Hornby 2024 range announcements

[Oldddudders]

23 minutes ago, 34theletterbetweenB&D said:

That might make a few hearts skip a beat, but it's a 9F masquerading as Black Prince, and the ER Brit is the decidedly less interesting Lord Hurcomb. 

There is clearly demand for preservation-era models, and 92203 fits right in. Hornby has made plenty of other examples of preserved versions of locos - not least Bulleid pacifics in malachite but with reduced boiler-pressure etc - so has a good idea these sell. 

[The Black Hat]

Personally I think this is a very strategic and sensible range from Hornby this year. The choices of models and the levels in the range point to a balanced range to cater for a lot of interest and where it is popular. Locomotion No. 1 surely must have been expected in the run into 2025 and after the success of Rocket. Better it should be here now, rather than Hornby's often repeated performance of arriving after the event. I do like that this ticks a box as a proper S&D engine, although I've often pushed for more NER/NE Region machines that came afterwards. 

As always, there are a few of the Hornby range that crop up soon after release. The P2 with deflectors was to have been done before and the A4 dublo range appears to be the predicted A4 retool is disguise. There are a number of other choices that tie in with releases - the L1 tanks are back and the various railroad items pitch the accuracy and price point to an area that serves that part of the market. 

Some of the full tooled items are shooting up in price - which is only to increase again next year. Still the choices should get the sales in. Mayflower should prove to be popular while the class 67 in Royal livery should be an instant hit. Yes theres a lot more diesel and electric in the range as Hornby seek to counter the new arrivals from competitors but the range still hits areas that should see them do well. Its a sign that such choices are whats needed, as steam overall looses its once dominant position. 

Of interest is the release of the GNER HST. It will be interesting to see what the spec of these is fully and if the stock is based on the Oxford Rail Mk.3 range that was supposed to have been designed with HST in mind. Also interesting will be if another HST brakes cover as I suspect it will... 

So - overall a decent range and one that those who bemoan its lack of some areas must forget that Hornby will have served them well to this point. A balance, a catch up and a chance to hit back on liveries in Hornby's range that are strengths. 

[Lee1975]

I was hoping for a re-run of mk2e FO/TSOs in Blue/Grey Inter-City.  They always seem to sell out whilst retailers appear to have loads of privatisation era Mk3 HST coaches hanging around at heavily discounted prices.

 

Being able to build a 1970’s/80’s rake of mk2s quite cheaply via the Railroad or Railroad Plus range wouldn’t be a bad move would it?

[spamcan61]

1 hour ago, Moxy said:

 

Yes. That is due in April.

There's still a long way to go for the previously announced phases 2, 3and 4 anyway.

[ColinB]

I couldn't see any sound fitted models and I know it is not much but the 9F Black Prince appears to be £3=00 cheaper than the current one available. They do have different tenders so could that explain the difference in price. Shame about the sound fitted locos, they were good value for the money. 

[Mad McCann]

It looks like a very cautious approach this year on account of the increasingly dire economic situation tbh. 

Probably realistic in that light.

[Rob Wallace]

I have to be honest, I’m quite disappointed. The seacows look nice, especially the weathered one. But I was hoping for privatisation eta mk2 coaches. As the eBay prices are getting just daft for them. Oh well. 
 

Locomotion looks lovely, but I sadly I can’t see them selling in large numbers. 

[County of Yorkshire]

1 hour ago, rovex said:

1 hour ago, rovex said:

Also I had hoped we'd seen the last of the old GWR Collett coaches and that the moulds had been taken out and buried in an unmarked grave

I agree. Imagine if that train pack had’ve been a new-tool Hawksworth County with the more recent Collett coaches in Hawksworth livery - cor! I’d have pre-ordered a couple of those. As it is, that Railroad issue train pack looks ripe for bargain bin fodder. 
 

This isn’t a range announcement that gives any confidence that Hornby will trade out of the red and into the black on the balance sheet. There’s nothing in there that you would buy in volume/multiples of. Personally this makes it about 3 years in a row where I’ve not pre-ordered anything. 
 

CoY 

Edited January 9 by County of Yorkshire

[WCML100]

17 minutes ago, The Black Hat said:

Personally I think this is a very strategic and sensible range from Hornby this year. The choices of models and the levels in the range point to a balanced range to cater for a lot of interest and where it is popular. Locomotion No. 1 surely must have been expected in the run into 2025 and after the success of Rocket. Better it should be here now, rather than Hornby's often repeated performance of arriving after the event. I do like that this ticks a box as a proper S&D engine, although I've often pushed for more NER/NE Region machines that came afterwards. 

