Accurascale Class 37 EM and P4 Wheelsets Now Available To Pre-Order

[Accurascale Fran]

Hi everyone,

 

Great news! Our EM and P4 finescale drop in wheelsets for our forthcoming Class 37s are now available to pre-order.

 

 

Priced at just £24.95 per pack of 6 wheelsets they have the correct wheel profile and prototype wheel diameter. Wheel faces will also be painted, further improving on the samples shown below.

 

 

Our wheelsets will arrive with the first batch of Class 37s to arrive (Modern Class 37/4 and Scottish Car Headlamp). These are not too far away, so keep an eye out for further updates very soon.

 

Pre-Order here: https://www.accurascale.com/collections/wheelsets? 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

[johndon]

Will these wheels fit the Deltics as well?

 

John

Edited September 14, 2022 by johndon

[McC]

19 minutes ago, johndon said:

Will these wheels fit the Deltics as well?

 

John

 

You can find Deltic sets here https://www.accurascale.com/collections/wheelsets

[Enterprisingwestern]

34 minutes ago, johndon said:

Will these wheels fit the Deltics as well?

 

John

15 minutes ago, McC said:

 

You can find Deltic sets here https://www.accurascale.com/collections/wheelsets

 

Yes according to a conversation I had on rmweb a short while ago, and the 37 wheels are the correct diameter, a first for Accurascale?!!

 

Mike.

[Accurascale Fran]

2 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

Yes according to a conversation I had on rmweb a short while ago, and the 37 wheels are the correct diameter, a first for Accurascale?!!

 

Mike.

 

I remember when you used to be funny, Mike. Must be all that sun.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

[johndon]

19 minutes ago, McC said:

 

You can find Deltic sets here https://www.accurascale.com/collections/wheelsets

I know and I have some but as the Deltic wheels are undersized, I wondered if these would be an option. 
 

[Accurascale Fran]

1 minute ago, johndon said:

I know and I have some but as the Deltic wheels are undersized, I wondered if these would be an option. 
 

 

Hi John,

 

We cant promise they will fit, will be up to the end user to experiment. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

[Islesy]

1 hour ago, Accurascale Fran said:

I remember when you used to be funny, Mike

Was he ever? Can't say I remember that instance...

[MikeParkin65]

Deleted - sorry  - wrong thread

Edited September 14, 2022 by MikeParkin65

[johndon]

3 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

Hi John,

 

We cant promise they will fit, will be up to the end user to experiment. 

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

Thanks for that, I appreciate that allowances may have to be be made for the wheels being larger but I assume that the gears are the same though? 

Edited September 14, 2022 by johndon

[Wickham Green too]

Now, the ignorant among us always believed that 37s and 55s ran on more-or-less the same bogies  -  give or take the occasional cast / fabricated difference ......

 

Anyway, without knowing the ins and outs of this wheel diameter argument - 'cos it's totally irrelevant to my 1948 interests and I've not scoured the threads - might I surmise that undersize wheels might actually be less visible than increased buffer height caused by replacing them ??!?

[johndon]

39 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said:

Anyway, without knowing the ins and outs of this wheel diameter argument - 'cos it's totally irrelevant to my 1948 interests and I've not scoured the threads - might I surmise that undersize wheels might actually be less visible than increased buffer height caused by replacing them ??!?

 

Putting the correct sized wheels in will require some ride height modifications but this has already been demonstrated over on the Scalefour society forum so I'm not concerned about having to do that.

 

 

[Enterprisingwestern]

20 hours ago, Accurascale Fran said:

 

I remember when you used to be funny, Mike. Must be all that sun.

 

Cheers!

 

Fran 

 

18 hours ago, Islesy said:

Was he ever? Can't say I remember that instance...

 

I have taken overnight consideration so as not to post a kneejerk reaction.

Accurascale doesn't understand railway modelling does it?

There are some modellers, admittedly a small minority, and admittedly some of us (me only? ) a right PITA, who wish to model to an improved level of what is available straight out of the box, (this is not to denigrate those who do accept the base product, each to their own).

We realise that in order to achieve out aims we have to put a bit of effort into our modelling and accept that, quite reasonably, manufacturers can't be expected to cater for us over and above the majority.

So therefore when a company like Accurascale comes galloping into town proclaiming that they are the "finescale" modellers answer to a maidens prayer we prick up our ears.

We then find that in actual fact they are not what they claim to be it becomes even more of a disappointment than if they had not said anything at all.

Whilst I have not, obviously, bought every variation of rolling stock, all that I have bought has been considerably harder to re-wheel than Bachmann, Hornby et al , who make no claims as to ease of conversion, but can at least get wheels and axles to what is considered in the UK to be the "standard" and of the correct diameter.

In response to the 2 quoted comments from Accurascale employees, I have broad enough shoulders to accept personal insults, but look where treating your customers with disdain got Ratners.

 

Mike.

 

[McC]

Good morning!

 

I'm very sorry you feel accurascale have been disappointing so far when it comes to promotion or providing for finesscale modellers.

 

As you know, we make great efforts to design all of our models to accommodate 'easier' conversions, and have worked and consulted with the two main societies for the alternative scales to that end. We never promised miracles, but we did commit to engagement. Ultimately the finescale modellers requirements are something we've been consulting and testing hard on, bearing in mind we are still a 4 year old. 

