RMweb Gold JohnR Posted November 24, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2011 Can anyone else recall a north Cornwall layout from the late 70's/early 80's, which I seem to recall was actually quite small, but captured the feel of it very well. I especially remember the bubble car and the class 22 (bashed from a Hornby 29, I think). Was it called Camelot? Can anyone else recall a north Cornwall layout from the late 70's/early 80's, which I seem to recall was actually quite small, but captured the feel of it very well. I especially remember the bubble car and the class 22 (bashed from a Hornby 29, I think). Was it called Camelot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pushpull33 Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Now, i would love to own one of these But was the stair case always to the right (obbviously it was at Bude). Dam it wont fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Now, i would love to own one of these But was the stair case always to the right (obbviously it was at Bude). Dam it wont fit Referring to "Signal Boxes of the L&SWR" by G A Pryer, Oakwood Press, ISBN 0-85361-565-9. The staircase could equally be at either end, and with other detail differences. Hth PB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2012 Just received an email from Kernow MRC. My "Bude" LSWR brick signal box is in the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cary hill Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Can anyone else recall a north Cornwall layout from the late 70's/early 80's, which I seem to recall was actually quite small, but captured the feel of it very well. I especially remember the bubble car and the class 22 (bashed from a Hornby 29, I think). Was it called Camelot? Just blundered across a couple of pics of this in Ian Allan's" Modelling BR 1948-1968 - Chris Leigh (1986). A small circular fairly minimalist layout with said Class 22 and Bubblecar on view - it might be called "Camelot Halt" as this is the name of the halt with a Pagoda style platform building. I assume it may have featured in the MRC prior to 1986. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Just received an email from Kernow MRC. My "Bude" LSWR brick signal box is in the post. Snap And the site at Minster-on-Fosse is waiting for the arrival. Hesitant might-be purchasers may be assured that this particular prototype r-t-p was well distributed. Not only at new-build stations at the turn of the 19th century, the Type 4 design was used for replacement purposes at early stations. For me, the availability of another r-t-p model means I can concentrate on my struggle to complete the fiddle yard. PB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Peter, just how well distributed was this type of box? What I mean is, could one have found its way onto the Somerset & Dorset, perhaps as a replacement for an original that met with disaster etc? Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Peter, just how well distributed was this type of box? What I mean is, could one have found its way onto the Somerset & Dorset, perhaps as a replacement for an original that met with disaster etc? Jim Hello Jim The answer is yes. After a very quick skim through "An Historical Survey of the S&DR Track Layouts and Illustrations" by Judge and Potts, from OPC, 1979, ISBN 0860930033, I found two possible candidates. Shapwick with right hand steps is a variation with horizontal timber cladding to the upper half. Stalbridge (all brick) has left hand steps, with a neat oriel window cantilevered out from the right hand end, where the steps might have been. From the situation, I guess it was to have line of sight to the public highway. "Signal Boxes of the L&SWR" by Pryer, from Oakwood Press, 2000, ISBN 0853615659 has a wealth of information, and pictures of how to customise the r-t-p to suit personal taste, and with legitimate precedent. Hth PB Self Edit. A number of chaps, from the past to the present, with published work, have referred to the importance of architectural style of the layout buildings, to tie the model to date, place, and original (frequently pre-grouping) company. As an (almost) exclusively South Western historical modeller, the efforts of KMRC to produce such high quality copies of LSWR prototypes is manna from heaven. Even better, I see that many others get as much pleasure from this state of affairs as I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted January 30, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30, 2012 "Bude" is on its way here too. But destined to become "Branscombe" in the middle-distant future. More of that anon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Thanks Peter for the info. I will dig out my own copy of Judge & Potts tonight and have a proper look at the two candidates you mention. Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 Mine will become Winchester Jn to replace the scratchbuilt version currently serving.............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Peter, thanks again for the suggestion where to look. Stalbridge certainly fits the bill for me so I now know what I will be looking for at Model Rail Scotland later this month. JIm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bedding Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Peter, thanks again for the suggestion where to look. Stalbridge certainly fits the bill for me so I now know what I will be looking for at Model Rail Scotland later this month. JIm Pleased to help. Mine has just arrived in this morning's post. Well up to standard for r-t-p resin buildings, and it is now standing on the layout where it needs to be. PB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 1, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2012 Based on some success with the stone "Wadebridge" version a delicate touch of weathering powders will tone it down and remove that "RtP" look which it inevitably has no matter that it's a good representation of its original. Once mine arrives and has been dealt with I'll post some images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Just realised that this is exclusive to Kermow Model Centre so had better get phoning fast if I want one. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 1, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 1, 2012 Just realised that this is exclusive to Kermow Model Centre so had better get phoning fast if I want one. Jim Kernow will be at Model Rail Scotland. Phone or email and ask for yours to be brought up and the should oblige. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim49 Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Rick, Thanks for the reminder about Kernow being at Model Rail Scotland but for once in my life I did what I said I would do quickly and had already ordered the box by the time I spotted your post. There's a lot to be said for procrastination. Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Rather than offer an opinion, I prefer that the pictures speak for themselves. Please note that the stairs do not touch the ground and the very fragile downpipe - the broken piece is missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks Tim Neither of the problems you mention exist with my "Wadebridge" box and I shall wait and see how "Bude" looks though have every confidence that it will be superb. While "flying steps" might be an issue for some of us they can be settled into the ground rather than plonked onto it (as can the lower courses of brickwork) in some cases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yes, woodwork shouldn't really connect straight into the ground, it allows thedampness in and allows rot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2012 Yes, woodwork shouldn't really connect straight into the ground, it allows thedampness in and allows rot. For corroboration of this take a look at the recently-released Blue Anchor signalbox from Bachmann. And take a close look at any number of existing 'boxes where the steps meet "soft" ground (even if it's ballast) as opposed to "hard" platform surfaces. Many have at least one stone, brick or concrete step at the bottom of the wooden flight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2012 Rather than offer an opinion, I prefer that the pictures speak for themselves. Please note that the stairs do not touch the ground and the very fragile downpipe - the broken piece is missing. Mine arrived yesterday and the downpipe offset was not on the signalbox. However it was in the foam packaging. Easy to glue back on with a bit of superglue but dont put the signalbox striagh back in the packageing otherwise the supeglue is likely to fog the glazing. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hale Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 May I suggest that : The woodwork is as overscale as the previous Wadebridge offering although not as warped. It is perfectly possible to make acceptable woodwork which has the same delicacy as the photo' of Bude. The stairs may not have to touch the ground but neither should they hover a scale 9" in the air. However a new piece of bent copper wire for the downpipe and some prefunctory 'bedding-in' should cure the airborne steps. Apart from these quality issues I am quite pleased with the building from Kernow, it merely requires a small amount of extra details and weathering. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 one plea to Kernow models could you downsize these to 2mm please along with your Wadebridge station. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyHale76 Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Whoops I meant signal box instead of station, but due to the computer at work cannot edit my comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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