As always, there are a few of the Hornby range that crop up soon after release. The P2 with deflectors was to have been done before and the A4 dublo range appears to be the predicted A4 retool is disguise. There are a number of other choices that tie in with releases - the L1 tanks are back and the various railroad items pitch the accuracy and price point to an area that serves that part of the market. 

Some of the full tooled items are shooting up in price - which is only to increase again next year. Still the choices should get the sales in. Mayflower should prove to be popular while the class 67 in Royal livery should be an instant hit. Yes theres a lot more diesel and electric in the range as Hornby seek to counter the new arrivals from competitors but the range still hits areas that should see them do well. Its a sign that such choices are whats needed, as steam overall looses its once dominant position. 

Of interest is the release of the GNER HST. It will be interesting to see what the spec of these is fully and if the stock is based on the Oxford Rail Mk.3 range that was supposed to have been designed with HST in mind. Also interesting will be if another HST brakes cover as I suspect it will... 

So - overall a decent range and one that those who bemoan its lack of some areas must forget that Hornby will have served them well to this point. A balance, a catch up and a chance to hit back on liveries in Hornby's range that are strengths. 

 

The GNER coaches will be the latest 2022 MK3 HST trailer tooling as per the FGW fag packet, East Coast liveries etc previously released in the last year or so - not to be confused with the oxford rail MK3a Loco hauled tooling. 

[Typeapproval]

I know my opinion counts for very little, however I must confess to being entirely 'Underwhelmed' by the majority of the Hornby Range and the 2024 releases do nothing to increase my interest. A return to toy trains (the Beatles, various 0-4-0s etc.) is interesting. unfortunately the price/cost hardly reflects their worth. For some time I have thought how, sadly the once magnificent brand (and not just them!) has changed. I recently came across a Hornby SR brake van that had a totally invisible interior! The cost in both development time and construction must have reflected in the retail price (unknown to me) and was in truth totally pointless! As I have suggested elsewhere on this site, perhaps if manufactures produced "Models" and "Super detail Models" that way all "Collectors and Modellers" could be served. The quality of Hornby "Railroad" range is pretty good all things considered (My first Loco was a Triang Princess which compared to the HD Tank of many colours was pretty good) and for those who actually want to see a train running on a model railway (or even just a circle of track on the table) quite acceptable. I'm afraid I'm old enough to remember the release of Triang TT models and the fanfare that accompanied it. I have an uncomfortable feeling the latest Hornby "TT 120" might be an attempt to save the brand (Hornby) and equally is doomed to failure. 

 

Yes in comparison to the all singing all dancing electronics of today the LIMA pancake motors were a little rough, but via specialist dealers (Peters Spares etc.) parts are still available. Try getting a replacement motor for a two year old, out of the catalogue, loco today! 

 

Is complication necessarily better? Is detail that is invisible really necessary? The "Graham Farish" OO Pullman's with clearly visible tables etc. were a big step from Rovex 'Shorties' but invisible interiors to guards vans?

 

 

 

 

[elmtree-line]

Anyone know what happened to Hornby R30161 Transport for Wales Class 67 .?

[Paul.Uni]

3 minutes ago, elmtree-line said:

Anyone know what happened to Hornby R30161 Transport for Wales Class 67 .?

Read the first post, specifically the table of previously announced models.

[The Stationmaster]

3 hours ago, Jack P said:

A bit of a shame that the GWR Macaw was cancelled, thanks for the heads up Andy.

I wonder if Hornby got wind of someone else working on it?  (Not that I know of anyone who is - honest)

[BMacdermott]

Hello everyone

 

Once again, those who voted in The Quirky Poll have picked a winner!

 

Many congratulations to Hornby on the announcement of Locomotion.

 

The loco was High Polling in 2020, 2021 and 2023 (the poll didn't run in 2022).

 

Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team)

[E100]

24 minutes ago, ColinB said:

I couldn't see any sound fitted models and I know it is not much but the 9F Black Prince appears to be £3=00 cheaper than the current one available. They do have different tenders so could that explain the difference in price. Shame about the sound fitted locos, they were good value for the money. 

 

There's 2 railroad items plus the P2 with steam and sound. Considering the scale of the range announced (i.e. quite limited) I think that's still pretty fair. I agree that they are good value for money comparatively.

[elmtree-line]

7 minutes ago, Paul.Uni said:

Read the first post, specifically the table of previously announced models.

 

I did check, but its not listed on the Hornby website, and my local model shop has been told Hornby won't accept any orders for stock of this model?

[ColinB]

1 minute ago, E100 said:

 

There's 2 railroad items plus the P2 with steam and sound. Considering the scale of the range announced (i.e. quite limited) I think that's still pretty fair. I agree that they are good value for money comparatively.

I must admit I ignored the P2 because isn't that a model that was promised two years ago? I think I have still got the one with sound and steam still on preorder.

