RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted September 30, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 30, 2015 Well spotted Alasdair! The drill size I used was 1.6mm although the next size up or down may look OK. After drilling the hole I carefully filed the top and bottom of it by a fraction with a small round swiss needle file as the holes on the real locos were not exactly round. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold trw1089 Posted October 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi Eric The old timers look really good, and the trailer has me waiting in anticipation. With the tablet catcher on the A3, was this on Scottish engines only or more widespread. I'm just on holidays at the moment and away from my books so can't go and check it out myself. Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi Eric The old timers look really good, and the trailer has me waiting in anticipation. With the tablet catcher on the A3, was this on Scottish engines only or more widespread. I'm just on holidays at the moment and away from my books so can't go and check it out myself. Cheers Tony Tony As far as i can remember without going into any book it was only on scottish engines for working the single line section of the east coast mainline around montrose. Im guessing anyway as it seems the only possible reason. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Not much modelling being done recently due to gardening and household work. However, during a tidy up in some free time a few weeks ago, I came across a box containing a few models built in the late 60s and decided to see if they still worked. Fortunately they did and are now kept in a more up to date box to avoid being ignored. The A3 was originally finished out as Sir Visto but as that is already in the roster I renamed it as one of the regular visitors to Haymarket from Gateshead. It is a Wills kit with Jamieson frames plus a Jamieson tender which was the only GNR tender type available then. Along with the A3 were the Jubilee, Royal Scot and an A1. The two LMS locos are Jamieson kits with a Wills tender for the Jub. and a Wrenn tender for the Royal Scot as it already had rivet detail. From memory the lining is either Kingsprint or Kemco. Where has the time gone? A3 60040 Cameronian.jpg A3 60040 Cameronian (1).JPG Jubilee 45563 Australia.JPG Royal Scot 46104 Scottish Borderer.JPG Jubilee and Royal Scot.JPG Some splendid old-fashioned modelling evident here, Eric. My most sincere compliments. When I look at what you've done here, it almost exactly mirrors what I was doing 30+ (?) years ago - a Wills A3 body on a set of Jamieson frames and a Jamieson tender. I actually plagiarised the Jamieson A3 frames by sweating one side to four blanks, then drilled through the bearings and cut out the shapes. I did the same with the rods, then bought more Wills' body kits (A4s as well) and more Jamieson valve gear frets/cylinders/bogies/ponies/tenders, etc. I only have one of those left now. Jamieson Jubilees and Royal Scots as well - I used redundant Hornby-Dublo 8F tenders behind the ones I made in those days of yore; were they correct? I really don't know, nor probably cared then. They've all long-gone, too. At least you've kept yours. Recently, I rummaged through some dusty boxes and discovered some long-forgotten kits-to-be-built. These included a pair of Jamieson V2s, a Royal Scot, B12/2, Lord Nelson, Compound and the K1/1. I've built the V2s and given the rest away to 'younger' modellers for them to practise their soldering skills. When I look back, I'm astonished how wide the variety of loco kits were. Jamieson would produce a kit for any loco of your choice (in their hand-cut range) at a price. My A2/1 began life that way. They'd produce more than one of each (about a dozen, probably), and I used to scour the EAMES adverts to see what was on offer. That way, things like a Baltic Tank (I think it was a Furness one) could be made (for friends), a Manson G&SWR 4-4-0 and an SR Remembrance if my memory serves. There was also the Cornucopia of the cast-kit market. I built a (Sutherland?) Highland Small Ben, a DJH Jones Goods, at least two Scottish 0-6-0s, one big, one small (which kits would these be?), a Highland River Class, a Nu-Cast kit for a K2 with a side-window cab, plus a Caley Big Pug and 0-4-4T. There were many others (who did the Glen kit?). What chance these now for Scottish modellers, especially since the RTR market looks no further north than Lancs & Yorks? I congratulate you on your modelling down the years. Of course it's nice to be able to exploit the latest Hornby and Bachmann RTR locos (who wouldn't?), but the ones you've made which you've illustrated are much more satisfying