Early Risers.

[Gwiwer]

Good morning all from a bright and intermittently sunny Hill of Strawberries.   
 

Breakfast has been provided by SWMBO who reports that her shoulder has improved somewhat overnight.  A quick flick with the duster and a trip around with the vacuum cleaner are now in order. 
 

We can’t have the place looking untidy when all the folks don’t turn up later for drinks and nibbles to mark my 63rd lap of the sun   

 

I was taught logarithms and the rest. I won’t say I learned them!  Long workings too because “what if you didn’t have a set of log tables?”  
 

How many of todays students would understand BODMAS or SOHCAHTOA I wonder?  
 

I must suck. Aftet which muggercoffee awaits and I am told I must also attire myself in the kilt later for celebrations. I might even post a photo   

 

Be good until I return. 

[AndrewC]

Happy solar orbit completion day Rick. 

[southern42]

' morning all from red dragon land.

 

Yesterday, I started to watch the the clouds coming in, first a bit of mackerel sky while doing my bike ride on the spot, followed by some stratus clouds in the distance.  While waiting for the roast chicken to cook   ,  the sun had swung round and, below the still distant stratus cloud, a long strip of the Irish Sea, which is not normally noticeable, was brightly lit up. That I had to stop and look at.  By nightfall, large black clouds were heading our way, with hopes that they may water the plants but apparently not.  A job for, today, then.  

 

A bit breezy, now, but the cloud has broken up enough for the sun to get through.  Bike ride looks promising.  Some jobs to do and I want to get some m*d*ll*ng in this afternoon, only a headboard but I have probably spent a disproportionate amount of time on it.  So long as it looks OK.  The problem started when I realised part of the headboard was a metal plate not a wooden board and tried to get the relief to show up on an 11mm strip of paper...    Fun and games.

 

Time for a mugadecafsomething.

 

Fitt  and   Elfie back in their stride.

Take care and play safe.

_________

Best wishes

Polly

 

PS  Happy Birthday, Rick.  Have a great day.

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by southern42

[NGT6 1315]

Cheers all. Something seems to have upset my stomach last night, resulting in poor sleep and similarly poor mood.

 

Still, happy birthday, Rick!

 

[Tony_S]

39 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

 

How many of todays students would understand BODMAS or SOHCAHTOA I wonder?  

All of them hopefully. Key Stage 2 and 3 National  Curriculum. To avoid the necessity for BODMAS one would certainly learn about postfix notations but I didn’t teach that until I was teaching A level students (and it wasn’t in maths). 

[Coombe Barton]

1 minute ago, Tony_S said:

All of them hopefully. Key Stage 2 and 3 National  Curriculum. To avoid the necessity for BODMAS one would certainly learn about postfix notations but I didn’t teach that until I was teaching A level students (and it wasn’t in maths). 

They should, but they don't

 

A commonly displayed 'puzzle' on FB is:
 

6 ÷ 2(1 + 2) = (or something like that)

 

There are vociferous arguments - Loads don't recognise that the 2 before the bracket is part of the bracket and should be calculated first. That's the trouble when calculators took over from mathematics. I often have to say, "Maths is not just about sums".

[JohnDMJ]

 

 

I have a (currently furloughed) colleague who says he doesn't need maths. Yet day in, day out he's allegedly counting the items he's packing!!

 

3 hours ago, bbishop said:

I still use logarithms, albeit on my calculator.  I work out "to the power of" by taking the log of the number, multiplying by the power, and using the "e to the x" function to take the antilog.

 

In a rush to the LAS, Bill

 

56 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

I was taught logarithms and the rest. I won’t say I learned them!  Long workings too because “what if you didn’t have a set of log tables?”  

 

 

How many of todays students would understand BODMAS or SOHCAHTOA I wonder? 

 BODMAS and SOHCAHTOA  invoke memories!

 

Logarithms: reach for the Groan button NOW!

 

As the species were leaving the Ark, Noah was wishing them well with the phrase: 'go forth and multiply'.

 

As two snakes slid past, they retorted "we are adders and can not multiply".

 

A few years later, Noah was wandering around checking on his former cargo when he came across a very large colony of adders. Isolating those who had been on the Ark, he challenged them how there were now so many when they had said they couldn't multiply.

 

Their response:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(as you've probably guessed by now)

We used logarithms!

 

Hat, coat, groan and cringe buttons ....

