RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted July 7, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2010 A recent purchase from that auction site has included a few uncaptioned slides....does anyone have a clue where these might be 50039 Implacable with a short train of Mk1's. Plymouth North Road Many thanks. Deicer 015 but where is the shed? Effingham Jct? Durnsford Road sheds, replaced in 1974 by the new Wimbledon depot 'The Long thin drag' railtour at Leicester? Leeds TIA Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Well your 50's at Plymouth North Road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted July 7, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 7, 2010 The Class 50 is at Plymouth, can't help with the emu shed, and I don't think that the bottom one is Leicester (the signals are wrong for Leicester) but I can't offer an alternative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Agreed it's Rue Nord but a down service on platform 7? Or did it push the train from Penzance? Wally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Agreed it's Rue Nord but a down service on platform 7? Or did it push the train from Penzance? Wally Seeing as it's one of the Penzance - Plymouth local rakes from about 1987 I'd say the loco has merely run round. All the through platforms are bi-directional anyway so it doesn't matter which one they use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 .... and I don't think that the bottom one is Leicester (the signals are wrong for Leicester) but I can't offer an alternative. I'm struggling with that one, looks like the fourth coach might be on a bridge or underpass span. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Definitely not Leicester, the canopy looks about right but there are no through roads there. Looking at the itinerary on six bells junction there aren't many places it could be. Maybe Leeds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 The SR shed is Effingham Junction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 Definitely not Leicester, the canopy looks about right but there are no through roads there. Looking at the itinerary on six bells junction there aren't many places it could be. Maybe Leeds? East end of Leeds, as the tour had a long break there while the train went off to Neville Hill for refuelling. Here's two of my shots in roughly the same location: The tour about to head off to refuel a DMU just after that, showing the same style gantries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted July 8, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 8, 2010 Thanks very much for that Leeds was my second choice should have remembered there were no through roads at Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 8, 2010 Share Posted July 8, 2010 The SR shed is Effingham Junction. No it isn't. I have checked the photo of the Effingham Junction shed in the Middleton Press book and it looks completely different. It is more likely to be somewhere such as Selhurst, the old Durnsford Road Wimbledon sheds or Strawberry Hill, but I can't find a photo to confirm at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R A Watson Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Just had another look at the Plymouth shot, and if you look closely there is a lamp in the six foot which was probably the tail lamp, so running round is most likely taking place with the loco just coupling up. Wally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 9, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2010 No it isn't. I have checked the photo of the Effingham Junction shed in the Middleton Press book and it looks completely different. It is more likely to be somewhere such as Selhurst, the old Durnsford Road Wimbledon sheds or Strawberry Hill, but I can't find a photo to confirm at present. Fairly sure it is not Selhurst. Vaguely possible that it is Shoreham but I would think more likely to be up in the suburbs. 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Pic. No.2- Farnham (The Sand Pit) ?. Fairly sure Shoreham never had an EMU shed. The nearest being West Worthing or Brighton, and it's neither of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 10, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 10, 2010 Pic. No.2- Farnham (The Sand Pit) ?. Fairly sure Shoreham never had an EMU shed. The nearest being West Worthing or Brighton, and it's neither of those. Absolutely right. Apologies I meant Littlehampton!! It's my age I'm afraid! 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The EMUs are in the old Durnsford Road sheds, replaced in 1974 by the new Wimbledon depot. They are in the shed on the extreme left looking from the main line. This was accessed via a sharp curve. Most photos showing the depot were taken from the Durnsford Road bridge over the main line and do not show this shed. However, the edge of it is visible in plate 30 of Diesels and Electrics on Shed Vol 5 Southern Region (OPC) and the bomb-damaged sheds are shown on page 39 of the Ian Allan book 'This is Waterloo' published in 1981. