RMweb Premium JimFin Posted February 15 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15 Might have time to fit a decoder before going to Model Rail Scotland. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted February 15 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 15 Purchased from e bay recently. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 13 hours ago, JimFin said: Might have time to fit a decoder before going to Model Rail Scotland. Hi Jim - when you get to M.R.S. raise a glass to my late Mum and Dad, despite not being active railway modellers they used to visit the show. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium JimFin Posted February 16 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, Gordonwis said: Hi Jim - when you get to M.R.S. raise a glass to my late Mum and Dad, despite not being active railway modellers they used to visit the show. :-) Wiil do Gordon, go back far enough and they would have met my dad exhibiting when it was in the McLellan galleries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) 1:150 RhB Za tanker Comes from a German artisan as a bare body, so this is my painting (grey primer for the moment as I intend to make this one have 'workstain brown' over the light grey) . Added transfers from RhB Modellbahn - originally intended for the latter's 3D printed Za which is not nearly as good as these new ones. Edited March 2 by Gordonwis 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelE Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 The third Loksound 5 in less than three years is arriving for my Allegra ABe 8/12 in a few days . I hope this one lasts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 This is technically Italian stock … but very definitely for a Swiss layout - so only partial apologies. I’ve picked up a trio of Fleischmann UIC carriages in FS liver and grey livery. Now I know they’re less accurate than ideal, particularly around the roof, but the scarcity of vehicles in that livery and the mix and match nature of stock during the era I’m modelling still made a purchase fairly desirable. I also knew in advance that the Fleischmann UIC stock rides high - but I don’t think I was quite prepared for how high! In reality the cant rail of the FS UIC is higher than the SBB equivalent on the right. But not that much higher. Has anyone successfully lowered the overall ride height of a Fleischmann UIC? Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 10 hours ago, MOB 2002 said: Has anyone successfully lowered the overall ride height of a Fleischmann UIC? Mark No, I just got rid of most of mine where possible! I favour Minitrix and even old Lima and Atlas Rivarossi for DB style UICs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, Gordonwis said: No, I just got rid of most of mine where possible! I favour Minitrix and even old Lima and Atlas Rivarossi for DB style UICs. Part of the problem seems to be the size of the wheels. They look enormous. I might gamble on some small diameter wheelsets before I write the job off completely as a lesson learned. Mark Edited March 10 by MOB 2002 Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Frutigen Posted March 10 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10 20 hours ago, MOB 2002 said: Has anyone successfully lowered the overall ride height of a Fleischmann UIC? Not with Fleischmann but I did it with an Eriam coach with a combination of smaller wheels and filing away some of the depth of the bosses where the bogies fit into the chassis. I don’t know if the Fleischmann design would allow something like that. Finding wheels where the axle length fits your bogie seems to be a lottery these days, and when you succeed you next have to deal with a coupling that rides too low. I think Flanders & Swan had a song about that. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 The bogies also look too tall, as well as being spaced too far from the underside of the carbody. Can you get some alternative bogies that could be swapped in, hopefully solving the wheelset problem at the same time? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 31 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: The bogies also look too tall, as well as being spaced too far from the underside of the carbody. Can you get some alternative bogies that could be swapped in, hopefully solving the wheelset problem at the same time? In a word … yes: It turns out that Rivarossi bogies clip straight in and what a difference they make! Buffer heights now line up and the overall height is much more acceptable. I’ll need to take the razor saw to them to lose the moulded in steps and coupling pocket, but that looks doable. Just trying to source some more now as I don’t want to destroy the FS sleeper I’ve borrowed this one off to test the concept. Thanks so much for the suggestion - I guess I didn’t expect the solution to be that easy! Now to decide whether I try to tackle the roofs. Mark 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreux_1991 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 09/03/2024 at 13:22, MOB 2002 said: This is technically Italian stock … but very definitely for a Swiss layout - so only partial apologies. I’ve picked up a trio of Fleischmann UIC carriages in FS liver and grey livery. Now I know they’re less accurate than ideal, particularly around the roof, but the scarcity of vehicles in that livery and the mix and match nature of stock during the era I’m modelling still made a purchase fairly desirable. I also knew in advance that the Fleischmann UIC stock rides high - but I don’t think I was quite prepared for how high! In reality the cant rail of the FS UIC is higher than the SBB equivalent on the right. But not that much higher. Has anyone successfully lowered the overall ride height of a Fleischmann UIC? Mark From memory - having bought and rejected the older Fleischmann UIC-X a couple of years ago - most of the excess height was due to (1) overall height of the bogies above the wheel bearings and (2) height of the lower body framing, which is painted dark grey in the photos above. And what's your source for the difference in cant rail height? I'd assume the contrary, that UIC-X coaches and their Swiss cousins would be very similar in their use of the loading gauge, and