Grovenor Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 hours ago, HSB said: From those pictures appears to be 00 rather than H0! There is one of each in the photos to show the difference. 🤨 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 4 hours ago, HSB said: From those pictures appears to be 00 rather than H0! Fred, If you right click and use google translate (or the drop down menu on a tablet) you can translate to English. Thilo gives a good explanation of which locos he is using to illustrate the relative differences between OO and HO and their merits when next to the coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 In that post the first small pic shows an H0 BR01 next to the H0 Märklin Scotsman. The second pic shows the H0 01 next to an 00 Scotman. I must admit the first time I looked I missed the small pic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sncf231e Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 hours ago, ellocoloco said: Fred, If you right click and use google translate (or the drop down menu on a tablet) you can translate to English. Thilo gives a good explanation of which locos he is using to illustrate the relative differences between OO and HO and their merits when next to the coaches. I think you reaction was for Howard. Being Dutch I do not need Google translate to translate German. Gruss Fred 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2023 I have put my Trix Scotsman alongside my Hornby models so the size difference can be viewed. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Jim at Hovermotion Towers has a short clip up showing the Trix version pulling 9 Fleichmann Ho Mk1 coaches 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
669cpb Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Bigskybirds said: I have put my Trix Scotsman alongside my Hornby models so the size difference can be viewed. Any chance you could show what the Trix Scotsman looks like pulling OO coaches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, 669cpb said: Any chance you could show what the Trix Scotsman looks like pulling OO coaches? I will try to do a short video tomorrow with some Hornby Pullman or LNER teaks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) It really looks a bit 'off'. I was expecting given the almost 20 years that have elapsed between the fundamental design of the Hornby model and this HO equivalent, that the later model would have finesse of the 2020s, but between the shape of the cab (too stubby?), chimney (too tall?), the pivoting pony, and infill at the bottom of the boiler, the Hornby model is still the better one running on 16mm track! the HO valve gear is nice though, especially the return crank fixing Edited November 14, 2023 by G-BOAF 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: It really looks a bit 'off'. I was expecting given the almost 20 years that have elapsed between the fundamental design of the Hornby model and this HO equivalent, that the later model would have finesse of the 2020s, but between the shape of the cab (too stubby?), chimney (too tall?), the pivoting pony, and infill at the bottom of the boiler, the Hornby model is still the better one running on 16mm track! the HO valve gear is nice though, especially the return crank fixing Being a collector I am prepared to accept it is far from perfect, all have their shortcomings but the drive mechanism of the Trix is superb. I was expecting it to be heavier than it turned out. The main issue for me is the chimney is a little too tall but I can live with that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
669cpb Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, Bigskybirds said: I will try to do a short video tomorrow with some Hornby Pullman or LNER teaks. That would be perfect, many thanks. Thinking of getting the Trix Scotsman but only have OO coaches so not sure how it would look and don’t really want to buy any other coaches as already have Hornby Pullman and LNER teaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, G-BOAF said: It really looks a bit 'off'. I was expecting given the almost 20 years that have elapsed between the fundamental design of the Hornby model and this HO equivalent, that the later model would have finesse of the 2020s, but between the shape of the cab (too stubby?), chimney (too tall?), the pivoting pony, and infill at the bottom of the boiler, the Hornby model is still the better one running on 16mm track! the HO valve gear is nice though, especially the return crank fixing I think it's the Hornby that is a bit out. P4 scale track gauge of 18.83 mm would sort it out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, 669cpb said: That would be perfect, many thanks. Thinking of getting the Trix Scotsman but only have OO coaches so not sure how it would look and don’t really want to buy any other coaches as already have Hornby Pullman and LNER teaks. Not a good look, like a car pulling a caravan. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbb Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Looks dreadful; clunky wheels , dodgy chimney, odd shade of green, and undersized cab numerals. A rich collectors delight though, maybe like the Marklin warship of the 70s (?) , afflicted by similar problems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 14, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulbb said: Looks dreadful; clunky wheels , dodgy chimney, odd shade of green, and undersized cab numerals. A rich collectors delight though, maybe like the Marklin warship of the 70s (?) , afflicted by similar problems I am not that rich! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
