artizen Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 i really like your technique with the stone walls so i am going to pinch that for some future layout! As you say, you learn a lot from forums such as this, but we are also learning from you - so... keep going! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 The middle shot is like looking down from a passing main line train Ian. This model is truly wonderful and I'd love a look when I pass by next! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 The middle shot is like looking down from a passing main line train Ian. This model is truly wonderful and I'd love a look when I pass by next! Dave. Now there's an idea for the backscene....the Royal Border Bridge in low relief along the back! It would be a bit too close, unfortunately........... Welcome any time, Dave. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 This is turning into a stunning layout. I would love to see it one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I like the green cast of the latest lamp. Mercury Vapour lamps tended to have this kind of colouration, especially as they aged. You didn't get a lot of light out of them though. The decks of the boats are starting to look a bit more full. My memories of fishing boats are that you could never see the deck for ropes, nets, pots, floats, buoys, ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 I like the green cast of the latest lamp. Mercury Vapour lamps tended to have this kind of colouration, especially as they aged. You didn't get a lot of light out of them though. The decks of the boats are starting to look a bit more full. My memories of fishing boats are that you could never see the deck for ropes, nets, pots, floats, buoys, ... Interesting comments Rich, thanks. The greenish tinge is an experiment. The LED is a subminiature (0402 I think) which was the cold white colour, until I gave it a coat of lemon yellow acrylic and left it on for 24 hrs to see if it exploded or anything................ . I need to add another resistor to tone the brightness down, which is on my jobs list. I also remember fishing boat decks as you describe, and have lots of photos to prove it! The quay will also need a lot of clutter. I have a box (boat box? as opposed to gloat box...don't have one of those yet as everything I've bought has been built!) into which I put odds and ends and leftovers to use for this. An inch or two left from a strand of wire gets coiled up, flattened and painted. A bit of tiny sheathing from a strand of telephone wire, cut into 1mm lengths, makes those nice cork floats I used to see. The fishboxes are stacking up too...over 50 last time I counted. I don't put anything in the box until it's ready to place on deck or quayside, otherwise it's just making work for the future. My big headaches at the moment are nets and lobster pots...any ideas? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbrummitt Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think Scalelink or 4D modelshop (or both) produce very fine etched mesh. This might make a decent net if rolled/squashed up. Otherwise you might try something like a voile (sp?). Those little doily type things that you can buy in craft shops for doing wedding favours and such like. You might not have seen that there is an article in the current MRJ about building boats. The method used styrofoam for the hull base material, which is then overlaid with strips for the planked detail. I haven't read it all yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 This is turning into a stunning layout. I would love to see it one day. Thank you. Maybe you will see it one day.....you anywhere near the Borders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 18, 2012 Author Share Posted January 18, 2012 I think Scalelink or 4D modelshop (or both) produce very fine etched mesh. This might make a decent net if rolled/squashed up. Otherwise you might try something like a voile (sp?). Those little doily type things that you can buy in craft shops for doing wedding favours and such like. You might not have seen that there is an article in the current MRJ about building boats. The method used styrofoam for the hull base material, which is then overlaid with strips for the planked detail. I haven't read it all yet. Thanks again for the ideas. I'm experimenting with potential fishing net ideas at the moment....biggest problem is when the real thing is laid down or in a heap it goes so flat and small, and that's difficult to replicate, but I'll find a way....... The boat idea sounds interesting. I'm happy with the obeche method for the kind of boats I've made so far, but it won't do for open-deck boats like cobles, but then neither would the way you offered; unless I could build with styrofoam/strip and then hollow out the styrofoam and replace with frames like the real thing, so the styrofoam would basically be just a mould for the strip. I'm starting to sound like Robinson Crusoe Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hello The Tweed estuary was upside down today, while I wired up the last 2 uncouplers, and created a wiring infrastructure for the lighting for the whole Spittal Quay board, so further lights will simply plug in. That's the theory anyway.......... I've now replaced the overscale and wrongly shaped lights with homemade gaslamps based on originals I've researched in this area (a bit fiddly - the LEDs were the smallest I could find. The dock area is redone: and streetlights have finally made it to the Dock Road.....probably the last place in the country to get them in the real world!!: The lights look brighter in the photos than in reality; I think they're about right, running at 12ma rather than the 20ma they're designed for. The walls for the goods yard and loading bank are now in place, so the next job is the goods yard buildings, including a 7-wagon warehouse based on the one William Bell designed for Wooler on the Alnwick and Cornhill branch of the NER in the 1880s. The B, TD and S is a contemporary of this, so it's fair to assume that Bell would have used the same design........which is handy, as the warehouse at Wooler is still standing and in excellent condition, albeit in use as an antiques business. We went there yesterday (all of 10 mins away) and with the permission of the proprietor took 30-something photos, including of the excellently preserved interior. No excuses for getting it wrong, then..........we'll see. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hi With the goods yard walling done and the long loading bank platform in place, the goods warehouse is now my main focus. It's a William Bell 1880s design, as mentioned in my last post. Big, at 100'x50', but actually smaller than the standard 7-wagon design as used at Wooler. The traffic at Spittal Goods is actually very demanding of covered loading facilities. There's the tourist trade to cater for, and 4 fertiliser factories shipping out bagged stuff for the farmers in the Borders, mostly up the Tweed Valley branch to Kelso and St Boswells, with the much and deservedly revered Waverley route for onward shipping. The raw materials for the 2 iron foundries and the boiler works will be unloaded in the yard, but much of the product (one of the foundries was famous for its shovels!!) will go out via the warehouse. Inbound and outbound stuff for the 2 chemical works will also load and unload through here, and there's all the day-to-day requirement of a small but developing industrial, fishing, farming and seaside community to cater for. That's all in the 1880s when it's built. By the fifties, when my model is set, things are a bit quieter, but with the good rail access, combined with the fact that the northerly reaches of the A1 are still a little primitive, the traffic hasn't died down as much as you might have expected. Which is good, as it'll keep Dr Beeching's grubby fingers off the line when he comes poking around.............. Walls are ready for application of stonework, and the platform is cut to shape. None of it is fixed, as I'll do the stonework with the walls flat, but here's a trial run: The goods yard entrance is off the quay road; the warehouse to the left(inland) along with an end dock and 1 ton crane, with the arrival road and run round loop behind. To the right of the entrance, towards the fish market, is a long loading platform, with an additional siding beyond. Here there will be a high dock for loading stone from Huds Head quarry, and a 4 ton and a 1 ton crane. This loading platform will handle mainly agricultural stuff, and heavy material for the industries and harbour. And before anyone asks, I'm not doing the whole yard with handscribed stone setts.......... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Hello. I've been making progress on the goods warehouse for Spittal yard. 4 walls, the loading platform, and some basic detail on the inside - steps, planked floor, 2 ton hand crane (very basic representation) and weighing platform; more to be added yet. On the cart/lorry loading side there will be a canopy over the 2 loading bays, which will be an extension downwards of the roof, supported on 8 very fiddly looking wall-mounted brackets. Looking forward to getting that bit out of the way....... The area of main traffic activity, from the gate to the loading bays, and to the loading bank at the other side of the yard, will be cobbled; the rest will be ash, mud, gunge etc. Perhaps on this building I'll remember to fit the interior lighting before putting the roof on; that would be a first! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
devondynosoar118 Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Very nice work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted January 30, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2012 Very nice Ian, amazed at the detail inside the shed, but thats to be expected from you now! Just think what it'll look like when it's full of 'clutter'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted January 30, 2012 Author Share Posted January 30, 2012 Very nice Ian, amazed at the detail inside the shed, but thats to be expected from you now! Just think what it'll look like when it's full of 'clutter'. Thanks for that. The roof on the side where the track runs under actually has a massive window in it, so you'll be able to see down onto the loading platform. Otherwise I may not have bothered with it.........the loading platform floor is real wood, by the way. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Hi Latest progress on Spittal's goods warehouse, showing one side of roof - the complicated side - fitted and finished except for chimney and detailing. The canopy was interesting, to say the least; when I photographed the original I could see it was going to be a bit fiddly to do.......but pleasing when it's done. I particularly like the 4th pic, which shows the view of the warehouse someone would get while walking along the quay road. Except for the shadow from the camera, of course......! The other side of the roof has a massive window in it; it looks a bit odd, to be honest, but it's there so I guess I'll have to build it like that. At least there won't be so many slates....... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2012 Very nice, I'm glad there's a photo of you holding it in your hand, it shows how small it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold bcnPete Posted February 2, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2012 Wonderful stuff Ian How did you make the awning/canopy brackets? The building has a nice presence...and besides, the shadow could be part of a lunar eclipse... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thanks for the kind comments. Paul - that's the joy of 2mm, you can hold what the NER called a '7 wagon warehouse' in the palm of your hand........ Pete - the brackets are just built up out of bits of styrene strip. I made one too many; I'll post a pic of it next time if I remember. Lunar eclipse, you say.......just as long as it doesn't have a massive effect on the tides, or all my effort could be washed away Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Smith Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Really nice piece of modelling (only to be expected judging from all of the previous entries in the thread). The whole thing just "looks right". I too like the 4th photo. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Not a comment on your lovely layout, but have you thought what the initials of your layout spell? Be tedius ! B TDS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted February 2, 2012 Author Share Posted February 2, 2012 Not a comment on your lovely layout, but have you thought what the initials of your layout spell? Be tedius ! B TDS Hmmm. Hadn't thought of that. I nearly called it the B, S, TD......but it may have sounded a little rude. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted February 2, 2012 Share Posted February 2, 2012 Thank you. Maybe you will see it one day.....you anywhere near the Borders? Afraid not, unless you count the border of land and sea on the south coast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanLister Posted February 3, 2012 Author Share Posted February 3, 2012 I've not commented on this so far (though I seem to have "liked" it a fair few times) It is certainly one of the more inspirational layouts I've seen - Its that "railwaylike" it hard to beleive that it isnt an exact-to-the-last-inch model of somewhere real! Thanks for your kind and supportive words, Mickey. When I decided to start this layout thread, I had grave misgivings about making a fool of myself by going public with something that was too ambitious and in many ways the opposite of the advice beginners are so often and so wisely given, but felt that it would be a good way to get help and advice (proven spectacularly correct and very helpful, thankyou). I also wanted to show, after my first few weeks of having a go, that 2mm FS isn't as scary as a lot of people seem to think, and that it's accessible and capable of bringing a lot of pleasure and satisfaction to anyone who wants to have a go...you just have to find the ways that work for you. If my thread helps in persuading a few more beginners like me to have a go at building 2mm layouts, then it's achieved both its aims. Back to the last bits of the goods shed roof......... Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markeg Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hi Ian, Have just discovered your excellent layout and it looks good. I like the look of the Goods Shed and a preserved one to model it on. I am planning to do Ponteland as a branch off the main roundy roundy layout (OO 15'x8' with plan to extend to 20'x8') which will be for exhibitions as well as at home. The Goods Shed seems too far away in the photos to get a decent go at sizing it up. keep up the good work Mark in OZ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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