[AndrewC]

23 minutes ago, Coombe Barton said:

They should, but they don't

 

A commonly displayed 'puzzle' on FB is:
 

6 ÷ 2(1 + 2) = (or something like that)

 

There are vociferous arguments - Loads don't recognise that the 2 before the bracket is part of the bracket and should be calculated first. That's the trouble when calculators took over from mathematics. I often have to say, "Maths is not just about sums".

There is some rather frightening psychological manipulation that goes on behind those FB posts that have questions like that, or ones with 3 bananas = 30, etc. They are basically micro IQ tests to determine if/how to direct targeted advertising or political persuasion at the person that takes the “test”.

 

Get the correct answer and you are regarded as too intelligent and observant to be swayed by targeted advertising or manipulation. 

Get the answer that would be correct if the number of shoes or bananas in the bunch didn’t change and you are intelligent but not fully observant. You can be manipulated with subtle advertising. 

Get the wrong answer from the maths but correct observation, and you are less educated but observant. Directed advertising will be more direct but play to your lack of education. 

Wrong on all counts but close (as in you tried), you are a gullible twit and prime pickings. 

Totally backasswards and miles off, means you were taking the urine and your result gets tossed from the data harvesting. 

 

Fun eh. 

[Joseph_Pestell]

2 minutes ago, JohnDMJ said:

 

 

 

 SOHCAHTOA 

 

 

 

Some Old Hulks Carry A Huge Tin of Ale (P. Gaillard, 1970).

[Tony_S]

Happy birthday Rick. 

[Tony_S]

3 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

Totally backasswards and miles off, means you were taking the urine and your result gets tossed from the data harvesting. 

Henceforth I shall answer pie or 42

[Kingzance]

Please forgive my failing to recognise your event today in an earlier post Rick, have a good one anyway.

[BSW01]

1 hour ago, Kingzance said:

heading that list might well be an album that includes tracks by the delightful Ms Ronstadt called FM. 

 

 

I've got this album, also one of my favourites. 

[AndrewC]

4 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

Henceforth I shall answer pie or 42

Huckleberry pie I hope. 

 

42 is always the right answer to life the universe and everything. Of course you already knew that as you also know where your towel is. You’re a real hoopy Frood. 

[The Stationmaster]

Morning all,

 

Many happy returns and many more of them to young Rick.

 

Lots of high cloud out there today but teh sun has managed to make a few holes in it although not many more are forecast.  GDB don't be surprised if your point comes from Guilford and not Cornwall as the other KMRC branch has been opened up for mail order purposes in order to cope with demand (which might explain why they can supply what has become an increasingly rare commodity?).   As I don't know what's in any albums of the musical kind I have no favourites at all - I have somewhat eclectic taste when it comes to music - not all that dissimilar from KZ's in many respects and I have enjoyed a lot of the things linked on CB's blog.

 

Sorry to hear that Natalie has been upset by someone's posts on here and I hope she doesn't run away from our little corner of the forum.   Regrettably because its all 'remote' some folk tend to shoot from the hip on the 'net and while many no doubt say exactly what they are thinking of at a particular point in time and press the 'send' button all too quickly.  That, alas, is electronic life, as is the way it attracts brain dead idiots who don't bother to read what has gone before in a thread before they repeat it or before they spout total nonsense. (which Natalie very definitely doesn't in her chosen subject areas).

 

Back to earth and unusually we had lamb chops for dinner last night - unusual because over the past 4-5 weeks we've had them on Sunday.  Today we are having roast chicken instead, no doubt back to sausages tomorrow but that might depend on the morning's visit to Sister Diabolical and her advice instructions.

 

Have a good day one and all and stay safe.

 

 

[BSW01]

Good afternoon everyone 

 

Late up on (stop sniggering at the back) this morning, so a late breakfast was had. The weather is a bit dull at the moment, but the sun looks like it's about to break through the clouds. 

 

I've just watered the garden and im now sat in the workshop about to start working on the turntable indexing table. 

 

Happy birthday Rick. 

 

Stay safe, stay sane, enjoy whatever you have planned for the day, back later. 

[Tony_S]

8 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

14 minutes ago, Tony_S said:

 

Huckleberry pie I hope. 

I am not actually sure if I have eaten huckleberry pie. During our visit to Nova Scotia and Newfoundland we sampled quite a few pies with blue berries that weren’t always called blueberry.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Tony_S

[grandadbob]

Happy Birthday Rick and many more of them, I will raise a glass to you later. 

 

The car has been washed and so have I in the process. (bloody hose came apart)  It badly needed washing  (I didn't) but my shoulder is now complaining somewhat.  I think that's enough exercise for today.