to me. Do you have more, please? Edited to include the Jamieson J38 (another hand-cut kit), their J39, of course and an ECJM V4 which I put together. Edited October 1, 2015 by Tony Wright 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted October 1, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2015 Many thanks Tony. It was amazing just how many kits were available then and just as important the easiness of obtaining separate parts from kit manufacturers which was handy when making up different versions of locos. Eames of Reading, Kings Cross Models and W & H were also great sources in this regard. For the Scottish modeller there is less on offer now as a result of the loss of so many kit manufacturers. The Glen was one of a series of North British kits produced by GEM in the 70s. I have other stuff from the 70s and 80s which are ex- Caley/LMs of locos shedded at Dalry Road which I'll try to get round to photograph. As a matter of interest Dalry Road was about 10 minutes walk from Haymarket which was very convenient. Also in the box I mentioned was a Wills A2 converted to an A1 using extra parts from Wills and Jamieson frames altered to suit. It must have been about 1972/73 when I attempted that and it was finished off in BR blue, it still runs! Regarding the A3s fitted with tablet catchers. They were required for the single line section of the ECML between Usan and Montrose South. The locos fitted were based at Dundee and Aberdeen for a short time and were Merry Hampton, Ladas, Sir Visto, William Whitelaw (later renamedTagalie),Spearmint and Cicero. The three transferred to England had the holes plated over but the other three remaining up here ran with the hole in the cab side to the bitter end. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Many thanks Tony. It was amazing just how many kits were available then and just as important the easiness of obtaining separate parts from kit manufacturers which was handy when making up different versions of locos. Eames of Reading, Kings Cross Models and W & H were also great sources in this regard. For the Scottish modeller there is less on offer now as a result of the loss of so many kit manufacturers. The Glen was one of a series of North British kits produced by GEM in the 70s. I have other stuff from the 70s and 80s which are ex- Caley/LMs of locos shedded at Dalry Road which I'll try to get round to photograph. As a matter of interest Dalry Road was about 10 minutes walk from Haymarket which was very convenient. Also in the box I mentioned was a Wills A2 converted to an A1 using extra parts from Wills and Jamieson frames altered to suit. It must have been about 1972/73 when I attempted that and it was finished off in BR blue, it still runs! Regarding the A3s fitted with tablet catchers. They were required for the single line section of the ECML between Usan and Montrose South. The locos fitted were based at Dundee and Aberdeen for a short time and were Merry Hampton, Ladas, Sir Visto, William Whitelaw (later renamedTagalie),Spearmint and Cicero. The three transferred to England had the holes plated over but the other three remaining up here ran with the hole in the cab side to the bitter end. Eric Hi Eric I missed that detail when I changed a Hornby A3 to 60101 Cicero some time ago, I will have to get some reference photos out to see what is required. Those photos of your just get better and better, in Spain at the moment on a weeks holiday staying with my sister who lives here. Lovely hot weather but looking forward to cracking on with the Haymarket buildings when we get back. A trip to Eileen's Emporium is in order to get some 500mm lengths of 2.5mm X 1.25mm brass hollow half tube for guttering along with many other metal and plastic sections. Regards David Edited October 1, 2015 by landscapes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted October 3, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 3, 2015 On the road with As two thirds of the locomotives allocated to Haymarket were named and about two fifths were Pacifics the photographs reflect that wonderful combination. Unfortunately there are no V2s as I only have two, a Nu-Cast kit and a Bachmann, both of which are finished off as a 64A locos whilst the two Jamieson kit built ones were sold decades ago. Sadly the Bachmann model is just not up to standard, hopefully that will soon not be the case. 