Philip Jackson Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hi all I wan't surprised to find this while looking at the nrm shop: https://www.nrmshop.co.uk/models/product/311199/Hornby-flying-scotsman-model-wartime-black.html I'm quite happy with the BR Blue one I got a few years ago so I'll not be buying this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2011 Hi all I wan't surprised to find this while looking at the nrm shop: https://www.nrmshop.co.uk/models/product/311199/Hornby-flying-scotsman-model-wartime-black.html I'm quite happy with the BR Blue one I got a few years ago so I'll not be buying this one I think thats totally overpriced. It costs about the same as the Bachmann 'City' which was all new tooling.The Scotsman tooling has been around for years.You're paying for the black livery and certificate thats all.How many modellers will buy one ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Maybe not, but they are selling fast! Please note the image is a prototype and the production model will be as 103/502 is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Sorry Robin, think we both pressed return at the same time. The tooling has been altered to be the deflectorless version as it is now, and other changes have been made to make it the A3 in summer 2011 condition. There will only be 500 of this, and as for the pricing, I cannot comment as an employee of the museum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2011 Sorry Robin, think we both pressed return at the same time. The tooling has been altered to be the deflectorless version as it is now, and other changes have been made to make it the A3 in summer 2011 condition. There will only be 500 of this, and as for the pricing, I cannot comment as an employee of the museum. I assume some of the proceeds will be going to its upkeep though.If theres only 500 then collectors will snap them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Jackson Posted June 8, 2011 Author Share Posted June 8, 2011 I did however chip in to buy the real thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Thank you Philip - the A3 really IS the People's Engine due to the help of folk like your good self, and yes Robin, proceeds will go towards the upkeep of the engine once her overhaul is complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted June 8, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2011 Sorry Robin, think we both pressed return at the same time. The tooling has been altered to be the deflectorless version as it is now, and other changes have been made to make it the A3 in summer 2011 condition. There will only be 500 of this, and as for the pricing, I cannot comment as an employee of the museum. I don't think the price is unreasonable - its not much more than the RRP of the current production models and with the profit going to the NRM we all benefit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted June 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2011 I like the look of the loco in black with the small German-style deflectors as shown in the pictures on the NRM webshop page and in Hornby Magazine and was about to press the "buy" button when I read the description "double chimney without smoke deflectors".... Personally, I think the small deflectors make the loco look a handsome brute....and in black as well. Double-checked the pictures posted in the UK Prototype thread and, yes, the loco has no deflectors. So why publish pictures of the model with deflectors when, in reality, the locomotive does not have deflectors at this point in time? Very strange.....what a shame. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 So why publish pictures of the model with deflectors when, in reality, the locomotive does not have deflectors at this point in time? Please note the image is a prototype Pix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted June 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2011 I appreciate what you say but it still seems strange to me that the picture and the description on the website are at such variance.....how many ordinary punters who may buy the model will appreciate that......... Surely there must be someone at Hornby or the NRM with photoshopping skills who could remove the deflectors on the pictures of the model to avoid any confusion for the uninitiated. It is interesting to note that in Hornby Magazine they state that the loco is a "model of the locomotive in wartime black livery but with smoke deflectors and double chimney to replicate the current condition of the locomotive". Why weren't they told that the actual model would not have deflectors.... Just my thoughts ..... Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 It might be Hornby assumed railway modellers will not buy the model. Afterall, a cheap secondhand A3, a can of car spray paint satin black plus some transfers and you've cracked it for a fraction of the price......Assuming a modeller would want an A3 in wartime black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted June 9, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 9, 2011 It might be Hornby assumed railway modellers will not buy the model. Afterall, a cheap secondhand A3, a can of car spray paint satin black plus some transfers and you've cracked it for a fraction of the price......Assuming a modeller would want an A3 in wartime black. Don't forget the certificate.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigwelsh Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Surely there must be someone at Hornby or the NRM with photoshopping skills who could remove the deflectors on the pictures of the model to avoid any confusion for the uninitiated. Keith Probably easier to get a production one out of a box tbh unless they've all sold already.. Be even more confusing if the real one gets the deflectors put on sometime during testing while still black, probably another 500 to sell then . Price isn't too bad if you wanted to donate to Flying Scotsman and wanted a model too.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 The real one will carry deflectors in black for its main line test run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted June 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2011 Afterall, a cheap secondhand A3, a can of car spray paint satin black plus some transfers and you've cracked it for a fraction of the price......Assuming a modeller would want an A3 in wartime black. How many of those will find their way to eBay? I've got an old Triang Scotsman to restore ........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 Beware of dopplegangers..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted June 10, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 10, 2011 Sorry Robin, think we both pressed return at the same time. The tooling has been altered to be the deflectorless version as it is now, and other changes have been made to make it the A3 in summer 2011 condition. There will only be 500 of this, and as for the pricing, I cannot comment as an employee of the museum. Can I get this straight,please. A3 in wartime black with DOUBLE chimney ? That's to say a'heritage'2011 condition model.Why this current fetish for black,I wonder? Anniversary of Baedeker raid,perhaps.First a black 70000,now this---.I'm sure it will be a really beautiful model,though.Shame,however,that it will not look right at the head of a rake of Gresley teaks.Bachmann maroon Mark 1's masquerading as W.C.R.C.perhaps. Mind you,you COULD always do a nose (sorry, chimney) job,to be followed by the mother of all weathering jobs.King's Cross Platform 10 1943,at the head of a train so long that the smoke box of the loco is actually in Gasworks tunnel,my dad,on leave,returning to an R.A.F.airfield in Lincolnshire,jammed like a sardine in the corridor,philosophically pulling on his Craven A.Maybe nostalgia will make me part with what does seem like an awful lot of cash! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingscotsmanfan Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'm a modeller and I want one of these models because I have been fascinated by Flying Scotsman since I got my first Hornby Railways catalogue as a boy back in 1994. So far I have Scotsman in the NRM guise as released a few years ago and the BR blue version. My ultimate aim is to get a model of Flying Scotsman in all of its variations. I realise that this is going to be a more long term possibly a life long project so I will be buying both this and the Apple Green version due for release later this year. Now if only Hornby would relase a full spec model of Scotsman as outshopped form Doncaster works brand new... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 14, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 14, 2011 So far I have Scotsman in the .... BR blue version. BR blue... Oops - I hope you mean BR express blue from the early 50s, or you've really been sold a pup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 BR blue... Oops - I hope you mean BR express blue from the early 50s, or you've really been sold a pup You know he means that Shouldn't BR blue be BR Corporate Blue anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 You know he means that Shouldn't BR blue be BR Corporate Blue anyway? It's a funny thing isn't it. To old linesiders there was only one BR blue. Then Corporate Blue came along. There was a preserved GWR Pannier Tank in Corporate blue . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingscotsmanfan Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I'm also hoping that at some point that Hornby release Flying Scotsman in BR lined green as I think that she also looked quite handosme in that livery as well. In fact Flying Scotsman looked good in all her liveries! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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