RMweb Premium finelines Posted September 5, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2010 During a conversation with a friend he suggested that I did a Sheerness bogie scrap wagon, to which I responded it’s far too long for me. He pointed out that the side ribbing would allow me to hide a join in the sides behind one of them. So just as an experiment, I’m floating the idea to see what you think. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 I plan on building A LOT of these for my N gauge layout (to run alongside kit built SSAs from, you know, a certain source ). I don't see how what you're proposing is radically different from Cambrian making the deck of their BBA kit in two sections. Obviously, it's the wrong scale, mind Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted September 5, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2010 During a conversation with a friend he suggested that I did a Sheerness bogie scrap wagon, to which I responded it’s far too long for me. He pointed out that the side ribbing would allow me to hide a join in the sides behind one of them. So just as an experiment, I’m floating the idea to see what you think. Roger Would it be these Roger ? I think that you'd have a good market there. I'd certainly have some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium finelines Posted September 5, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 5, 2010 Would it be these Roger ? I think that you'd have a good market there. I'd certainly have some. It was a long ranging discussion. The idea was these. Roger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 The thing that's exercising me most about these is how to fit a coupler when the overhang at each end of the wagon is so huge. The distance from the buffer beam (somehow "headstock" never seems right when applied to modern wagons) to the bogie pivot is 3692mm on the prototype, which is over 12 feet. There's going to be a lot of coupler displacement on any sort of curve. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Turner Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 It was a long ranging discussion. The idea was these. Roger Oh yes please.... Me and Beast have piccies of these on Liverpool docks. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted September 5, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2010 As Mike says "YES" please B) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted September 5, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 5, 2010 I was planning on scratchbuilding some of these, so a kit would be fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 5, 2010 Share Posted September 5, 2010 As a former North Kent resident with many memories of these in block trains (not quite as much fun as 40+ MCV's though !) an emphatic YES PLEASE. It might be an idea to start with the original 6 wagons converted from the flats wagons - they were slight smaller and have lots of joint hiding bracing. Once saw the entire nose and cab of a Class 45 / 46 sticking out of the top of one of these on its way to Sheerness for conversion to "re-bar" - very sad Photo of one at the usual Paul Barlett site http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p59112720.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazza Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Gents, if you contact Appleby Model Engineering they Produce a 4mm Sheerness Scrap Wagon and Transfers as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Gents, if you contact Appleby Model Engineering they Produce a 4mm Sheerness Scrap Wagon and Transfers as well Have they re-started making stuff again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 Gents, if you contact Appleby Model Engineering they Produce a 4mm Sheerness Scrap Wagon and Transfers as well Hi All, The Appleby kit is for the JX029A dia wagons with the 'short' body, No's. 3100 - 3129 running on Schleirien bogies. Roger ( IIUC? ) is looking at doing the body style for dia JX029b/c/d wagons, that are 'full length' bodies and in the following No's 3130 - 3139 JX029B running on Schleirien bogies .. 3140 - 3149 JX029C running on Gloucester Lightwieght MK4 bogies .. and .. 3150 - 3159 JX029D running on Gloucester Cast bogies. The 'hide the joint behind the rib' is a great idea if it means these will hit the tool stage and then the shelves and I would be up to having a few 029C & 029D versions ( converted a 029A to A 029B by rebuilding the last panel section at each end to extend it to the bufferbeam on an Appleby kit ). One request though please Roger, Could we have a fold up etched sub frame for the bogie with detailed sides to attach please, , makes it so much easier to build for everyone Mike P.S. any more news on the 'Sea Urchin' at all ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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