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher24 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 On the road with 1. Haymarket.jpg As two thirds of the locomotives allocated to Haymarket were named and about two fifths were Pacifics the photographs reflect that wonderful combination. Unfortunately there are no V2s as I only have two, a Nu-Cast kit and a Bachmann, both of which are finished off as a 64A locos whilst the two Jamieson kit built ones were sold decades ago. Sadly the Bachmann model is just not up to standard, hopefully that will soon not be the case. 2. A2 60537 Bachelors Button hammering along.JPG 3. A4 60011 Empire of India entering Longdrem.JPG 4. B1 61221 Sir Alexander Erskine-Hill in close up.JPG 5. A3 60041 Salmon Trout coming to a stop at Longdrem.JPG 6. J36 65235 Gough on it's usual daily freight work.JPG 7. A1 60152 Holyrood gets the signal and about to move off.JPG 8. D11.2 62690 The Lady of the Lake Waverley bound.JPG 9. A4 60004 William Whitelaw just getting into it's stride after leaving the station.JPG 10. B1 61178 moving off.JPG 11. V3 67668 on a local turn for the Waverley.jpg 12. A2.3 60519 Honeyway ready for Dundee.jpg 13. A3 60101 Cicero coasting in.JPG 14. D49.1 62719 Peebles-shire on the branch entering the staion.JPG 15. A1 60161 North British powering up the gradient.JPG 16. A2 60530 Sayajirao awaiting the off.JPG 17. D11.2 62693 Roderick Dhu on the branch.jpg 18. 61007 Klipspringer heads for the Waverley.jpg 19. A3 60089 Felstead racing north.JPG 20. J36 65243 Maude leaving the goods yard on the daily pick up freight.JPG 21. A1 60162 Saint Johnstoun caught at speed.JPG 22. A2.1 60510 Robert the Bruce heading north.jpg 23. B1 61245 Murray of Elibank on a Dundee turn.JPG 24. A3 60096 Papyrus eases away.JPG 25. B1 61244 Strang Steel caught at speed.JPG 26. V1 67615 waiting patiently.JPG 27. D49.2 62743 The Cleveland heading for the Waverley.jpg 28. A3 60100 Spearmint from a distance.JPG 29. A2 60535 Hormet's Beauty pulling away from Longdrem.JPG 30. J36 65243 Maude on an oil tanker freight.JPG 31. A1 60160 Auld Reekie on an Aberdeen - Kings X fish.JPG 32. A4 60024 Kingfisher simmers whilst the passengers alight.JPG 33. A4 60009 Union of South Africa hammering up rhe gradient.jpg 34. A4 60031 Golden Plover heading towards the photographer.jpg [/size] As always a lovely selection of classes on show, i particularly like tr ex nbr types, im currently working on a j37 using the Hornby 700 0-6-0 as a starting point. Keep the pictures coming as its always nice to see them. Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold trw1089 Posted October 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2015 A beautiful selection of photographs there Eric, with both esteemed and workaday subjects. I think the clean A3 pacifics would be my favourites, followed by the Peppercorn A2s, wish there were more of them down Yorkshire way but Happy Knight was the only real regular on the Leeds line. Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hi Eric, Really nice, love the signals... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted October 4, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2015 Great to have another update, Eric. Nice pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hello. Can you advise of the source of your station platform lamps? Thanks, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted October 8, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hello. Can you advise of the source of your station platform lamps? Thanks, These were made by Mikes Models of Swindon. I purchased them about 35 years ago when I did not have a layout and was only building loco kits. I do not know what happened to the manufacturer. He also made other fittings such as water columns/towers and buffers for different railway companies. The water columns (ex-N.B.R.) in the engine shed on the layout are some of his as well. Hope that this helps. Eric , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Alder Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Holts Models have the range now and produce a limited selection from them. HTH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Thought they might be. Struck how the lamp support is similar to this example at Bo'ness: https://www.flickr.com/photos/93910018@N02/20056308262/in/album-72157632955037741/ Don't seem to be currently in production as Mike's Models - will just have to look out for second hand ones! Cheers, 26power These were made by Mikes Models of Swindon. I purchased them about 35 years ago when I did not have a layout and was only building loco kits. I do not know what happened to the manufacturer. He also made other fittings such as water columns/towers and buffers for different railway companies. The water columns (ex-N.B.R.) in the engine shed on the layout are some of his as well. Hope that this helps. Eric , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
