Rob Pulham Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 I cut out much of the CCT last night and was really impressed with the quality of the cut and the small details To give an idea of the sizes involved the piece with the hole in to the left of the image above is 1mm wide Now I need to remove the sides from the cutting mat to see how I fared cutting 20 thou material. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted October 25, 2015 Author Share Posted October 25, 2015 I have spent quite a bit of time working on the NER CCT this weekend. Like a complete numpty, I forgot to take either drawing or photo so despite spending all that time cutting detail for the ends I had no idea what went where without them...... But the main body and the side details were another matter. Sadly white Styrene isn't the easiest to take photos of but you get the idea - It all went together just as I envisaged and the only thing that I changed was to ease a bit more from the ends of the inner sides/supports and the scored louvres which were very much an experiment to see what they looked like didn't cut it if you will pardon the pun 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 A session last night saw some of the end details added with the aid of the drawing - still some to go but I need to make up the chassis next because some of the detail overlaps onto the headstocks. I am still struggling to get decent photos with the white plastic.... I also had the brainwave of attempting to cut a roof using the Silhouette reasoning that if I scored lines where the planks would be on a wooden roof it would make the styrene easier to bend. I wasn't quite prepared for just how much a success it would be. The very nature of scoring it made it curl as soon as I removed it from the cutting mat. A bit more help from a couple of different sized rods and it fit perfectly. Another thought was to attempt to create the gutter by using my Olfa cutter deepen the score line adjacent to each edge and then use my hold and fold to bend it into shape - another success 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share Posted October 30, 2015 Although I haven't done any more construction I took advantage of an early finish to get a coat of primer on the pipe wagon so I squirted a bit at the CCT to make it a bit better to photograph. The coat is far from perfect because I still have some detail to add and will be re-priming it once I have it completed. I also made a start on painting the inside a dark colour so that you can't see white from the inside once the windows are in. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 (edited) I am still beavering away with the CCT having started looking at the underframe. While doing that from studying the drawing and the photo in Historic Carriage drawings (the only photo that I have found so far), I noticed that the wheels seem to have a different type of rim. There are similar wheel sets in various photos in North Eastern Railway Brake Vans by Ian Sadler (whom I was stood chatting to at Wakefield show last year but didn't know who he was until he had gone and a friend told me who he was). They are described as "cushioned" The wheels are also 10 spoke which I don't have in stock but I will get some from Slaters if my local model shop doesn't keep them. Anyway back to the "cushioned" wheels I reasoned that I could make some in the same manner that I have done balance weights - plasticard fronts backed by milliput. In the past I would have used my olfa circle cutter but it seemed much easier to have a go at drawing them and then cutting on the Cameo. 10 minutes later they were cutting. What isn't visible on the the wider rimmed ones is score marks for bolt heads. The idea of the two sizes is that two or three layers of the narrow rings will sit inside the rim of the wheel to bring it level with the front face and the wider ring with the bolt heads will overlap onto the wheel face slightly. In theory I suspect that it should be recessed into the face of the rim but I haven't the means to do it and the rings are only 9 thou thick. Edited November 1, 2015 by Rob Pulham 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K14 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 On the subject of 'cushioned' wheels, that sounds suspiciously like Mansell's Patent:— This is taken from p.132 of 'The Engineer' dated 24th August 1866, but there was an earlier summary on p.348 of the 12 Dec 1862 issue. I'm told that the split-spoked variant were much loved by the GER, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a solid-spoke version. Pete S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 On the subject of 'cushioned' wheels, that sounds suspiciously like Mansell's Patent:— This is taken from p.132 of 'The Engineer' dated 24th August 1866, but there was an earlier summary on p.348 of the 12 Dec 1862 issue. I'm told that the split-spoked variant were much loved by the GER, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a solid-spoke version. Pete S. Thanks Pete, That's brilliant, below is a crop from one of the photo's in the Sadler book posted only to illustrate the type - they certainly look similar if not quite the same. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 3 weeks away on holiday and then a busy week at work didn't left much in the way of inclination to do much in the way of modelling last week. That changed this weekend when I made a bit more progress on the NER CCT, adding more end details and the basic underframe. I even manage to made the door locking mechanism work on one end - the other end must have got a drop of glue in there somewhere I did attempt to cut some springs and hangers but the jury is still out as to whether they are succesful or not. Worst case I can see me doing a crash session in 3D modelling to see if I can get some printed. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancer1027 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Very good Rob. This is a very interesting project. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Before I went on my holiday I drew up and cut out parts for an early NBR 8 ton Van using this drawing as the basis, I believe that it's one of the Kenneth Wherret drawings that used to be found in the Model Railway News in years gone by. Sadly the weekend before last I forgot to take the main parts with me so I continued to work on the NER CCT as previously posted. On Friday I made sure that I packed the box with the parts in and managed to spend time getting the sides and ends prepared to go together over the weekend. The sides and ends are made up from 3 layers of 20thou with the hinges and plates cut from 10 thou. The beading is Plastruct 0.8mm half round rod. Before getting the Cameo cutter I had planned to scratch build one or two of these and I had even got as far as marking out a sheet of 1mm styrene for the sides and ends. With the aid the aid of the Cameo I now have a pair of vans in the same state as the photos above from two afternoons and evenings work. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) There is a thread here on RMweb called "it's grim up North" well last weekend it was.....at least in Bishop Auckland. At about 10am Chris said look out the window I did and it was snowing, then came the famous last words from me, don't worry it won't stick.... By mid afternoon this was the view.... And as the light was failing All told a good 5" inches fell. So that meant that we had to stay in and play. By the time I was ready to leave on Sunday here's where I had got to with the NBR Jubilee vans. Lastly I cut and curved a couple of roofs - one I scored with my Olfa cutter similar to the NER CCT roof that I did on the Silhouette the other I just curved with the rounded end of a Swan Morton knife handle. The second van isn't quite on it's wheels yet but it's not far behind. Edited December 14, 2015 by Rob Pulham 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) The silhouette bug has well and truly bitten.... Whilst looking through LNER wagons volume 3 for more details on the Jubilee vans that I built last week I realised that the match-board sided version is actually the same van and more importantly with the same hinge and strap details. In true Blue Peter fashion, here's one that I built earlier. My example being the Avery Tool van variant by Dragon Models. - Dragon also do the standard match-board sided van too (under the Celtic Connection banner). Seeing as I had Parkside NBR underframe goodies in stock, it seemed rude not to. So a quick change of the art work later and I had sides and ends drawn for a couple of examples. Then came four hours of cutting out. and a few hours of construction over the weekend giving this as the result. I now need to crack on and get them all detailed and up on their wheels but that will be the other side of Christmas now and may well depend on what goodies Santa brings. Oh the easily distracted...... Edited December 21, 2015 by Rob Pulham 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 The weekend was probably the most productive that I have had in modelling terms for months or so it seemed. With the success of the matchboard Jubilee vans I decided to have a go at assembling the body for an NBR (another NBR subject I know...... and I don't even model the NBR). Bogie CCT. I had noticed this while checking out prospective subjects in Historic carriage drawings volume 3 (the blue NPCS book page 57) and what appealed is that they made it to BR days and they got down at least as far as Bridlington (the photo accompanying the drawing was taken at Bridlington in 1953). I have had a go at this primarily as a prelude to having a go at a coach. And finally to to give an idea how big it actually is - this is it with the Jubilee van sat on top of it. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 While up north last week I managed the best part of four days and evenings at the bench which saw much progress on the Jubilee vans. So much so that I thought that I had the panelled pair complete apart from adding weight and sticking the roof's down. Hmmm, another look at the photos showed the lack of handrails across the ends...... The pair of matchboard versions are well on their way too but one still needs the end posts cutting and adding along with yet more bolt heads that I missed on the first pass. Despite using the cutter and Parkside underframe details I reckon that each van will have more than 20 hours of assembly by the time they are all ready for the paint shop. I am still struggling to take decent photos of the white plastic but her's where we are up to. The observant amongst you will have noticed the LNER plate peeking out from under the body - I had a tinker to see if I could draw on up and cut it successfully - reasoning that I could always get some etched from the art work if that didn't work. Since cutting those shown on 10 thou I tried again on 20 thou which gave much better results although in the final cut I removed the small lettering in the middle just keeping LNER and the number - I am still struggling to get a decent photo so you may have to wait until they are on one of the other vans. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 As happens sometimes I arrived at a point with the G5 that I needed to print off a couple of photos to make sure of details, so instead of going into the house from the workshop and doing it I made a start on my Teford best buy and before I knew where I was I had got to here. I hasten to add the match truck bodies were already cut out and folded up when I bought the kit. Rather astonishingly at this point the gear wheels all turn and mesh together making the crane actually work. Sadly the design of the support struts/rods that run from the rear of the crane to the end of the jib when soldered on will prevent the gears from turning unless I can come up with a different arrangement. The photo below of the GNR crane at Locomotion shows the support struts that I refer to above 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 11, 2016 Author Share Posted January 11, 2016 Aside from adding some lead to the two matchboard vans and gluing the roofs on the Jubilee vans are finished and ready for the paint shop. Next is the challenge of producing the "Return to Singer" transfers which I also have a plan to do them on the Silhouette. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not much progress in the way of modelling this week but I have managed to get a few items painted. The NBR vans And ain't always the way I have noticed a missing nut on the end of this one... The the Parkside Pipe wagon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 18, 2016 Author Share Posted January 18, 2016 I mentioned earlier that I had a cunning plan for doing the "Return to Singer" transfers that I need for these 4 vans. . On the first go the I and the U didn't come out so well so I made some adjustments and re-cut them. Getting a decent photo was a complete no, no of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 19, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 19, 2016 I mentioned earlier that I had a cunning plan for doing the "Return to Singer" transfers that I need for these 4 vans. . On the first go the I and the U didn't come out so well so I made some adjustments and re-cut them. Getting a decent photo was a complete no, no of course. So, what material is that ? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ooops sorry Andy, It's white laser decal paper - I had to change the contrast to grey to make it show up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Around meeting up with the guys at Shildon on Sunday I have managed to make good progress with getting the transfers on the Jubilee vans. Three down and one to go. I do still need to add running numbers to them all - that's what looks like a water mark on the van sides is - the glossy bit that awaits the number. Even now while looking at photos I keep seeing more details to add. Lastly I also got some transfers on the pipe wagon too. I still have some way to go with painting and weathering them all but they are coming on. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted January 25, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 25, 2016 Around meeting up with the guys at Shildon on Sunday I have managed to make good progress with getting the transfers on the Jubilee vans. Three down and one to go. I do still need to add running numbers to them all - that's what looks like a water mark on the van sides is - the glossy bit that awaits the number. Even now while looking at photos I keep seeing more details to add. Lastly I also got some transfers on the pipe wagon too. I still have some way to go with painting and weathering them all but they are coming on. Are those pipe loads homemade, if so, how. Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Hi Andy, I wish, no they are Skytrex cast resin Wagon loads, periodically they have them on special and I took advantage of a few some time back. Regards Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2016 Some fantastic and inspiring modelling on your thread Rob. Andy (Wagonbasher) pointed me in your direction, and I'm glad he did. I'm a relative newcomer to 7mm but am modelling the late BR steam period and the Southern lines around Bodmin. Different period and geography to yourself but you've given me a lot to think about. I'm particularly impressed with the results you've been getting from the Silhouette cutter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted January 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2016 I haven't looked in for a while Rob, and what a lot of stunning modelling I've missed! All the best, Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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