dibber25 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 . I note that the Model Rail "Facebook" page states ; " ....... Note the much-improved body and cab shape, fine etched metal details and extra detail under the bufferbeam. ......." However, nothing regarding any changes to the much criticised roof. . "much-improved body and cab shape" It was the body and cab shape that was affected by the roof. The roof forms part of the body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 9, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2014 The roof forms part of the body. Pedantically, it doesn't, the body side plates are a seperate entity to the roof, although I know where you're coming from re the plastic moulding. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I should have said the roof forms part of the body MOULDING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 10, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 10, 2014 Now we've got that out of the way, what about the bodyside grills and mesh? Do they really protrude as implied by the posted images or is it just a consequence of the large size? Rail Exclusive's plans included "Body framing visible through new grills", which is somewhat different to what look like a completely new moulding with the grills protruding too far from the body and the mesh too large. If the only way to get the desired depth is to increase the protrusion, I'd stick with the previous arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) It shouldn't protrude much at all. See this pic: http://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/044-2013-swanage-railway-swanage-class-33-crompton-33108.jpg Edited January 11, 2014 by the-gog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I don't suppose the new version has its NEM coupler pockets mounted on close-coupling cams? Or is that still too much too hope for even from a continental manufacturer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Price has jumped a bit. Heljan original £79 Recent re-runs £89 Rex's proposed upgrade £99 This latest one £126 (non-MR versions £119?) Kernow says 8-pin plug (same as old model) so doubt anything has changed inside - bulb headcode? Hope it is spot on... Regards Igor Edited January 10, 2014 by Igor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 It shouldn't protrude much at all. See this pic: http://locoyard.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/044-2013-swanage-railway-swanage-class-33-crompton-33108.jpg Nice pic of Swanage, I take it that this photo was taken at around May time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Nice pic of Swanage, I take it that this photo was taken at around May time? I have no idea. It's not my photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I have no idea. It's not my photo. Oh right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Now we've got that out of the way, what about the bodyside grills and mesh? Do they really protrude as implied by the posted images or is it just a consequence of the large size? Rail Exclusive's plans included "Body framing visible through new grills", which is somewhat different to what look like a completely new moulding with the grills protruding too far from the body and the mesh too large. If the only way to get the desired depth is to increase the protrusion, I'd stick with the previous arrangement. Can't comment on what Rail Exclusives wanted or planned. This is the model produced by Heljan and as displayed at Warley last November. CHRIS LEIGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hope the price doesnt rise all that much. Im after one having had one class 33 as far north as County Durham - http://www.blackhatrailwaypictures.co.uk/p518203157 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strathyre Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Hope the price doesnt rise all that much. Im after one having had one class 33 as far north as County Durham - http://www.blackhatrailwaypictures.co.uk/p518203157 They regularly made it to York, singly or in multiple, on the Cliffe-Uddingston (by Glasgow) cement trains in the 1960s, being replaced there by, very often, a 40 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridwatcher Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) They made it to Glasgow on several occasions ....don't ask! I have a mate (very old!) who has a photo of a pair at Uddingston Cement terminal on the south side of Glasgow. How? Who knows, assume conducted? Edited January 16, 2014 by gridwatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 They regularly made it to York, singly or in multiple, on the Cliffe-Uddingston (by Glasgow) cement trains in the 1960s, being replaced there by, very often, a 40 Paul Concidentally, John Turner has uploaded a photo of 2x 33 at York in the 60s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/12266730184/ "A pair of Cromptons at York - D6525 & D6554 approach York station with the Uddingston (Lanarkshire) to Cliffe (Kent) cement train - 30/07/1962. What later became TOPS class 33s were regulars at York and south down the ECML with this working in the early 1960s. The BRC&W built diesels took over the southbound train at Clifton (York) and worked throughout to Kent." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Heljan just announced on their Facebook site that the first two retooled class 33 are in their warehouse ready for dispatch! So we will soon find out if they top notch or still lacking certain refinements. They also say 2 early class 26 with end doors and more Clayton's. They don,t say which liveries and numbers however. Nor have they posted photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 What about a new improved CEMFLO wagon to go with it ?????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Expensive month for me then just had the Class 23. Surprised Hornby haven't done an updated Cemflo yet, still I've got 15 Tri-ang ones there not too bad with a bit of detailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirey33 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Further info is that they will be 33002 in Dutch and 33033 in 3TG Construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 And blue and green ones will follow end of March. They have not wasted much time getting these out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 They have not wasted much time getting these out! I think most of the work had already been done when it went awry with Rail Exclusives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 This was sent out a little while back when asked about what was going on... It looks like it's been rushed out. I know RE were going to do seperate springs, brake cylinders and piping under the battery boxes. ---- Dear Mr Thanks for your recent communication regarding our Class 33 project. Whilst RAIL EXCLUSIVE is naturally disappointed by Heljan’s unsurprising intention to release its own versions of the Class 33, this does not immediately affect our own on-going project to produce an accurate 4mm scale model of the ‘Crompton’. Please draw your own conclusions as to why the Danish manufacturer is taking this course of action immediately after our legal dispute but some eight years after the original model was released. Whilst it is obvious that some of our original requirements will have been adopted by the Danish company, it is hoped that you, as a loyal RAIL EXCLUSIVE customer, will make a personal and detailed assessment before making any alternative purchasing decision. As you already know from our previous communication, the reason behind the stalling of the original commission was Heljan’s inability to meet our full specification, the level of accuracy and detail demanded, and the delivery promise. We have no reason to believe any of these circumstances have changed. Many thanks Jamie Walsh General Manager RAIL EXCLUSIVE New to stock – RfD un-numbered Class 47s and AK Interactive weathering enamels. Please visit our website for details. ---- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Photoes of the model of 33002 show the model without the high intensity light. She did run as such in Dutch but most of Dutch life was with. Thanks for the REX update. It would be good to know what else that REX intended that Heljan missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-gog Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Photoes of the model of 33002 show the model without the high intensity light. She did run as such in Dutch but most of Dutch life was with. Thanks for the REX update. It would be good to know what else that REX intended that Heljan missed. Does anybody know if REX intend to get somebody else to manufacture 33s to their detailed spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Yes, they say a European manufacturer. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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