Rob Pulham Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 I had a small break from the CCT yesterday/this morning and did a bit more weathering on the Timber and Ore wagons. I then assembled them and took a few photos. I will ad a few more to my painting and weathering thread. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 With the Timber wagons off the bench I returned to the CCT. First I added the brake levers and guards Then the instructions said mount the Westinghouse cylinder centrally the drawing being 2D only showed it as being central across the V hangers not which side it sat so I found a square of brass that would mount across the floor void and then I though that perhaps the cylinder would be supported by straps so I made some up followed by a bit of pipework leading to the Westinghouse pump. Having done all that I may have it the wrong way around but it's not likely to be seen so it can stay as it is (mainly because I have had to resolder the vacuum cylinder back on once already due to the heat from solder the mounting plate in place melting the 70 degree solder that I mounted it with). Next I had a look at the spring hangers and initially I was a little confused because they come cat in pairs on a mounting block (see the bottom of the photo below). The problem being once you have things like truss rods and brake lever guards etc. soldered to the solebars there is no way on earth that the chunky mounting block will fit any where near - not to mention the rocking mechanism. My (rather tedious) solution has been to cut them with my piercing saw to make them fit on top/behind the solebars. Two down two more to go this evening...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Prism Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Rob - it's probably a bit too late now, but the horizontal part of the steps would benefit greatly from another layer of brass. Prototype steps were usually in the region of 2" to 2.5" thick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Rob - it's probably a bit too late now, but the horizontal part of the steps would benefit greatly from another layer of brass. Prototype steps were usually in the region of 2" to 2.5" thick. Thanks, I will see what I can do with that one - although I don't really want to take them off again if I can help it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 I haven't managed much time at the workbench recently but this week I managed a little. Sometime back I posted some home made vacuum pipes and someone asked for a step by step next time I made some. This is what was included in the kit - the whitemetal ones that is along with the fine beading wire that I use for creating the 'ribbing' I started by measuring and cutting some 50mm lengths of 0.7mm brass rod. I held each one in a pin vice with 25mm protruding and tucked one end of the beading wire down the small gap in the jaws of the pin vice. Next I wound the beading wire around the protruding wire keeping the strands tight against each other until I had around 5mm left without binding. Holding the end still attached to the reel tight I soldered the beading wire in place then snipped the end attached to the reel. Removing it from the pin vice I snipped and tidied the other end up and slipped a 10mm length of annealed microbore tube over the long end. I also drilled a hole in the end of a strip of scrap and soldered it over the other end. Cutting it back and rounding each end once it was soldered in place. Being the tight Yorkshireman that I am when I use pinheads for rivets I don't throw the shanks away. To create the ring around the top end of the tube I annealed a pin shank and wound it around the other end of the bound section on the long section (the end with the microbore tube on it). Finally snipping it off and soldering it in place. Next I bent the section of annealed tube to right angles and finally I cut a length of shrink tube and shrank it over the top. I have to confess I am not sure about the shrink tube and I may end up cutting it off..... The last pair of pipes will be a tad harder because they have taps on them and I need to work out the best way to represent them - Last night I had a brilliant idea on how to do it but I blowed if I can recall it today......... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I was away on holiday for most of October so the bench has been a bit quiet. It was my birthday while I was away and Chris bought me some wagon kits. This meant (and I am sure it wont come as any surprise to some) that when I got back instead of finishing the CCT I started one of the birthday wagons - This is another from Dragon models Celtic connection range (former Majestic models). I haven't taken any photos until now as the construction was similar to the CCT. The one change that I have made is that I tried to make the roof removable using the same method as the CCT but I couldn't get it to sit down properly and after trying re-rolling it a couple of times I gave up and soldered it on. This is the state of play and I hope to have it on it's wheels and pretty much finished with a fair wind tonight. Edited November 7, 2014 by Rob Pulham 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 What is it, Rob? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 What is it, Rob? Oops! - it's an NBR/LNER Avery tool van - now I will have to do a bit of editing...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Rob very nice build, but it looks like you have the end stanchions the wrong way around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Hi Peter, Well spotted - I have corrected it now - see below. Just to offer a little more background on these vans, as I understand it four of these vans were converted from the standard 8ton Jubilee Van for use by Avery's in order to service and maintain the many weighing scales in use at stations on the NBR. According to the information supplied with the kit they had workbenches, store cupboards and even a rivet stove installed - I am a little intrigued by the latter because there is no chimney. Back when I was a butcher we used Avery scales and they were maintained by Avery - sadly the guys came in an Escort van rather than an NBR Jubilee:) Here's where I got to on Thursday night. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 12, 2014 Author Share Posted November 12, 2014 A session last night saw the tool van finished. Strictly speaking I think that it should have screw couplings rather than three links but I didn't have any in and I can always change them later. In the instructions George makes mention of a chain and peg to hold the doors shut. I reasoned that a tool van might have something a bit more secure so I decided to make a couple of padlocks. This proved easier to say than to do - I had just nicely filed them to shape when one flew off into space so I put the other on one side in disgust. A couple of days later after turning the workbench and floor upside down I noticed the missing lock caught in the hem of my apron..... I then had a couple of unsuccessful attempts at soldering a loop on the top. But when I had finished adding the last bit's and pieces last night I decided to have one last attempt before abandoning the idea and to my surprise and delight each one soldered without problem. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Modelling time has been in short supply for two or three weeks due to me going on course for work next week and having quite a bit of pre-course studying to do. On Thursday night after I had go to the I am reading it but it's no longer going in stage I decided that I needed a bit of modelling to keep me sane. In an hour and a half at the bench I managed to all but finish the CCT. All I need to do now is work out where the three pipes go on each end, add them, blacken the couplings and it's ready for painting. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 The CCT and the tool van are now in the paint shop so last night also saw me make a little progress on the next item across the bench a Medley Models (NER Days as Steve now trades under) NER fish truck to diagram C1. The kit is a little agricultural in that the etches I believe are hand drawn with the tabs created as half etched circles. Which when you cut items from the etches leaves visible dimples. That said quite a bit of it is built up from layers so they can be placed inside to hide them. A plus point is that it's etched in nickel. The instructions had me head scratching so when I last saw Steve Hoyle I asked him to explain what he meant by making a middle layer up from parts included inside another. See below, apparently there was enough room on the etch for 8 of these so you have to make 2 of them up yourself. These build up in layers to give you the sides looking similar to the ends below A small error that I have discovered so far is that the coupling hook slot was only in one of the three layers that make up the ends so I had to drill and file them out once the layers were soldered together. Lastly a poor photo but it does contain brass buffer shanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Thanks for posting that - you are building quite an eclectic collection of wagons there - it'd be great to see them all together. There's quite a few tempting vehicles in the Dragon range so I'd be interested to hear your views on how well they go together. On another forum Adrian said he would like to see my wagon collection pictured together. I found a bit of time and head space to have a go at it yesterday. Once I got started I got a little carried away so I appologise in advance for the photo overload..... First up and purely because they were easier to get to I started with my LMS and constituents stock. It came as a little bit of a surprise just how much LMS stock I have given that I am mainly an LNER modeller hmm.... They represent quite a range of suppliers - Dragon Models (L&Y Bogie van, Caledonian bogie coal wagon and timber and ore wagons, S&D Horsebox - the latter 3 being part of the former majestic models range) Connoisseur (Milk van) Slaters (MR Slatted milk van, fruit van, 8 ton van, open wagon, cattle wagons, and brake van). Parkside (Brake van, meat van and corrugated end van) MMP (Glass wagon) 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Next up is my LNER and constituents based stock - not quite as many as the LMS stock but I have many more in the stash The suppliers not included in the earlier quote are MMP sadly David doesn't offer any LNER prototypes and Slaters who while they do a couple of LNER prototypes I don't seem to have finished any - I say this because I have a part built Alumina wagon in my shelf queens (which is the only Slaters LNER kit that I possess). Dragon Models (NBR Tank wagon - I also have an NBR floor cloth wagon but because it's in a box awaiting some home made transfers I forgot to include it.) Connoisseur( NER Implement wagon, MacL - I only picked up the traction engine at locomotion last weekend so it isn't chained on yet, LNER Refrigerator van, NBR Brake van, NBR tender truck, GER Sand wagon). Parkside (LNER Horsebox, LNER 10 ton vans, LNER Plate and Bolsters wagons, NBR 8 ton van, LNER steel hopper wagon and LNER fitted and unfitted cattle wagons). 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Great line-up Rob. You've bought a few Connoisseur kits off me so looking forward to seeing the builds! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Great line-up Rob. You've bought a few Connoisseur kits off me so looking forward to seeing the builds! Steve Thanks Steve, They went off to Santa, but of course not long to wait now! Edited December 9, 2014 by Rob Pulham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethashenden Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Everything looks good except the tractor on the Implement wagon. That's the sort of condition I'd expect to find it in in the 1980s, not the '30s. It's far too rusty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asa Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 A fine collection of wagons Rob,well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Everything looks good except the tractor on the Implement wagon. That's the sort of condition I'd expect to find it in in the 1980s, not the '30s. It's far too rusty. Well Gareth it looks like we will need to agree to disagree on that one I come from a long line of farmers (around 17 generations) and knowing first hand of how, many farmers never looked after equipment. Couple that with the fact that the 20's followed the austerity of the great war and the 30's were a major economic depression, I believe that there is every chance of the tractor being so rusty. I made a little more progress last night and now that I am laminating a few of the layers it's taking on a satisfying mass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Boucher Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 On another forum Adrian said he would like to see my wagon collection pictured together. I found a bit of time and head space to have a go at it yesterday. Once I got started I got a little carried away so I appologise in advance for the photo overload..... First up and purely because they were easier to get to I started with my LMS and constituents stock. It came as a little bit of a surprise just how much LMS stock I have given that I am mainly an LNER modeller hmm.... They represent quite a range of suppliers -Dragon Models (L&Y Bogie van, Caledonian bogie coal wagon and timber and ore wagons, S&D Horsebox - the latter 3 being part of the former majestic models range) Connoisseur (Milk van) Slaters (MR Slatted milk van, fruit van, 8 ton van, open wagon, cattle wagons, and brake van). Parkside (Brake van, meat van and corrugated end van) MMP (Glass wagon) What did you think of the MMP glass wagon. One of those is on my "wish list", but it looks like a pretty complex kit to assemble. What was your experience with it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Hi Mike, The MMP Glass wagon is an excellent kit - I have added a few more from the range to my stash. The advice that I would give is read and follow the instructions - I didn't, and having made an error I didn't have the confidence (at the time) to go back and correct it. This resulted in me putting it aside for about 18 months before coming back to it and subsequently finishing it. It still needs some black paint on some of the underframe fittings and a visit to the weathering shop at some point. There is a tremendous level of detail with MMP kits but everything fits as it should and they give a lot of pleasure for your money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Here's one that I forgot earlier - I built this sometime ago (Majestic Models NBR Floor Cloth Wagon - now in the Dragon Models range) but never posted any shots of it with some paint and transfers on. I planned to make some additional custom transfers so I popped it away in it's box and completely forgot about it... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 A "floor cloth wagon"? Whatever next? The GWR probably had one for J-cloths....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Pulham Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 A "floor cloth wagon"? Whatever next? The GWR probably had one for J-cloths....... Hi Jeff, Floor Cloth is the proper description for what most of us know as linoleum or lino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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