Wickham Green too Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, TheSignalEngineer said: Looks like a Period 2 coach, two window style "Period 1" - but it appears to be steel sheeted ! ..... and I don't think it's an 'all steel' type as it has conventional underframe trussing ! Unfortunately it disappeared before Platform 5's Departmental Coaching Stock books came along. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: "Period 1" - but it appears to be steel sheeted ! ..... and I don't think it's an 'all steel' type as it has conventional underframe trussing ! Unfortunately it disappeared before Platform 5's Departmental Coaching Stock books came along. Simply looking up in Longworth saves the speculation. 395228 - 7627 a LMS MR diag 175 Hughes vestibule third - so 1st period. Built in 1923 and converted August 1957. This batch of coaches appears to have been very popular for conversion to various departmental uses. Withdrawn in 1979. 395227 was a similar conversion and written as Car 5A. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsdepartmentalcoach/e78075444 I've no idea how I missed 5B at the open day in August 1978. Paul Edited July 19, 2023 by hmrspaul 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 Western Region Internal User, Civil Engineers Coach W071343, Newport Docks 1982 by Martyn Hilbert 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 "An NER Parcels Van dating from 1919 converted to an Engineers' Coach at Cymmer Afon, 03/69" bu Hugh Llewelyn 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) On 20/07/2023 at 17:56, montyburns56 said: Western Region Internal User, Civil Engineers Coach W071343, Newport Docks 1982 by Martyn Hilbert From the other end. https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/internal07xxxxdocks/e30fd20a7 and earlier https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/internal07xxxxdocks/e3190d4cf Despite being described as unique only the frame appears to have survived in conservation http://www.cs.rhrp.org.uk/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=208 https://www.departmentals.com/departmental/071343 Paul Edited July 21, 2023 by hmrspaul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 22, 2023 Author Share Posted July 22, 2023 Colchester Breakdown train, ADB9770444 1981 Jamerail 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted July 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, montyburns56 said: Colchester Breakdown train, ADB9770444 1981 Jamerail What is with the coach/van on the left? The body seems to be shorter than the frame it is sitting on.. And as for that thing on the right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 22, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Many breakdown coaches had a 'platform' at one end, often with a girder protruding at roof height. Possibly used as a beam to hang tackle off. The one on the right looks like a steam-heat boiler van. Edited July 22, 2023 by keefer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 hours ago, keefer said: ... The one on the right looks like a steam-heat boiler van. One of those built on Plate wagon chassis ............. unless it's one of those on 12T mineral wagon chassis - gone astray from the Southern. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 4 hours ago, keefer said: Many breakdown coaches had a 'platform' at one end, often with a girder protruding at roof height. Possibly used as a beam to hang tackle off. The one on the right looks like a steam-heat boiler van. Colchester had ADE 321074 Steam Heating Boiler van https://www.departmentals.com/departmental/321074 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 21 hours ago, John M Upton said: What is with the coach/van on the left? The body seems to be shorter than the frame it is sitting on.. And as for that thing on the right.... There's a better picture of it here by Adrian Nicholls "This former East Coast Mainline Joint Stock Vehicle was a Sleeper First Class numbered E 1174E and was built at the NER York Works in 1923 to diagram 64B. Its department career started when it was converted and renumbered in 1960 for use as a BTU (Breakdown Train Unit). In 1957 British Rail Eastern Region adopted the DE320xxx number series for such vehicles and it spent many years allocated to Colchester Depot before withdrawal and the vehicle has since been scrapped." 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 "The unique and experimental "Booth Car" M1106 built by Charles Roberts (Wakefield) onto the chassis of Mk1 RK 80020 in 1968 and pictured in original condition before refurbishment prior to its brief transfer to Scotland in 1972" 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 Medical Coach DE 320614 Cambridge 1969 by Tom Burnham 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 SC3726M Old Carriage (end) on the Cock Bridge road by David Christie 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 SC3726M was still there in March '84 - rather more patched up and may not have lasted a lot longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, montyburns56 said: SC3726M Old Carriage (end) on the Cock Bridge road by David Christie Is that the old A939 Cock Bridge to Tomintoul road? It's nice to see it in summer time. Not, as Terry Wogan used to so fondly report, in winter time. With the snow gates closed, and wee Mrs Mackay the silver-haired postmistress valiantly blazing a path through the snow with her silver-handled shovel. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 OK - you can have it in the snow if you insist : - .... and my mate's car in the snow on the A939 Lecht Road a little later ! 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: OK - you can have it in the snow if you insist : - .... and my mate's car in the snow on the A939 Lecht Road a little later ! I sent you a pile of snow. Did you get my Drift? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 Former South Eastern & Chatham Railway 'Birdcage' 3rd brake carriage on a siding at Porthmadog 1962 by trainsandtravel 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Great Yarmouth 1976 by Kevin McGowan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 There can't have been many other LMS full brakes retaining gangways that late ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted July 28, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2023 Presumably it had sat there for years, unmodified, while the other examples in everyday use got blue livery and had gangways removed. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 23 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: There can't have been many other LMS full brakes retaining gangways that late ! Judging from the livery it had probably been sat there since the 60s. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 "LNWR semi-compartment bogie carriage at Verney Junction." 1963 by Trainsandtravel 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted July 28, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 26/07/2023 at 17:56, montyburns56 said: Former South Eastern & Chatham Railway 'Birdcage' 3rd brake carriage on a siding at Porthmadog 1962 by trainsandtravel Excellent, I've been looking for a picture of that. Nobody believed me when I said that an S&T gang on loan to us from Oswestry District turned up at Saltley in 1967 with a Birdcage Brake for their gang van. It looks like the same one. And is that an Iron Mink in BR Grey in the background? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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