669cpb Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, Bigskybirds said: Not a good look, like a car pulling a caravan. Thanks for doing the video. Agree with car pulling a caravan look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, paulbb said: Looks dreadful; clunky wheels , dodgy chimney, odd shade of green, and undersized cab numerals. A rich collectors delight though, maybe like the Marklin warship of the 70s (?) , afflicted by similar problems It's just regular Marklin-Trix pricing for a medium large steam loco not a collectors piece as such. 445 euros is the cheapest dealer price I've seen. The equivalent would be the metal bodied Hornby Dublo but that doesn't appear to have a metal tender or metal driving wheel spokes. How much would the current Dublo be with lights, smoke and sound? Edited November 15, 2023 by maico 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted November 16, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 16, 2023 Prices really need to be compared on a like-like basis, either SRP-SRP or typical selling price. Although, Hornby Dublo models don't seem to be discounted that much as they don't need to be to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) On 16/11/2023 at 09:48, jjb1970 said: Prices really need to be compared on a like-like basis, either SRP-SRP or typical selling price. Although, Hornby Dublo models don't seem to be discounted that much as they don't need to be to sell. The RRP on the Trix website is 589 euro (£515) although it sold out on pre-order at the factory some time back as did the Marklin version. https://www.trix.de/de/produkte/details/article/22886 Some Dublo models have been discounted on eBay by dealers the A3 being one of them. The Scotsman market must be saturated by now! Edited November 17, 2023 by maico 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maico Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) I think this might be the shade of green Marklin Trix have used. Being finished in satin on the model not gloss will darken it a touch https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OOlVijPBRC4 Edited November 18, 2023 by maico Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 Picked up mine yesterday. What a model. It looks and runs superbly and is up there with Roco 310.23 in terms of finish. Alongside my repainted ESU 66, these two are a couple of diecast beasts. As these were sold out relatively quickly on the Mrklin/Trix webshop, my fingers are crossed that British HO has been good enough for them to offer something else! My pictures do not do either of them justice. 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonkatoy Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 23/11/2023 at 11:44, ellocoloco said: Picked up mine yesterday. What a model. It looks and runs superbly and is up there with Roco 310.23 in terms of finish. Alongside my repainted ESU 66, these two are a couple of diecast beasts. As these were sold out relatively quickly on the Mrklin/Trix webshop, my fingers are crossed that British HO has been good enough for them to offer something else! My pictures do not do either of them justice. It’s this kind of post that ruins RMweb’s reputation, with someone ACTUALLY liking a model and enjoying it for what it is, not slagging it off for minor imperfections. I’m sure it will run superbly, the reason I switched to continental HO all those years ago. I’ll park mine next to my Trix Big Boy and giggle with wonder at being able to finally truly compare the difference in size between them. And I’ll run it with a nice rake of Orient Express coaches from Rivarossi. Enjoy! 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellocoloco Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 8 hours ago, tonkatoy said: Enjoy! Thank you. Enjoyment is what its all about. I too went to Continental HO many years ago once I could buy my own trains rather than waiting for Christmas or Birthdays. The difference was unbelievable at the time. Once I found out OO and HO weren't actually the same the die was cast. Unless any suitable coaches come out RTR, my Scottie will take my Rhinegold set although I do have two Sachsenmodelle Eastern European sleeper sets which are almost a matching shade of green! I have a side interest in British HO with three repainted 66s. My main interest is Spanish HO but lets not talk about the (broad) gauge! My Scottie can make itself useful with some Cargowaggons in the meantime. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Today was the first time I've seen it in person and it looked alright, the only real complaint I have is the cabside number which still looks off to me. But its a start for British HO RTR at least. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bigskybirds Posted November 26, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2023 Side by side comparison with Big Boy 5 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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