Coldgunner Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 You've given so much in this thread I feel I want to give something back already!!! Either today or tommorow I'll be heading into town with the camera, is there any particular details you need in around the station/bridge/yard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 29, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2012 Regarding A4 tenders,the 1928 ones were painted black above the beading.I worked on them from cleaner to fireman on occasions,and would stake my life on it;in BR green ,of course. The later built tenders ,without beading,were green all the way up. I keep following this wonderful PN.model:brilliant! Regards,Roy. Thanks Roy, the best evidence is always from those who actually saw things close up themselves! That's about 8 A4's that will need some black paint adding I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 29, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2012 You've given so much in this thread I feel I want to give something back already!!! Either today or tommorow I'll be heading into town with the camera, is there any particular details you need in around the station/bridge/yard? Yes thanks, that would be great. Crescent Bridge in particular is something we need to get as much as we can, plus Spital Bridge too. Also some shots of the old buildings still there at the back of the Up yard at the North end. I've been meaning to go down and do some more photography for quite a while but it looks like you will save me a journey, for which I shall be very grateful. Funnily enough I shall be not far away today myself, on Peterborough Milton golf course. I'm looking forward to that -it's always a good day out. 61635 Milton is a certainty for the layout when the Hornby B17 finally appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 when the Hornby B17 finally appears. This year or next Gilbert - this year or next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I'll see what I can get for you GN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I managed to get quite a lot of what you need GN. Will post them to my albums when I get home. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) If the LNER 8-wheel tenders look to carry black above the beading then by all means paint your models black. Personally I doubt that BR had a different policy for plain or rivetted tenders and those with beading and that the apparent black area was as a result of "cleaners reach". I once saw a colour photo of a tender where traces of green could be seen above the beading. The cleaner couldn't reach any further and so there were arcs of clean green just above the beading. The rest was plain 'ol coal dust and traffic muck the same as that on cab roofs and atop A4 boiler cladding. On the otherhand, it might have been the case that at least one shed painted the area above the beading black because it was never cleaned anyway. Edited May 29, 2012 by coachmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 This year or next Gilbert - this year or next? It's the literal "Ghost Train" of the Hornby catalogue at the minute. A pity as the last sample I saw looked excellent. Can't understand why it hasn't be released yet when it looked more or less the finished article the last time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 (edited) Uploading my photo's for you now Great Northern, however I took this at Peterborough Museum. edit: full set now ready http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/album/2185-peterborough-north/ Edited May 29, 2012 by Coldgunner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 29, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2012 It's the literal "Ghost Train" of the Hornby catalogue at the minute. A pity as the last sample I saw looked excellent. Can't understand why it hasn't be released yet when it looked more or less the finished article the last time around. I think I read somewhere they are now due in August Simon? I agree though that all has gone very quiet once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 29, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 29, 2012 Uploading my photo's for you now Great Northern, however I took this at Peterborough Museum. edit: full set now ready http://www.rmweb.co....rborough-north/ Many thanks, you've been very busy! I won't have a chance to look through them in detail till tomorrow evening, but I can see at a glance that there is a lot there that both I and Gravy Train will find very useful. Once again, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 From what I could see of the new development, it looked nice. Although it'll still suffer the same problem of 4m taxis waiting outside. A sad result of the councils "collect 3 crisp packets and become a taxi driver" policies. But I digress. Which platforms that are there now are part of the original building, is one side of platform 1 the original? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonF Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I think I read somewhere they are now due in August Simon? I agree though that all has gone very quiet once again. I had an e-mail from hattons last week saying that they were expecting the B17 "Sandringham" in stock in mid August, so fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yes, I got that email too - August it appears to be. But saying that...this time last year, I had an identical email in my inbox, save for August 2011 was the date...! It's not a matter of life or death of course, but it is intriguing the number of models which have jumped the queue ahead of the B17, including the B1. I'm half expecting the O1 to appear before the B17. It couldn't, could it...?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 full sized v2's at Peterborough, first one looks just like the model shots. 0905 by andersley2010, on Flickr Peterborough by Railway Dave, on Flickr That second photo is very interesting, as the engine appears to be backing onto a train in Platform 6. I knew that theoretically both that platform and platform 3 could be used for Southbound departures, but this is the first evidence I have seen of it actually happening. Thanks again Mike for turning up yet another gem! