Peterborough North

[great northern]

It's worth weathering as an individual item but then as you have done in the rake keep it away from that lovely new non corridor third (which I am sure you are not going to touch) otherwise the contrast could be too great

You are quite right, I daren't do anything to mar that lovely finish!  They will be in this order, so as far apart as they can be.

[great northern]

Good to see the L&Y coach has turned up G., Ian and Dave have of course made a lovely job of it!

 

I have in mind that those LM trains were sometimes made up of an LMS 3-coach gangwayed (Inter-District?) set plus a non-gangwayed coach as a 'strengthener', but I know you will have the relevant documentation to support what you run!

Not really Steve, as I don't have the sort of detail about the LMS in my library that I do about the LNER, so I've had to rely on photos which as usual tend to be those three quarter views in which only the first one or two vehicles can be clearly seen. There are enough where it can be seen that the first two are non corridor though to make me fairly confident about what I've done. My other set has two Larry Goddard Midland Railway corridor thirds, which he assured me would be typical for this kind of service.

[great northern]

The camera likes A4s, so tonight brings two more views of Silver Link.

 

[31A]

Not really Steve, as I don't have the sort of detail about the LMS in my library that I do about the LNER, so I've had to rely on photos which as usual tend to be those three quarter views in which only the first one or two vehicles can be clearly seen. There are enough where it can be seen that the first two are non corridor though to make me fairly confident about what I've done. My other set has two Larry Goddard Midland Railway corridor thirds, which he assured me would be typical for this kind of service.

 

 

They probably varied, but I remembered Barrie Walls running a representation of such a train on his 'Wallsea' layout which was made up as I described, and he is usually pretty hot on getting formations as nearly correct as he can.  Do some of Vic Fincham's pictures show the 'Midland' trains thus formed, as well?

[great northern]

They probably varied, but I remembered Barrie Walls running a representation of such a train on his 'Wallsea' layout which was made up as I described, and he is usually pretty hot on getting formations as nearly correct as he can.  Do some of Vic Fincham's pictures show the 'Midland' trains thus formed, as well?

I've just had another look Steve. The first four I found all differ. One is all corridor, another as you describe, three corridor and one non corridor, and the other two have two of each. For once it seems that whatever I do may be OK. Having said that, I am notoriously bad at identifying coaching stock.

[great northern]

One last lingering look at 60014 as she glides towards Crescent Bridge.

followed by an analysis of the formation, twelve on, and all made up from loose stock.

Another very nice mixture, this one.

[Markeg]

Hi Gilbert,

 

Thats a nice set of coaches you have mustered there.  Gresley's and Thompson's, Short, End Vestibules, Brakes, Restaurant, etc.

 

I have been considering a "Wright bodge" using a Hornby 1st Sleeper (red and cream) to convert it to a Composite to add to my set.  Both Comet and MJT produce a the same Composite sides Diagram D6/D130.

My question is which is the best?  I my discussions with a well known builder has suggested MJT (Mike Trice).  I am leaning that way, but another opinion is valued.  I will put my question to Mr Wright too I think.  Any help is appreciated.

 

Thanks

Mark

[jwealleans]

I'd go for MJT over Comet. The Comet ones don't have the hinge holes and I don't think their windows are quite the right shape. The MJT roof is better, although more work.

 

These are BCKs, but you can compare for yourself:

 

MJT

 

 

Comet

 

[Mallard60022]

I'd go for MJT over Comet. The Comet ones don't have the hinge holes and I don't think their windows are quite the right shape. The MJT roof is better, although more work.

 

These are BCKs, but you can compare for yourself:

 

MJT

 

 

Comet

 

I would have said either, however I find the Comet sides Droplight 'hole' too small (often I didn't fit the supplied drop thinking it looked better that way). IMO the Comet sides also are a bit of a ##### to solder together (top half to bottom half as the half etch 'lip' is often very narrow indeed). Yes, the MJT roof is better as JW says. However as the sides are so inexpensive you could try both and see what you think. You could experiment with the 51L roof from Wizard that is a nice moulding. I did find that a tad short on a Comet conversion compared to the Comet  roof. I think MJT Bogie sides are a bit more detailed than Comet's. The 247 Developments range used toi be even better but I think they have gone forever?

 

Phil 

Edited May 31, 2018 by Mallard60022

[jwealleans]

Some of the 247 bogies are available again - Brian had them on the stand at Donny.