auldreekie Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 (edited) Just to say that, despite the apparent lack of a "like" button, I hugely enjoyed your gallery of non-Edinburgh-based locomotives (not to mention the subsequent galleries, which DO allow for "liking"). An enormous exercise in nostalgia: many of the larger ones were old friends, from watching the locomotive changeover at Waverley on the southbound Aberdeen fish train (a regular spectacle on the homeward journey from school). I was fortunate, during a short trip to Edinburgh from the distant south, to catch a glimpse from a North Berwick train of No 9 preparing to set off for Tweedbank, so I am the more grateful for your record of that occasion. auldreekie Edited October 10, 2015 by auldreekie 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted December 29, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 29, 2015 There has not been much free time of late for taking photographs as I have used the railway modelling time for bashing on with some loco kit building which cannot be hurried but progress is being made with a J35 and a J38 now available for running on the layout. However, here are some views taken during the year, showing trains typically seen in the area pulled by locos from 64A and 64B plus a few occasional visitors. Some of the photos are grouped to feature a second view of the same train further along the line for a bit of variety. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 There has not been much free time of late for taking photographs as I have used the railway modelling time for bashing on with some loco kit building which cannot be hurried but progress is being made with a J35 and a J38 now available for running on the layout. However, here are some views taken during the year, showing trains typically seen in the area pulled by locos from 64A and 64B plus a few occasional visitors. Some of the photos are grouped to feature a second view of the same train further along the line for a bit of variety. 1. A2 60535 Hornet's Beauty Waverley bound.jpg 2. A2 60535 Hornet's Beauty Waverley bound.jpg 3. D11.2 62693 Roderick Dhu with a local from Pinkhill.jpg 4. B1 61221 Sir Alexander Erskine-Hill heading for Longdrem.JPG 5. D34 and D11.2 on local workings.jpg 6. A3 60094 Colorado hammering along for the south on a Kings X fish.JPG 7. J36 65224 Mons heading for Portobello (1).JPG 8. J36 65224 Mons heading for Portobello (2).JPG 9. J36 65224 Mons heading for Portobello (3).JPG 10. D30 62418 The Pirate on the branch heading for Longdrem.jpg 11. D30 62418 The Pirate entering Longdrem Station.JPG 12. St. 2 78048 on the branch about to pass the loco shed.JPG 13. Station scene.jpg 14. Station scene (2).jpg 15. A1 60161 North British on a Waverley - Perth.jpg 16. A4 60004 William Whitelaw heading north.JPG 17. J36 65243 Maude crossing over to the branch.JPG 18. J36 65243 Maude on the branch for Pinkhill goods yard.JPG 19. K2 61758 on a Dundee- Waverley passenger.JPG 20. Britannia 70051 Firth of Forth on a Perth - Waverley passenger.JPG 21. Shed entrance.jpg 22. K3 61881 on a down freight.jpg 23. D11.2 62685 Malcolm Graeme heads for the Waverley.jpg 24. D11.2 62685 Malcolm Graeme heads for the Waverley (2).jpg 25. A1 60152 Holyrood photographed from the field.jpg 26. J37 64572 on a freight for Niddrie (1).jpg 27. J37 64572 on a freight for Niddrie (2).jpg 28. J37 64572 on a freight for Niddrie (3).jpg 29. J37 64572 on a freight for Niddrie (4).jpg 30. J37 64572 on a freight for Niddrie (5).jpg 31. D49.1 62719 Peebles-shire setting off for the Waverley.jpg 32. A4 60009 Union of South Africa heading south.JPG 33. J88 68342 heading for Longdrem Goods Yard.jpg 34. J88 68342 arriving at Longdrem Goods Yard.jpg 35. J88 68342 arriving at Longdrem Goods Yard (2).jpg 36. Ivatt 2 46461 with a branch passenger working crossing over to the down main.JPG 37. N15 69135 leaves Longdrem heading for Pinkhill.JPG 38. N15 69135 on the branch heading for the station.JPG 39. D34 62487 Glen Arklet amidst a busy scene.jpg 40. A3 60100 Spearmint Perth bound.jpg 41. J35 64524 heading out of Longdrem Goods Yard.JPG 42. J35 64524 heading out of Longdrem Goods Yard (2).JPG 43. V2 60813 Dundee bound.JPG 45. C16 67497 On the Pinkhill Branch (2).JPG 46. WD 2-8-0 90350 on an empty mineral working (1).JPG 47. WD 2-8-0 90350 on an empty mineral working (2).JPG 48. Late summer evening sun.JPG 49. V4 61701 on a fitted freight heading back north.jpg 50. V4 61701 on a fitted freight heading back north.jpg 51. J35 64535 on an up freight.JPG 52. A2.3 60519 Honeyway on a Waverley - Dundee working.jpg 53. A3 60090 Grand Parade heads for the Waverley.JPG 54. A3 60090 Grand Parade heads for the Waverley.jpg 55. A3 60089 Felstead on the down main from the Waverley.jpg 56. A4 60004 William Whitelaw Waverley bound & D11.2 62677 Edie Ochiltree Thornton bound.jpg This is wonderful stuff, Eric. Has anyone else captured the flavour of ER/NER/ScR motive power so well? I think not. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Just had a first look through your thread and it's a lovely feel to the layout with some great modelling well done ,excellent layout and stock Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold trw1089 Posted December 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 29, 2015 Great new pics Eric, such a wonderful collection of motive power and rollingstock and all those pacifics, how could one not be impressed! Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hello Eric, Wonderful and evocative layout.I am just finishing a PDK D30 Scot and yours caught my eye. Is The Pirate lettering a transfer and if so what is the source? I am hoping to call mine Wandering Willie.My layout is set around Newcastle 1948-55 with the occasional incursion of ex-NB types! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted December 30, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hello Eric, Wonderful and evocative layout.I am just finishing a PDK D30 Scot and yours caught my eye. Is The Pirate lettering a transfer and if so what is the source? I am hoping to call mine Wandering Willie.My layout is set around Newcastle 1948-55 with the occasional incursion of ex-NB types! You will be able to get some D30 Scott name transfers from Modelmaster in Troon Ayrshire. They have details on their website. The relative transfer pack numbers are 4007A and 4008B. Number 4007A has Wandering Willie which is a bit of good luck for you as not all members of the class are included! The Pirate was a case in poin,t so it was a matter of cutting out suitable individual letters, or a small grouping, to make them up. It works OK but obviously takes longer but well worth the effort. It is better to order both packs for that reason as it gives you more options for cutting out. It was some time ago that I purchased them so perhaps there may be more names added now. In addition these packs include some D34 and Director names. As a matter of interest the names for for the Directors are now in a new series of packs for all members of that class. Hope that this helps. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerron Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 You will be able to get some D30 Scott name transfers from Modelmaster in Troon Ayrshire. They have details on their website. The relative transfer pack numbers are 4007A and 4008B. Number 4007A has Wandering Willie which is a bit of good luck for you as not all members of the class are included! The Pirate was a case in poin,t so it was a matter of cutting out suitable individual letters, or a small grouping, to make them up. It works OK but obviously takes longer but well worth the effort. It is better to order both packs for that reason as it gives you more options for cutting out. It was some time ago that I purchased them so perhaps there may be more names added now. In addition these packs include some D34 and Director names. As a matter of interest the names for for the Directors are now in a new series of packs for all members of that class. Hope that this helps. Eric Thanks Eric, I thought Modelmaster might do them but I could not find them in their catalogue. I did a search on 4007A and B with no result.I'll give them a call to see if they can do a special order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulzer Bear Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I just had this topic popping up my screen today, lots of nice pics on here. Is the K2 the old Nu-cast kit? And the J37? I don't know any manufacturer who did that in the past, but I'm relatively new in British/Scottish modeling. (I only found out that NBR developments does a chassis kit for this loco) Just started putting some parts of a PDK J36 togheter, to see which High Level gearbox and motor will fit in without protuding into the cab or taking the daylight under the boiler away, but more on that later inn my own topics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 60027Merlin Posted February 4, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted February 4, 2016 The K2 is the Nu-Cast kit from the 70s, still going strong! The J37 is from the same era from Norrie Blackburn, unfortunately they have not been available for many years. Norrie also produced C16, N15 and J88 kits as well. I am building a Crownline J36 (now PDK) just now and will be using the High Level Roadrunner Compact gearbox. I used it on a DJH J35 last year and it is a good runner like all the High Level gearboxes. Hope that this helps. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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