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The EMUs are in the old Durnsford Road sheds, replaced in 1974 by the new Wimbledon depot. They are in the shed on the extreme left looking from the main line. This was accessed via a sharp curve. Most photos showing the depot were taken from the Durnsford Road bridge over the main line and do not show this shed. However, the edge of it is visible in plate 30 of Diesels and Electrics on Shed Vol 5 Southern Region (OPC) and the bomb-damaged sheds are shown on page 39 of the Ian Allan book 'This is Waterloo' published in 1981. Hmmm..... Looking at available, pre - 1974 pics at hand. The extreme Durnsford Road, LH Shed was a 3 Road shed, as was it's nieghbouring RH shed, which was set further back. Unlike the 4 road shed in the pic, both the Durnsford Road sheds had prominent front columns / supports, with thicker side walls. Im not convinced. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Hmmm..... Looking at available, pre - 1974 pics at hand. The extreme Durnsford Road, LH Shed was a 3 Road shed, as was it's nieghbouring RH shed, which was set further back. Unlike the 4 road shed in the pic, both the Durnsford Road sheds had prominent front columns / supports, with thicker side walls. Im not convinced. Regards You are not looking at the shed on the extreme left. There was another 4-road shed to the left of the two three-road ones with the columns between the roads. The left-hand 4-road one also had a slightly lower roof. This 4-road shed does not appear on most photos. Try looking at page 39 in 'This is Waterloo' and you will see what I mean. The edge of the shed appears in the Diesels and Electrics on Shed photo I referred to in my previous post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Thanks Robertcwp, I should have paid more attention. I'll have to delve deeper. I'm sure I've got a pic of Farnham (entrance to) shed, somewhere ??. Maybe another one of Durnsford Road ?? Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Thanks Robertcwp, I should have paid more attention. I'll have to delve deeper. I'm sure I've got a pic of Farnham (entrance to) shed, somewhere ??. Maybe another one of Durnsford Road ?? Regards. Farnham is a 5-road shed. A good photo appears in the Middleton Press book Woking to Alton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 On that de-icer, my 1977 Ian Allan EMU book has 015 and 019 with a pencil note allocated to Wimbledon, and the 1978 book has a pic of 019 outside what appears to be the same shed as the photo. Which all supports Robert's post. The pencil allocation notes were 011 BI, 012 FR, 013 SU, 014 GI, 015 WD, 016 GI, 017 BI, 018 SU, 019 WD, 020 BI. By the 78 book, 012, 017, 019 had been withdrawn as the newer ones numbered 004-006 came into service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 The Durnsford Road EMU depot of 1915 originally comprised a 6-road maintenance shed and a 9-road inspection shed. A carriage cleaning shed was added in 1917 on the site of sidings. I think this is the shed in the photo. The whole lot disappeared in the 1970s when the new depot was built. The numbering fits this as a photo in another book shows the left-hand inspection roads numbered 11, 12 and 13. If the maintenance roads were 5-10, then 1-4 would be the carriage cleaning shed, looking from left to right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted July 11, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2010 Many thanks for that so the latest we can date this is 1974 but probably earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 The Durnsford Road EMU depot of 1915 originally comprised a 6-road maintenance shed and a 9-road inspection shed. A carriage cleaning shed was added in 1917 on the site of sidings. I think this is the shed in the photo. The whole lot disappeared in the 1970s when the new depot was built. The numbering fits this as a photo in another book shows the left-hand inspection roads numbered 11, 12 and 13. If the maintenance roads were 5-10, then 1-4 would be the carriage cleaning shed, looking from left to right. To correct this slightly. The cleaning shed was added in the 1930s, not 1917. The maintenance sheds and part of the inspection shed were also extended towards the main line. I think this might have been linked with the Portsmouth electrification. The best photos are in the Middleton Press book Lines Around Wimbledon (which I forgot I had), including an aerial shot taken prior to construction of the cleaning shed and a shot from 1973 which confirms the location beyond doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I stand corrected and convinced. Thanks robertcwp. Indeed , G.A. Pryer's 'Track Layout Diagrams of the S.R.' show Farnham as a five road shed, as from 5/37. I mis-read the Google Earth view as showing it with four. In the Waterloo area 'Track Layout Diagrams' it shows the Durnsford Road carriage shed as being six roads (2x3), and the EMU depot having fifteen (5x3). Apologies for my confusion. Regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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