to go sometime next week if the seal can be made to work on the pad; the fuel in question is liquid hydrogen, not the easiest stuff to deal with. If not the whole caboodle will have to be moved back off the pad, and we will be looking at several weeks.  But it’s not a race and NASA have learned the safety first lesson the hard way…

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5 hours ago, Flying Pig said:

I confess I still find the whole Boca Chica thing a bit strange. How can you build a vehicle expected to withstand hypersonic re-entry in a field?  

Why? Cape Canaveral is just as exposed. They are both on the coast, and I think Boca Chica is about as far south as you can get and still be in the continental US, Miami and the Florida Keys are further south but not as suitable, too many people getting in the way.

 

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2 hours ago, jpendle said:

Why? Cape Canaveral is just as exposed. They are both on the coast, and I think Boca Chica is about as far south as you can get and still be in the continental US, Miami and the Florida Keys are further south but not as suitable, too many people getting in the way.

 

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Because afaik rockets are not actually manufactured at Cape Canaveral, at most assembled from stages built elsewhere.  Spacex's own Falcon 9 boosters are manufactured in a proper aerospace facility, as have been all supersonic and hypersonic vehicles previously flown.  Spaceship has to re-enter from orbital speeds and ultimately from an interplanetary trajectory, which will tesult in very serious aerodynamic and mechanical loads, possibly higher than any previous vehicle has had to withstand.  These are the kind of conditions where even the smallest flaw in a structure can lead to its destruction.

 

How can you build to the necessary standards outside a well-controlled environment?

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2 hours ago, Flying Pig said:

Spacex's own Falcon 9 boosters are manufactured in a proper aerospace facility

If you consider a 1930's aircraft factory with the main door open to the elements a "proper" facility then yes.

 

I've been there when SpaceX engineers were attaching a rocket engine to a Falcon 9 booster stage. Men, and a couple of women, in jeans and T-shirts listening to extremely loud music while they worked!

 

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On 03/09/2022 at 22:29, The Johnster said:

Might be good to go sometime next week if the seal can be made to work on the pad; the fuel in question is liquid hydrogen, not the easiest stuff to deal with. If not the whole caboodle will have to be moved back off the pad, and we will be looking at several weeks.  But it’s not a race and NASA have learned the safety first lesson the hard way…

Overheard on the launch pad..

"Seal? Surely you meant Walrus?

 

"Never mind, the Spandex rocket is on standby".....

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21 hours ago, ikks said:

Sorry, but off topic, does anyone know if the USA has hypersonic nukes??

Mike

 

You mean like the Trident and Minuteman that they've had for decades?

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The Boca Chica site has high bays where the vehicles are built in and run the mile or so to the launch areas,there is a huge new assembly building too in the throws of construction,

Yesterday they tested the 6 ship engine together,its all just test articals but non have been built in a field? theres daily updates on the NASA spaceflight site and live cameras on Lab Padre site,if you look at there steams you can see the build system.

 

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Did anyone else watch the live video (well, about 1 fps but considering that was a live transmission from a spacecraft that's pretty good) of DART impacting the asteroid Dimorphos last night? Impressive stuff, as was the monitoring from ground-based telescopes that can only see the pair of asteroids as a point (the size on pictures just being from the brightness), but could easily see the rapidly-expanding debris cloud.

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12 minutes ago, Reorte said:

Impressive stuff, as was the monitoring from ground-based telescopes that can only see the pair of asteroids as a point (the size on pictures just being from the brightness), but could easily see the rapidly-expanding debris cloud.

There are images from the Light Italian CubeSat for Imaging of Asteroids, (LICIACube, which was a DART payload and) drafting behind DART by 55km.

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More vanity projects for countries showing off to their rivals, when they can't even stop this planet going to pot. The idea that we can colonize other planets to any extent beyond science bases is fantasy. Hoping we can find another home for the world's population when we have screwed this one is totally unrealistic.

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3 minutes ago, phil_sutters said:

The idea that we can colonize other planets to any extent beyond science bases is fantasy.

DART is not a colonization project, but an attempt to demonstrate the potential feasibility of saving the earthly population from a future asteroid collision.

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