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 From what I could see of the new development, it looked nice. Although it'll still suffer the same problem of 4m taxis waiting outside. A sad result of the councils "collect 3 crisp packets and become a taxi driver" policies. But I digress. Which platforms that are there now are part of the original building, is one side of platform 1 the original? I believe that the Up platform face is original, and the Up bay, but that's about it as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, I got that email too - August it appears to be. But saying that...this time last year, I had an identical email in my inbox, save for August 2011 was the date...! It's not a matter of life or death of course, but it is intriguing the number of models which have jumped the queue ahead of the B17, including the B1. I'm half expecting the O1 to appear before the B17. It couldn't, could it...?! I'm told that the B17 got started all over again at a new factory, which if correct would at least partially explain the delay. New stuff from Hornby does still seem to be very thin on the ground though, so we shall just have to continue to be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 It's a shame that R3114 the late crest B1 been delayed til 2013 - I had my eye on that. Preferable to the scottish variant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 Having ******** my back very succesfully and painfully yesterday while golfing 90 miles from home I shall be restricted to very gentle pursuits till I can get to the physio. Why do these things always happen just before a Bank Holiday? Anyway, I can still just manage the duck under to the railway room, so there's likely to be a bit more activity over the next few days. I now have another "locoshed" and a very up market one too. This used to house my hi-fi, but that has now been retired and I couldn't find another use for this nice bit of furniture, so Tim helped me get it up into the layout room.(pre back injury). Of course this now means I have room to store a lot more locos. Photo taken without tripod, so not too sharp, but you get the general idea. While Tim was here I asked him to put just one coat of Klear on an A3. Three or four are needed to get the superb finish on the A4's, but I can't have all my Pacifics looking like that, because in real life they didn't. This then is an attempt to improve the appearance of Hornby's paint job without getting the look of a specially prepared loco. As it happens the next train in the sequence, which has been sadly neglected of late, was the 8.12am Grantham- KX, headed by a local A3 which has the standard Hornby paint job. I reckon even one coat of Klear gives a considerable improvement. These two were taken in identical light conditions, not much of it frankly, and with identical settings. Before the light managed to deteriorate even more I got two more shots of Centenary slowing for the stop in Platform 2. i'm very pleased with the way the water tower and coalong stage have enhanced this view. I'll have to put them on another post though, as they have somehow disappeared while I've been typing this. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 Here are the other two shots. I've just noticed you can even see a bit of the detailed signal box interior in the second one. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, you can.....I bet even the clock is telling the right time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gresley Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Those shots of the A3s are pure magic. Also the interior of the signal box. What's that I hear ? 4 bells ?? gresley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timara Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 This used to house my hi-fi, but that has now been retired and I couldn't find another use for this nice bit of furniture, so Tim helped me get it up into the layout room.(pre back injury). Of course this now means I have room to store a lot more locos. Photo taken without tripod, so not too sharp, but you get the general idea. And boy was it heavy..... Still, it was one way or breaking into a sweat! While Tim was here I asked him to put just one coat of Klear on an A3. Three or four are needed to get the superb finish on the A4's, but I can't have all my Pacifics looking like that, because in real life they didn't. This then is an attempt to improve the appearance of Hornby's paint job without getting the look of a specially prepared loco. As it happens the next train in the sequence, which has been sadly neglected of late, was the 8.12am Grantham- KX, headed by a local A3 which has the standard Hornby paint job. I reckon even one coat of Klear gives a considerable improvement. These two were taken in identical light conditions, not much of it frankly, and with identical settings. I will still admit it could have benefitted from a 2nd coat of the stuff, but one coat (applied with the greatest of care to ensure it doesn't run; it looks awful if it does that!) does make a vast difference, if only just to lose that rather unauthentic matte look that seems to plague almost everything from Hornby. Bachmann isn't quite so bad...... I see I managed to miss painting the wheels black to lose that effect the blackened wheelsets give straight from the box. Only a 5 min job....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, you can.....I bet even the clock is telling the right time? Oh! I forgot to wind it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted May 31, 2012 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2012 And boy was it heavy..... Still, it was one way or breaking into a sweat! I will still admit it could have benefitted from a 2nd coat of the stuff, but one coat (applied with the greatest of care to ensure it doesn't run; it looks awful if it does that!) does make a vast difference, if only just to lose that rather unauthentic matte look that seems to plague almost everything from Hornby. Bachmann isn't quite so bad...... I see I managed to miss painting the wheels black to lose that effect the blackened wheelsets give straight from the box. Only a 5 min job....... I think it is fine as it is Tim. The green is a richer and deeper shade, much nearer the real thing, and it looks right to me for a well cared for but not specially "bulled up" engine. As to the wheels, you just ran out of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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