most differences between models are due to one manufacturer (or both) getting it wrong. Fleischmann know they got this wrong: the 'Neukonstruktion 2020' UIC-X coaches are marketed as having prototypically correct buffer height. Buffer and body height both compare favourably to my preferred reference, the Roco Eurofima: Comparing to your reference: The 'Neukonstruction 2020' model has been announced in FS grey (863960/1/2) but the release date has now slipped to 2025. For liver red and grey the 'modern' options with flush glazing are Arnold, ACME and Minitrix, but all have their issues... Arnold - too short, including the window openings which are only 5.5mm tall. My examples of HN4317 were also banana-shaped. The photo below shows HN 4265-3 but it's the same moulding: ACME - quite pretty in photos (although I think they went too far the other way with 6.25mm tall window openings) but the body mouldings are too thin to hold their shape and they also wobble and lean on their bogies: Minitrix - too tall, but it's all in the bogies so I've stockpiled some dark grey bogies from Roco 24264 donor carriages. Also Minitrix only produced the 11-compartment couchette moulding in this livery, even though one of the models is supposed to be a composite: All very frustrating! If you're interested, prototype notes and a comprehensive (2013, pre-ACME) review of N gauge models can be found and translated here: Carrozze UIC-X – parte terza: le sei serie italiane originali | scalaeNNe - Note Sparse (Treni, Ferrovie e loro modellazione in Scala N) (wordpress.com) 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Agreed wholeheartedly- it is very frustrating that every possible version seems to have at least one error! My cant rail observations are merely from photos on the likes of Polier.ch, although even ScalaeNNe has a comparison photo showing that various nations got their cant rail treatment completely different. As far as I can tell actual uniformity only arrived at the UIC Z family. My donor bogies are on the way and I’ve worked out how to dismantle the Fleischmann roof so all being well I’ll get something passable in the end. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 A big parcel has arrived from Schnellenkamp in Germany containing my birthday presents to myself. Despite their origin they are for the Swiss theme. Three Om turnouts, two more Om rollwagen, and two O standard gauge vans suitable for the Broc branch. Also, not shown, an Om rolling road. I’m sure all of these will feature on the Broc branch thread in due course. First to be used will be one of the turnouts so I can finish the fiddle yard tracklaying. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, Mol_PMB said: A big parcel has arrived from Schnellenkamp in Germany containing my birthday presents to myself. Despite their origin they are for the Swiss theme. Three Om turnouts, two more Om rollwagen, and two O standard gauge vans suitable for the Broc branch. Also, not shown, an Om rolling road. I’m sure all of these will feature on the Broc branch thread in due course. First to be used will be one of the turnouts so I can finish the fiddle yard tracklaying. Do you still consider your project ‘stalled’? Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mol_PMB Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, MOB 2002 said: Do you still consider your project ‘stalled’? Mark Good question! Perhaps I will edit the title next time I add a post. Is there a technical term for awaking after hibernation? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) HO scale TeII from the collection of the late Ian Thomson being sold today on the French Railways Society stand at Ally Pally. Some parts need refitting but great stuff for £45 when it is my secondary scale Edited March 16 by Gordonwis 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordonwis Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 (edited) One each of 1st and 2nd class 'new' 2020 livery N gauge Fleischmann EW4 from Scograil at Ally Pally today Edited March 16 by Gordonwis 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 16/03/2024 at 22:12, Gordonwis said: One each of 1st and 2nd class 'new' 2020 livery N gauge Fleischmann EW4 from Scograil at Ally Pally today They look nice Gordon. I always find the team at Scograil very helpful. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Morning all, Received this lovely TGV Lyria set yesterday. I’ve been after one of these for a while so finally bit the bullet and bought one. Haven’t had a chance to run it yet. Best regards, Jeremy 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB1 Posted April 6 Author Share Posted April 6 (edited) 7 hours ago, cornish trains jez said: Morning all, Received this lovely TGV Lyria set yesterday. I’ve been after one of these for a while so finally bit the bullet and bought one. Haven’t had a chance to run it yet. Best regards, Jeremy Nice one Jeremy, and perfect for your layout! I picked up one of these about a year ago and it performs as well as it looks. Plenty of oomph in the powered unit. Looking forward to seeing it bomb around Gelternau! Andrew Edited April 6 by SBB1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOB 2002 Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 A real bargain just arrived today. Hobbytrain Re4/4 II of the first batch in green. There’s a 2021 date written on the box, but it looks like it’s never been used and ran well straight from the box. Even the most discounted price I’ve seen for a ‘new’ one was in the region of £120. This one, £50! And I thought the days of the eBay steal were long gone. Mark 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samedan Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 On 06/04/2024 at 09:20, cornish trains jez said: Morning all, Received this lovely TGV Lyria set yesterday. I’ve been after one of these for a while so finally bit the bullet and bought one. Haven’t had a chance to run it yet. Best regards, Jeremy Looks good. But try fitting one of those on an HO layout! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 10 hours ago, Samedan said: Looks good. But try fitting one of those on an HO layout! The beauty with Swiss N! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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