Pete Harvey Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Any pictures Bob? Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) I have got pictures from today....but asked not to post - Phoenix Railtours condition. Edited January 18, 2011 by Mod6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GraemeWatson Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2011 Dropping a new loco is an expensive way to earn your £250 on "You've Been Framed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZjr Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 My RailExpress arrived today and there is a close shot of '012 on page 5. Obviously can't post it die to copyright though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GraemeWatson Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2011 Is that the Feb issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZjr Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 It is, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium GraemeWatson Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2011 Excellent. Will be picking mine up tomorrow, cheers. I guess it's a pre-shipment shot? It's been quite fun following the ship on the Internet, a bit like Jurassic Park 2 waiting for the T-Rex to arrive... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZjr Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 A lovely shot of it's bent chassis on the road trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 So.............Whats happening then.????? Is it going back to the States, does anyone know what decision has been arrived at as to its destination. I note the Beluga Endurance is still in port in Rostok(Germany). Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2011 So.............Whats happening then.????? Is it going back to the States, does anyone know what decision has been arrived at as to its destination. I note the Beluga Endurance is still in port in Rostok(Germany). Bob REx suggests that it's likely to go back to the US for component recovery - but awaiting transport. Cheers, Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZjr Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 It doesn't seem to look too bad in those telephoto pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2011 It doesn't seem to look too bad in those telephoto pictures. There are links to much better pictures further back in the thread, whcih clearly show the state of damage. Andi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 It doesn't seem to look too bad in those telephoto pictures. Try putting a straight edge along its roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 As Andi says, look back in the thread for links to some better photos. example..... Link to photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 19, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2011 Talking to an ex railway engineer friend (with many current contacts) what seems to have happenned is that the chains broke at one end and that end dropped and hit the deck hard (the left hand end in the picture I saw). This appears to ahve bent the frame at the end of the shallow section above the bogies which would be the obvious point. The also explains why there are some wheelsets that can be used to repair No 9. Hope this is of interest. Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 ........what seems to have happenned is that the chains broke at one end and that end dropped and hit the deck hard (the left hand end in the picture I saw). This appears to have bent the frame at the end of the shallow section above the bogies which would be the obvious point. ....... Note that it's also bent at the other end. In the photos, it's appears that the cab at that end noticeably droops down too. So the loco is bent in two places. Is that a result of the impact shock passing through the frame causing failure at the other lifting point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 20, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 20, 2011 Note that it's also bent at the other end. In the photos, it's appears that the cab at that end noticeably droops down too. So the loco is bent in two places. Is that a result of the impact shock passing through the frame causing failure at the other lifting point? That woulkd make sense. The weakest points will be at the inner end of the the bogies where the frame has to thin to clear the bogies and the heaviest part is the engine in the centre. I remember seeing class 56 frames on accommodation bogies at Doncaster before the engines were placed on. They were built with a distinct upward camber that straightened out when the engine was put in the frames. I suspect that the weight of the engine block kept the centre section moving down after the front bogie had hit the ground. Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsOatcake Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 We needs a silencer failure on one of these loco;s I saw 70008 this morning and it was giving it some aggro as it moved off with 4M45. so I wonder what it would be like without a silencer fitted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted January 24, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2011 Dave, do you know if its planned to run again Friday this week.? Bob 70011 on Avonmouth - Rugeley today Bob. 70012 has been written off. I have photos from "a source" (a lot closer and better than the Internet ones) and, "Ouch!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60026to Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 70011 was stabled with 3 FL 66s at Stoke Gifford Yard yesterday at around 13:45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 70011 on Avonmouth - Rugeley today Bob. 70012 has been written off. I have photos from "a source" (a lot closer and better than the Internet ones) and, "Ouch!" Dave, I couldnt get out today...but my pal went over to Crewe to see 70008, succesfully. I have heard a rumour......Brush are to be used take the power unit out of 70012, and put it into 70005. Is this complete B.....x, or is there an ounce of truth here. Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsOatcake Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Not sure why brush would be needed to do this. As with a 45 tonne road crane you can lift the engine and alternator set. without paying Brush the expense of hiring a workshop for the use of an overhead crane. But guess only time will tell. anyway 70008 was on the 4L92 Ditton Felixstowe so should worked the 4M45 Felixstowe-Ditton tomorrow 70011 worked the 6M55 Portbury-Rugeley and 4V57 return today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wherry Lines Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Does 005 have engine issues already? I would have thought that there will be some engine damage to 012. Fractured parts etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big T Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 My source has told me that 70009 has seized, and is now on a wheel skate....??? Bob Correct seized bearings. It was working to Stoke Gifford and had to go back to Newport apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsOatcake Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Having said that. I've jsut looked through times in the big mystical box and sure enough there is a 70 from Midland road to Brush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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