[Legend]

26 minutes ago, County of Yorkshire said:

I agree. Imagine if that train pack had’ve been a new-tool Hawksworth County with the more recent Collett coaches in Hawksworth livery - cor! I’d have pre-ordered a couple of those. As it is, that Railroad issue train pack looks ripe for bargain bin fodder. 
 

This isn’t a range announcement that gives any confidence that Hornby will trade out of the red and into the black on the balance sheet. There’s nothing in there that you would buy in volume/multiples of. Personally this makes it about 3 years in a row where I’ve not pre-ordered anything. 
 

CoY 

it is significant though that a lot of 2023 items are still to arrive . If you take these models and the newly announced ones  it might just get them into the black . There’s a lot to come through , like that delicious looking FLIRT . I suspect that one of the announcements in the year might be a Welsh one, given that I think we have already seen versions of it .  Annoyingly for Hornby most of the new(2023) tooling doesn’t seem to be coming through till April, and I suspect that’s ambitious given the FLIRT hasn’t yet entered production . This means all these sales will miss March Year End , so I predict another loss this year . 

[E100]

1 minute ago, ColinB said:

I must admit I ignored the P2 because isn't that a model that was promised two years ago? I think I have still got the one with sound and steam still on preorder.

 

So previously 2007 was announced as a Steam and Sound model but that has disappeared from the website though a retailer has confirmed it's still able to be ordered through them so seemingly hasn't been cancelled. 2002 is new for 2024. 

[Legend]

20 minutes ago, elmtree-line said:

Anyone know what happened to Hornby R30161 Transport for Wales Class 67 .?

in the list of arrival times for 2023 models -April 2024 .

 

However, I can’t see any sign of the Strathclyde PTE Met Camm 101 in Orange/Black . Has it already arrived ? 

[Fair Oak Junction]

9 minutes ago, BMacdermott said:

Hello everyone

 

Once again, those who voted in The Quirky Poll have picked a winner!

 

Many congratulations to Hornby on the announcement of Locomotion.

 

The loco was High Polling in 2020, 2021 and 2023 (the poll didn't run in 2022).

 

Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team)

 

Given the reaction on here you wouldn't think so! 😄

 

But looking at the wider hobby outside the RMweb bubble, Locomotion has always been a popular subject when it comes to RTR ideas and a number of talented modellers have scratchbuilt working OO ones in the past. I have no doubt it'll sell well.

[34theletterbetweenB&D]

1 hour ago, Oldddudders said:

There is clearly demand for preservation-era models, and 92203 fits right in.

No dispute there. In fact I am rather hoping that once the P2 is running, and then swiftly gets a rebuild to incorpoarate the Bugatti streeamlining, (the LNER engineering team were competent  and didn't spend money - ever in short supply -  on that for no reason) that Hornby will briskly release it in the BR lined green that is one of the liveries it is bound to carry . 😁

[Cruachan]

7 minutes ago, Legend said:

However, I can’t see any sign of the Strathclyde PTE Met Camm 101 in Orange/Black . Has it already arrived ? 

Listed as due in March in the full Hornby 2023 release update list:

Hornby releases update on 2023 announcements - World Of Railways (world-of-railways.co.uk)

[Butler Henderson]

Might they be tweaking the tooling of Locomotion in the future to say cover the replica. That announced is as preserved and hence authentically stuffed and should not move which if it's anything like Rocket will how most of them will be anyway. How much will be in horribly brittle plastic when it should logically be metal components?

[RyanN91]

Wow I am impressed about this Locomotion No. 1 incredible! I am extremely  very happy about this!

Tiger on its own very nice! 

Nice to see the L&M Railway rolling stock will now be available separately! 

L&MR Royal Mail Coach 

L&MR 2nd Class Coach

R40437  L&BR, No. 2 'Queen Adelaide's Saloon' - Era 1 I said these will probably be available separate back in 2023!  Ill get the last two as I already have the Royal Mail coach!

 

 

New new liveries I do like the GNER HST set with the MK3s

Nice to see the Thompson Class L 1s back!  

 

RailRoad GWR, Class 1000 I guessed correctly! 

RailRoad Plus GWR, Parcels Car  I guessed correctly! 

 

the rest again all nice new liveries. I do like the GWR, Loriot Y Machinery Truck with Load No. 2.!

 

Edit: I have just heard the absolutely dreadful devastating news about Hatton's I want to say a huge thank to  them. Most of my model railway including rolling stocks scenery and accessories! came from them! All of their staff and customer service has always been exceptional! I am very sad to see a beloved British retailer announce their closure I  am very sorry to hear the loss of staff as well. what an absolutely awful start to this year!  Gutted! 💔

Edited January 9 by RyanN91