 

While some of our earlier wagons score a 'could have done better. for absolute ease of install, you will be happy to hear we have retooled and upgraded any such efforts to ensure 'drop in' futures for those ranges. Additionally those lessons learned have led to pretty much all new releases in the last 24 months, and all forthcoming to be so designed to accommodate. All of this represents a significant investment in time, design, tooling, testing, manufacture and packaging / shipment for what is, essentially, a very small minority niche group in the scale.

 

While the Deltic had it's necessary compromises, the 37 does not, and we -continue- setting new norms by offering 'drop in' fine scale wheel sets for our locos, at a mere £25 for a full set with free postage.

 

You will then I hope both 'give us another chance' rather than judge our entire team and efforts on a single, early experience, and equally give us the benefit of the doubt, in a sincere manner, rather than seek to mock or insult the very people trying to open up, promote and make easier to join, your chosen fine scale. 

[Accurascale Fran]

46 minutes ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

 

 

I have taken overnight consideration so as not to post a kneejerk reaction.

Accurascale doesn't understand railway modelling does it?

There are some modellers, admittedly a small minority, and admittedly some of us (me only? ) a right PITA, who wish to model to an improved level of what is available straight out of the box, (this is not to denigrate those who do accept the base product, each to their own).

We realise that in order to achieve out aims we have to put a bit of effort into our modelling and accept that, quite reasonably, manufacturers can't be expected to cater for us over and above the majority.

So therefore when a company like Accurascale comes galloping into town proclaiming that they are the "finescale" modellers answer to a maidens prayer we prick up our ears.

We then find that in actual fact they are not what they claim to be it becomes even more of a disappointment than if they had not said anything at all.

Whilst I have not, obviously, bought every variation of rolling stock, all that I have bought has been considerably harder to re-wheel than Bachmann, Hornby et al , who make no claims as to ease of conversion, but can at least get wheels and axles to what is considered in the UK to be the "standard" and of the correct diameter.

In response to the 2 quoted comments from Accurascale employees, I have broad enough shoulders to accept personal insults, but look where treating your customers with disdain got Ratners.

 

Mike.

 

Hi Mike,

 

Firstly, I’m sorry that you took my attempt at humour the wrong way. It was meant in a similar spirit to the quips you have made towards us (Accurascale) in recent times, so I thought it would be something you would be okay with (and get a laugh out of. We have tried to be open and ‘human’ on the forum but I see that my engagement in some light hearted banter (and @Islesy too) can be taken incorrectly. Apologies.

 

As for your statement on our approach to the finescale area of the hobby we do (and have) held our hands up to errors in this area in the past and have tried to do better. This is something that will become evident in the near future and we do our best to go above and beyond with announcements such as the one in this thread. Not many manufacturers actively try to make products such as these wheels to aid EM and P4 modellers and lord knows it’s something we put a lot of time and capital into but make no money on in return as the demand is negligible. There’s a reason why other companies don’t bother, but we try go that extra yard to help and we’ve learnt a lot. At the end of the day we’d rather work together to get it right (and I have personally reached out to you about it in the past) than fall out with anyone.

 

So, once again sincerest apologies for the joke, and all the best. I’ll keep any attempts at humour to myself from now on. You did hit the “agree” reaction to my post though. 🙂

 

Cheers!

 

Fran

[black and decker boy]

Your drop in wheelsets are very much welcome by this finescale modeller. Other after market offerings no longer offer drop in conversions of contemporary loco products meaning a lot more work to be done, time & skills for which I lack.

 

as for your range in general, keep it coming

[johndon]

3 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

Whilst I have not, obviously, bought every variation of rolling stock, all that I have bought has been considerably harder to re-wheel than Bachmann, Hornby et al , who make no claims as to ease of conversion, but can at least get wheels and axles to what is considered in the UK to be the "standard" and of the correct diameter.

 

Whilst my experience of Accurascale wagons is limited to the PTAs (nothing else they've done so far is suitable for my modelling interests), I can say that the P4 conversion for those involved nothing more than a couple of swipes with a file per bearing and drop the new wheels in, 9 wagons in less than 30 minutes...

[Porcy Mane]

3 hours ago, Enterprisingwestern said:

a right PITA

 

Hello.

[rhnrhn]

Will the Class 37 Drop in Wheel Sets be available on the Irish Models / (redirected from Accurascale.eu) website? Currently I can't find them.

 

I've tried to order using my accurascale.co.uk account but when it comes to speciifying my address, I am unable to because the drop down doesn't include Germany :-(

 

Regards

Richard

[McC]

58 minutes ago, rhnrhn said:

Will the Class 37 Drop in Wheel Sets be available on the Irish Models / (redirected from Accurascale.eu) website? Currently I can't find them.

 

I've tried to order using my accurascale.co.uk account but when it comes to speciifying my address, I am unable to because the drop down doesn't include Germany :-(

 

Regards

Richard

 

They will shortly yes.

 

 

https://irishrailwaymodels.com/collections/accessories/accessory-type_wheels-bogies?sort_by=created-descending

Edited October 10, 2022 by McC

[rhnrhn]

Fantastic! Thanks for sorting this so quickly, 2 sets duly ordered!