 

I learnt about logarithms and much other mathematical stuff at school, none of which (apart from the basics)  was any use whatsoever to me  in my chosen career and is now mainly forgotten after 54 years.  Had I taken a different path then it may well have come in useful.

 

My musical tastes are very varied ranging from some classical, folk, a hint of country but mainly rock, soul and blues. I would be pushed to compile a list of "favourites" as it would be quite long.

Edited May 17, 2020 by grandadbob

[PhilJ W]

Afternoon all from Estuary-Land. It was morning when I started reading the last two and a bit pages. Happy birthday Rick and many more of 'em.

3 hours ago, Happy Hippo said:

I think you will find that this occurred because some of the membership of the GOG wanted a Facebook page, but the Management Committee wouldn't sanction it.  So the rebels made the point with their the Not the Gauge O Guild Group.

 

Of course, the Management Committee then  decided that perhaps they'd better get out of the 19th Century, and stop scratching their quills on parchment in favour of something a bit more up to date, so created The Gauge O Guild Group.

 

Edit:

 

One wonders whether you have individuals posting the same stuff on both these groups, WT, RMW, and any number of other model railways forums that they frequent.

 

 

I noticed that the 'official' group despite having fewer members has 50% more posts. I just wonder how many are relevent to the subject in hand. 

16 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

 

Totally backasswards and miles off, means you were taking the urine and your result gets tossed from the data harvesting. 

 

Fun eh. 

I'll have to remember that so 42 and Pi it is. (Or in HH's case pie.)

[Coombe Barton]

Many happy returns, Rick

[tigerburnie]

Happy Birthday Rick.

Maths...…………..learned it all at school and college and barely ever used it again in my working life, if I needed to know anything, it was in a book , I did not have either the time nor inclination to work out on a bit of paper what size cable I needed for a given supply or work out the fuse rating for a motor. A lot of what I did need to know to earn a living was not taught in a class room. A lot of education is written by educationists who never actually worked in industry or commerce, so the over concentration on theory and formulae has to be unlearnt, when given a graduate, it usually took me around a year to re-educate them for what is actually needed, it took me considerably longer I guess to get the experience level required. The sad thing is with the loss of industry in the UK the loss of those skills will probably never come back, when I worked in the machine tool industry there were hand and machining skills that have gone forever, yes CNC machines did do a lot of the work, but it was those men's skills that built the CNC machines, they did not re-produce by themselves. Watching a craftsman hand building an Aston Martin at the old Newport Pagnell factory was very different from watching a robot knock out panels at the Toyota plant, did the same job, but a huge difference in the finished product.

[PhilJ W]

Tony, its all explained here.

https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-is-a-huckleberry

[Tony_S]

8 minutes ago, PhilJ W said:

Tony, its all explained here.

https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-is-a-huckleberry

Just checked, our jam from Newfoundland is partridgeberry jam. 

[Tony_S]

As new entrants to teaching needed at least C (now a number) grades at GCSE, Aditi’s former college insisted that all staff without such a qualification took numeracy and literacy tests. This included people like Aditi with O levels not GCSE. The college would not budge on this. I think Aditi was cross that she got 99% on literacy. I suspect she would have argued that the mark scheme was wrong. 

[tigerburnie]

Top 10 albums is a big ask, I've tried to pick key albums as my mood can change the choices

On Campus by John Lee Hooker was the first album I got for Christmas

Ummagumma by Pink Floyd, I was at the Mothers club when part of this album was recorded

Liege and Lief by Fairport Convention an album that was a large part of the inspiration for a band I was with at the time.

8 by the Chieftains was another folk album I still play a lot, there was a thought to learn to play the fiddle at one time, but it never happened

Untitled by the Byrds is an album I have bought several times, having worn out the original vinyl one

Self titled first album by the Rolling Stones the second album I got for Christmas

Tapestry by Carole King, still I think the best album by a singer songwriter I have ever heard.

Easy Rider soundtrack by various artists, this film had quite an effect on me and probably still does, the music stands up more to modern scrutiny that the film though

Brother in Arms by Dire Straits as fine an example of the guitarists work as any

Diamond Life by Sade, a singer I can listen to over and over again.

 

Nearly made it includes the likes of Ian Dury and the Blockheads New Boots and Panties, Stoosh by Skunk Anansie  and Debut by Bjork all fill an alternative mood slot, I was watching some of Bjork yesterday on youtube, she has one heck of a voice, even if the material is a tad whacky at times.