[thegreenhowards]

I would have said either, however I find the Comet sides Droplight 'hole' too small (often I didn't fit the supplied drop thinking it looked better that way). IMO the Comet sides also are a bit of a ##### to solder together (top half to bottom half as the half etch 'lip' is often very narrow indeed). Yes, the MJT roof is better as JW says. However as the sides are so inexpensive you could try both and see what you think. You could experiment with the 51L roof from Wizard that is a nice moulding. I did find that a tad short on a Comet conversion compared to the Comet  roof. I think MJT Bogie sides are a bit more detailed than Comet's. The 247 Developments range used toi be even better but I think they have gone forever?

 

Phil

 

I used Mousa sides for my d130. They were OK, but quite difficult to attach at the roof. I find the lip on the MJT sides which locates under the cornice makes the job easier. Not sure whether comet also have this lip as I have only built their Thompson’s.

[jwealleans]

You can use the outer part of the etch to make a lip on the Mousa sides. It also helps keep them straight.

[60027Merlin]

Gilbert,

 

Lovely shots of Silver Link and the marvellous selection of coaches behind it. The loco and coaches merged into the photographs in a most natural fashion capturing the complete station atmosphere on the ECML in the late 50s.

 

Eric

[Mallard60022]

I used Mousa sides for my d130. They were OK, but quite difficult to attach at the roof. I find the lip on the MJT sides which locates under the cornice makes the job easier. Not sure whether comet also have this lip as I have only built their Thompson’s.

No lip .................. 

P

[thegreenhowards]

You can use the outer part of the etch to make a lip on the Mousa sides. It also helps keep them straight.

Doh! Why didn’t I think of that. Thanks for the tip.

 

Andy

[great northern]

Putt...Putt...Putt. Golf, not moped. Repeat several times. Happy bunny? Three glasses of red later, the pain has receded.  Here is a picture in which nothing is happening, but some on loan grain wagons are basking in the evening sun.

Meanwhile, more coals are on their way to London.

[great northern]

  We watch the 9F as it goes away from us to the South.

Plenty of photoshopping practice to be had with this one. Then a black and white close up of the locomotive.

[great northern]

Today I have been straightened up. I wonder if that will also straighten up my golf shots. Tomorrow will show, one way or the other.

 

Tonight we start with a photo I'm really pleased with.

 

Then we have the arrival of the 5.52 from KX, which brings back the B1 that went Up at lunchtime.

Still not quite enough wagons to fill the gap.

[westerner]

The last three B&W photos are most realistic Gilbert. Keep them coming.

[chaz]

I think the grain wagons look excellent and have the advantage, being taller than the minerals, of forming an effective backdrop to "the action". Have you thought about some sort of low screen so that your camera doesn't see "sky" between the wheels and under the couplings of the line of wagons?

 

Chaz

[Mallard60022]

I think the grain wagons look excellent and have the advantage, being taller than the minerals, of forming an effective backdrop to "the action". Have you thought about some sort of low screen so that your camera doesn't see "sky" between the wheels and under the couplings of the line of wagons?

 

Chaz

The Grain wagons look OK from that sort of distance, however they are Wrenn 'classics' so not to scale. Nevertheless they are quite precious.

Phil (Ducky)

[great northern]

The last three B&W photos are most realistic Gilbert. Keep them coming.

Thanks David. As it happens , there is more monochrome this morning. B1 61282 completing the last few yards of its journey.

 

and KX A3 Hermit coming straight through at the head of the 5.05pm Up Newcastle.

Golf shortly. Four hours of continuous heavy rain forecast. Such joy.

[The Stationmaster]

 

8 9F 1.JPG

 

And the cry of 'spaceship' goes up from the platform-enders!!   Lovely stuff Gilbert with a top notch 'train spotter plus' photo that really is a picture.

[great northern]

I think the grain wagons look excellent and have the advantage, being taller than the minerals, of forming an effective backdrop to "the action". Have you thought about some sort of low screen so that your camera doesn't see "sky" between the wheels and under the couplings of the line of wagons?

 

Chaz

It will have to be a very thin one Chaz, as already I'm derailing wagons on the far line as I try to squeeze past them. I shall a) try to lose a bit of weight, and b) find some thin plasticard, though that isn't going to solve the problem, is it?

[great northern]

We did not get wet, and the little white thing did go straight, and rather a long way too. Good day all round. A bit of still life tonight.

and then another view of part of Hermit, plus an Ivatt backing down onto the 8.30 to Melton Constable. It is however several minutes late off shed, so passengers will be a bit miffed.