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Formed into a cross country express and standing in platform 1 at Derby is unique Bar/Buffet E1883, 23rd August 1980.

Vehicle History

E1883 is a one off vehicle built at the Derby Carriage works in 1968 to lot 30784 and utilised the underframe of Kitchen Car 80021. Basically a Mark I vehicle it was built at a time when Mark II vehicle production was in full swing and has a strange appearance with its window style resembling more the Mark IId-e air conditioned vehicles introduced in 1971. E1883 is not actually air conditioned but is dual heat pressure ventilated. It had a short service life being withdrawn in 1981 however following withdrawal it was sold for preservation and has spent time on the Severn Valley Railway although currently it can be found on the Weardale Railway. 

E1883 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/8314582286/

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Stabled in the reception sidings of Derby Litchurch Lane Carriage works is London Midland and Scottish Railway bogie brake M31024, 25th June 1977. It was built at Wolverton to lot 1198 in 1939 and is a Period III standard 50ft full brake to diagram D2007. It was originally built with gangways but these have been removed. Whilst these vehicles were still fairly common in 1977 (there being three hundred and ninety one still in service at the end of 1977) it was unusual to see one in blue and grey livery.

M31024 – http://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5890753494/

 

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Conversions from Period 1 coaches that had been requisitioned as Ambulance cars. Rebuilt as BGs 1946-9 to diagrams D2129 & D2130. A large number had originally been Third Opens, but quite a few had been Brake Thirds or Composites. Not surprisingly there were a lot of detail variations! All were scrapped by the end of 1967 (ref: LMS Coaches).

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The oldest vehicle in the 1977 Royal Train was London and North Western Railway Special Saloon 45000 and it is seen here at Derby on the 28th July 1977. This saloon was originally built in 1920 for use by the Chairman of the London and North Western Railway and subsequently passed into ownership of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway in 1923, where it was used by the Chairman Josiah Stamp. During its service history it has been used regularly by members of the Royal family including King Edward VIII, HM Queen Elizabeth, HRH The Duke of Edinburgh and HRH The Prince of Wales. It has also been used by VIP’s such as Sir Winston Churchill, who used it during his election campaign of 1951. It was regularly used as part of the Royal Train fleet from around 1948 and as can be seen has been given modern running gear (Mark I underframe, B4 bogies, air brakes etc) for use in the 1977 Royal Train. It provided a lounge area, two bedrooms (for Royal Protection staff), dining and office facilities, kitchen, bathroom and an attendant’s compartment. It was withdrawn in 1990 and is currently (May 2011) preserved at the Midland Railway Centre.

45000 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/5735449541/

 

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On 04/07/2023 at 17:12, montyburns56 said:

There once was a 6 wheeler in green

Whose presence was not often seen

It was turned from a seater into a sleeper

By building it for the track team

 

Limerick

 

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It seems that there was more than one.

 

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Track recording coach DM395223 standing in the carriage sidings at Cricklewood on the 29th April 1978.

Vehicle History

DM395223 was built by the London Midland and Scottish Railway as a full kitchen car to diagram 1697. It was one of a batch of eight kitchen cars built to lot 65 at Derby in 1924 and was originally numbered 3286 and renumbered 30005 in 1932.. In total seventy three diagram 1697 vehicles were built between 1924 and 1928. It was converted to its departmental role in 1956 and withdrawn in the early 1980’s. It is currently preserved at Peak Rail, Rowsley.

DM395233 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/44332084154/

 

 

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On 09/07/2023 at 09:24, johnw1 said:

Track recording coach DM395223 standing in the carriage sidings at Cricklewood on the 29th April 1978.

Vehicle History

DM395223 was built by the London Midland and Scottish Railway as a full kitchen car to diagram 1697. It was one of a batch of eight kitchen cars built to lot 65 at Derby in 1924 and was originally numbered 3286 and renumbered 30005 in 1932.. In total seventy three diagram 1697 vehicles were built between 1924 and 1928. It was converted to its departmental role in 1956 and withdrawn in the early 1980’s. It is currently preserved at Peak Rail, Rowsley.

DM395233 – https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-john/44332084154/

 

 

and this is it in steam days https://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/lmsdepartmentalcoach/e789784d8

 

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