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I sense a cross-over to the unusual layouts threads. Willy Wonka's chocolate factory as a rail served industry anyone? ... milk tankers, liquid chocolate tankers, open wagons loaded up with sweets. Oompa-Loompas instead of penguins.

 

Then of course the Cadbury factory in Bournville was rail served, with very distinctive industrial locomotives.

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I sense a cross-over to the unusual layouts threads. Willy Wonka's chocolate factory as a rail served industry anyone? ... milk tankers, liquid chocolate tankers, open wagons loaded up with sweets. Oompa-Loompas instead of penguins.

 

Then of course the Cadbury factory in Bournville was rail served, with very distinctive industrial locomotives.

 

indeed, the canal and railway lay next to each other, my plans for future railways do actually include Bournville.

 

there is a scale model of the factory and it's canal and sidings, but it is a very very small scale.

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Then of course the Cadbury factory in Bournville was rail served, with very distinctive industrial locomotives.

As was the Fry's chocolate factory at Keynsham. One regular visitor was the GWR Terrier "Portishead".

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A man lying down with a newspaper over his face is a nice touch, but I've seen one otherwise excellent layout that has half a dozen of them spread around the place. It looks as though there's a serial killer on the loose, with a quirky 'trademark'.

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Whitewashed cattle wagons (with black and white cows in the yard!), on the other hand, are common errors, not cliches.

 

Sorry, Am I missing something here? What are the errors with whitewashed cattle wagons and black and white cows in the yard.

Maybe I can see that black and white cows are dairy cows and would only take the train for their final trip to the great pasture in the sky but I can't see the problem with the whitewashed cattle wagons. Nearly all pictures I've seen of cattle wagons in the pre-WWII era have whitewash splashed rather haphazardly on them.

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Sorry, Am I missing something here? What are the errors with whitewashed cattle wagons and black and white cows in the yard.

Maybe I can see that black and white cows are dairy cows and would only take the train for their final trip to the great pasture in the sky but I can't see the problem with the whitewashed cattle wagons. Nearly all pictures I've seen of cattle wagons in the pre-WWII era have whitewash splashed rather haphazardly on them.

I believe we have been told that whitewash ceased to be used as a disinfectant before 1920, apparently because it wasn't very good for the next lot of animals to use the truck, and black and white cows (Friesian/Holstein breeds) were not a common sight in the UK until the 1950s. I am not quoting references, because I cannot, but I think these are the generally accepted wisdoms.

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-between this and the 'pet peeves' thread we should have successfully scared off any newcomers from taking up modelling as a hobby, and more specifically removed there possible interest in showing their stuff on here ??

 

I think there is a place for self-criticism of the type of what you might do differently in your next layout (whatever level you model at) but this and the other thread referred to are possibly so negative it just doesn't bear thinking about!

 

I honestly think some of the cliche items mentioned here draw in the 'non-railway' types into being interested in layout, but also the some of the views on the threads will drive people away who just want to have a 'no-stress' trainset.

 

Many folks just want to recreate a bygone era or something special to their memories without having to go through a whole 'nitpicking excercise' of what might be wrong/right/other. To myself historical research is a big part of the 'FUN' and some other aspects aren't, each to their own I'd say.

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I honestly think some of the cliche items mentioned here draw in the 'non-railway' types into being interested in layout, but also the some of the views on the threads will drive people away who just want to have a 'no-stress' trainset.

 

 

Do you think those types would ever join a model railway forum though Russ?

 

each to their own I'd say.

 

indeed but that kind of negates your moan about the thread doesn't it?

 

Cheers

 

Jim

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A man lying down with a newspaper over his face is a nice touch, but I've seen one otherwise excellent layout that has half a dozen of them spread around the place. It looks as though there's a serial killer on the loose, with a quirky 'trademark'.

 

Now there's an idea, a layout based on Midsomer county- a place that makes Juarez seem a nice spot for a quiet vacation.

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Do you think those types would ever join a model railway forum though Russ?

 

Cheers

 

Jim

 

Jim, quite a few "part one" extensions of "train sets" (as I term them: a big circle or oval, maybe double-tracked plus one station and a few rudimentary sidings) have popped up on here recently. I'll not embarrass anyone, the threads are easy to find and difficult to criticize as the owners are obviously happy.

 

Best, Pete.

 

 

 

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"All the layouts are stocked with rtr locos and rolling stock. Only the scenery is different..."

 

Not my words but I'll bet most of us are guilty as charged. The 1960's cliche of Great Wester branchline termini rule has simply re-formed into something else. Anyone hazard a guess as to what tomorrows cliche will be? 'Blue Pullmans' rule....?

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Jim, quite a few "part one" extensions of "train sets" (as I term them: a big circle or oval, maybe double-tracked plus one station and a few rudimentary sidings) have popped up on here recently. I'll not embarrass anyone, the threads are easy to find and difficult to criticize as the owners are obviously happy.

 

Best, Pete.

 

Then this thread has certainly not put them off then has it?

 

Cheers

 

Jim

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Exactly.

 

People are probably more likely to be put off by the top end modelling threads than a discussion like this. Not sure why that should be though

 

Cheers

 

Jim

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Jim SW :

People are probably more likely to be put off by the top end modelling threads than a discussion like this.
I doubt the people that would be put off ever enter "top end modelling threads". I'm certainly not put off by bottom end modelling threads even though I am not looking for 00/HO figures of Dr.Who and his Daleks at this particular moment.:lol:

 

I think most modellers, and indeed those people who buy things because they like them, do so because they admire quality workmanship. Just because I avoid building buildings and structures like the plague doesnt keep me away from threads by Peter Gravy Train and Ron Heggs, master builders both. I keep abreast of your threads too Jim. The scale of your modelling is mammoth.

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...- I think that 99% of the "I give up" comments are just hyperbole.

 

I'd think so, otherwise it infers that folk are only in the hobby to be the 'best', over and above all competition. IMO all that's necessary is to do the best that (preferably) you are able, or alternatively that you wish to.

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