RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Update: 6 pages: recent news, including photos of Kernow Beattie and HM Stove R, CAD images of Olivia’s EM1 and Realtrack 144 Dalby Wood: 10 pages: Derek Wood describes the Warley club’s 50s-60s OO roundy roundy Building a gas turbine: 6 pages: Mike Wild describes the build of the Silver Fox kit of 18000 – model and prototype photos. Hatton Parkway: 6 pages: Ian Morton adds the finishing touches to the HM N gauge project layout. A tale of two huts: 4 pages: Phil Parker describes the construction of Cooper Craft and Wills huts. Buildings and Structures: 4 pages: Phil Parker outlines the various available options for 4mm. Scalescenes country pub – another building to construct from the virtual pen of John Wiffen Hornby Post: 2 pages of letters. Horsley: 8 pages: Colin Chisem describes his 30s SR based OO layout. Reviews: 17 pages, includes Bachmann OO 03 and N Mk1s, Hornby L1 and Hawksworths, plus two pages on real 03s. DCC: 3 pages: Paul Chetter examines options for adding sound to Hornby’s 4MT Pilmoor: 8 pages: Paul Bolton describes a change of period on the Oresmby Hall group’s OO layout. Railway Realism: 5 pages: Evan Green-Hughes outlines post war developments in the Gas Turbine field on British Railways Next issue includes Malham and Llanwddyn, available 12th November Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Mine just dropped through the letterbox too. The pre-production shots of the Stove R look good - think one will have to be ordered. Looks like a good issue - lots to read. Looking forward to getting to the Horsley pages. Flicking through I stopped at Ian Morton's Parkway article as photo 4 on page 35 jumped out at me. Nicely adapted bridge from Scalescenes but a major error in construction.... The wide grey band going across the top of the bridge deck and up the parapet walls is a nicely printed expansion joint. This should not be mid-span as the bridge will fall down! Joints are typically either over supports on multi-span structures or about a metre into the abutment / bank seat structure at one or both ends. Perhaps John Wiffen should include notes on this in the bridge kit instructions. I keep thinking about writing an article about modelling bridges as there are so many out there on layouts that would, in real life fall down. It's a pity that with so much attention paid to the tiniest details on stock and track that major flaws exist in other 'non-railway' areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 8, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Whoops - I did a search before posting and 45156's thread on the same issue didn't show up, strange :-/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 Flicking through I stopped at Ian Morton's Parkway article as photo 4 on page 35 jumped out at me. Nicely adapted bridge from Scalescenes but a major error in construction.... The wide grey band going across the top of the bridge deck and up the parapet walls is a nicely printed expansion joint. This should not be mid-span as the bridge will fall down! Joints are typically either over supports on multi-span structures or about a metre into the abutment / bank seat structure at one or both ends. Perhaps John Wiffen should include notes on this in the bridge kit instructions. Oops! TBH I put them over the join where I doubled the length. It seemed like a good idea at the time, guv! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 I keep thinking about writing an article about modelling bridges as there are so many out there on layouts that would, in real life fall down. It's a pity that with so much attention paid to the tiniest details on stock and track that major flaws exist in other 'non-railway' areas. Railway civil engineering covers a multitude of tasks and specialities. While the P Way gets all the glamour, the "Works & Jerks" people in the civils offices were just as crucial. RMWeb is hot on superb track construction, we all think we know what an embankment or a cutting looks like, and we all admire Ribblehead Viaduct, but model bridges and similar structures are a bit more by-guess-and-by-God. Any efforts to improve our knowledge will surely bear fruit. If you have the time, Chris, just do it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Oops! TBH I put them over the join where I doubled the length. It seemed like a good idea at the time, guv! Sorry to spot it after you've finished it Ian! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ian Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 Sorry to spot it after you've finished it Ian! As the saying goes, you learn something every day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 Arrgh! another article detailing the build of a weighbridge and office - something else that's missing from Summat Colliery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 8, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Sorry to spot it after you've finished it Ian! Do you have an opinion on this book? It's the only one I know of that specialises on bridge construction for modellers. I'm no civil engineer but I've seen some constructions on model railways over the years that look structurally improbable to me, mind you I'd say the same about Brunel's 1:1 scale bridge at Maidenhead. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bridges-Modellers-Illustrated-Record-Railway/dp/0860932265/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286538699&sr=8-1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Do you have an opinion on this book? It's the only one I know of that specialises on bridge construction for modellers. I'm no civil engineer but I've seen some constructions on model railways over the years that look structurally improbable to me, mind you I'd say the same about Brunel's 1:1 scale bridge at Maidenhead. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bridges-Modellers-Illustrated-Record-Railway/dp/0860932265/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286538699&sr=8-1 It's not a book i've seen but the cover looks promising. The main thing when building bridges is to look at the real ones all around us. Take lots of photos and you'll soon work out what all the bits are. The tricky bit is knowing what sot / size is suitable for different periods / vehicle loadings. Despite what many modellers think the Wills cast iron victorian bridge WILL NOT take mainline locos . Think I'll drop a line to Mike Wild asking if he's interested in a series of bridge articles. From my time on site building bridges I've a few interesting photos that could add interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 08221 Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 Les Wood - the author of the book you spotted on Amazon - used to design bridges for BR back in the 1970's and 80's. I remember the book coming out and getting some good reviews at the time. He used to give me a lift to the Milton Keynes MRS weekly meetings when I was a teenager! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2010 Les Wood - the author of the book you spotted on Amazon - used to design bridges for BR back in the 1970's and 80's. I remember the book coming out and getting some good reviews at the time. He used to give me a lift to the Milton Keynes MRS weekly meetings when I was a teenager! With that background I would guess the book is well worth getting then - can't get better than a bridge book written by a bridge designer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2mm Andy Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 The book is definitely worth getting - it consists mainly of a series of photos and drawings of different types of bridge under and over railways. Plenty of information for the modeller. A couple of my colleagues at work (railway bridge engineering office) have copies on their desks as reference for dealing with the real bridges! Andy (Civil Engineer specialising in Railway Bridges) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Zero Gravitas Posted October 8, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2010 This isn't a complaint - it's just something running round at the back of my mind... Didn't Horsley be used to be called something else (Taperley, Tashley - or something else beginning with T) and was in another magazine some time back? It's a lovely layout and really invokes the feel of the railway within the landscape (rather than a railway with some landscape built around it), but I've just a nagging feeling of deja vu... Best Regards, Zero Gravitas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Posted October 9, 2010 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Just read the article on the 18000 article, nice to see an alternative to the main RTR companies getting some time. Out of interest, how feasable is it to fit the silver fox kit to a ViTrains class 37 chassis? I realise it's designed for the Bachmann one but as a cheaper alternative, would it work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Chambers Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 This isn't a complaint - it's just something running round at the back of my mind... Didn't Horsley be used to be called something else (Taperley, Tashley - or something else beginning with T) and was in another magazine some time back? It's a lovely layout and really invokes the feel of the railway within the landscape (rather than a railway with some landscape built around it), but I've just a nagging feeling of deja vu... Best Regards, Zero Gravitas Yup, twas "Tapley" IIRC and was GWR.Still, a superb layout and still looks to be now.Captures the "Pendon" look if I may use that comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 45156 Posted October 10, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2010 Whoops - I did a search before posting and 45156's thread on the same issue didn't show up, strange :-/ I think I know what happened there - I started the post, and then had a problem with the router - PC link, and I had to do a reconnect which so I think that after that happened, my post, though started first, was posted second! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted October 10, 2010 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2010 I think I know what happened there - I started the post, and then had a problem with the router - PC link, and I had to do a reconnect which so I think that after that happened, my post, though started first, was posted second! Ah right, being the kind of person that grumbles (to myself) about folk posting before searching I was feeling a bit of a pillock for doing it myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted October 12, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2010 It's not a book i've seen but the cover looks promising. The main thing when building bridges is to look at the real ones all around us. Take lots of photos and you'll soon work out what all the bits are. The tricky bit is knowing what sot / size is suitable for different periods / vehicle loadings. Despite what many modellers think the Wills cast iron victorian bridge WILL NOT take mainline locos . Think I'll drop a line to Mike Wild asking if he's interested in a series of bridge articles. From my time on site building bridges I've a few interesting photos that could add interest. Update: Dropped a note to Mike Wild at Hornby Mag and he's agreed to a series of articles on structures - bridges, walls etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted October 13, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2010 Yup, twas "Tapley" IIRC and was GWR.Still, a superb layout and still looks to be now.Captures the "Pendon" look if I may use that comparison. Ah, so it wasn't just me - I thought it looked familiar. Lovely looking layout, though, with a great sense of spaciousness and that railway-in-the-landscape feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted October 14, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2010 My copy arrived yesterday, nice to see my first product review for the mag in print. Will let you work out which it was... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted October 15, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2010 Too easy Graham - something southern maybe ..... with (GM) at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 15, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 15, 2010 My copy arrived yesterday, nice to see my first product review for the mag in print. Will let you work out which it was... I think the initials sort of give it away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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