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Paul, the post seems to be delayed, or did you send them second class ? huh.gif

 

(It says 'This Collection is Empty').

Thanks I have made them available. I am having a problem making groups unavailable whilst collections are available - it is a Zenfolio thing! :( http://paulbartlett.zenfolio.com/eborstanmoreedge

 

There should be plenty of photos, there were a lot taken - I even had ONE person in the two days I was there ask if this would be OK!

 

Paul Bartlett

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Being there as an exhibitor for the full weekend, I have to agree with the many comments that whilst it wasn't a poor show (certainly above the standard of most other large shows over the last couple of years) it wasn't really a 'classic' that will stick in the memory... I agree there wasn't really a 'centre piece' layout that stood out above the rest, but that meant that several top-class layouts all got the attention they deserved as shown be the number of different layouts picked out as favourites by contributors to this thread. For me, 'St Marnock' and 'St Merryn' both got a lot of my attention, and also interesting to see that 'Wouldham Town' and our own 'Barrowfleet' despite both being 20+ years old still stand up in company of much younger layouts showing how advanced they were when they were built...

 

Regarding the balance of the show, I think most eras and propotypes were reasonably well covered (if you look properly there were nine diesel only layouts of which two were post-Privatisation), thinnest era was 'pre 1930' represented only by 'Tan-y-bwlch'. Trade covered all of the main bases reasonably well. York is (and while Mike remains in office always will be) more of a modellers show so smaller specialists will prevail and it never will be filled with identikit box shifters and second-hand for the bargain hunters. Perhaps there is scope for one of the better quality/better presented model shops such as Signal Box or Chelenham Model Centre but no more than one...

 

Scale wise, N-gauge was the weak link: Of the layouts; only 'Alston' got my attention, I'm afraid of the two big n-gauge layouts, one is to me bland and boring (and is run as more of a sales tool for it's owners business) while the other looks very worn and did not seem to run very well at all. As for trade coverage yes there was little to be had: unfortunately N Gauge Lines seems to be a pale shadow of what it was under previous ownership and there was little else save for some second hand on another stand (including a couple of items priced higher than NG Lines 'new' price!!)

 

Paul

 

 

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Paul, I have to agree with just about every point that you so ably put. As I've said, Barrowfleet still has it, and I agree with your sentiments about St. Marnock. Alston was very nice but I had to nearly twist myself silly to get a view of the viaduct. It would have been better to turn the layout 90 degrees and view from three sides as there was ample room.

As an N gauge modeller I did feel that the trade was weak in this scale.

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Second hand was thin but to be honest its for the kiddies. (In the real world by the time you have bought something, rewheeled, recoupled, added drawhooks, replaced buffers, repainted, retransferred etc etc you can get a RTR wagon for the same.

 

Depends what it is, I'd suggest; I think to glibly dismiss it all as 'for the kiddies' isn't really very charitable. As just one instance, many 80s Mainline and Airfix wagons have livery and lettering that are as good as current equivalents, far above the 'cack' you mention - and regardless of the cost comparison, a lot of folk enjoy making an honest item of stock from a humble basis. I wouldnt want to divert this thread further but if you cast around the forum, you'll find quite a few WB threads based on that premise.

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Interesting the comments about Barrowfleet and the great affection this layout seems to attract. I've rated it highly since first seeing it (Barrow on Soar I think it was) almost 20 years ago and every time I see it at a show, always think this will be the last chance to see it. I've been thinking that for about 15 years now and it's always a pleasure to see it again. Long may it continue!

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Interesting the comments about Barrowfleet and the great affection this layout seems to attract. I've rated it highly since first seeing it (Barrow on Soar I think it was) almost 20 years ago and every time I see it at a show, always think this will be the last chance to see it. I've been thinking that for about 15 years now and it's always a pleasure to see it again. Long may it continue!

Recent thinking has been that Hull 2012 which would be the layout's 21st birthday could also be it's farewell, however as Ian and James hinted, if verbal enquiries recieved last weekend turn in to firm invitations, it could go on for a while longer. Really the cut off will come when the stock (we are on a third generation of the industrial diesels) or the operators wear out (whichever comes first!)

 

Paul

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I think one reason why Barrowfleet is popular at exhibitions is that as well as being a good piece of modelling it is a model of something different.

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