RJS1977 Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I like the look of the Metro Vic version, just waiting for Heljan to bring one out. Might be interested if they brought it out in 25kV guise as it saw out its days on what used to be my local railway (LNWR Styal Loop). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2011 But real dislikes (even hatreds)? Well Brush Type 2s/Class 31s when they came to the Western did not earn my love because they were displacing proper diesels and similarly the later Sulzer Type2s latterly Class 25 which had the same emotional faults as the Class 31 without anything interesting in their appearance to even slightly redeem them, and there were crummy things to have to use as motive power to run a railway. That's exactly how I felt as a teenage spotter at the time. How gratifying to learn that a proper railwayman thought the same. Oddly enough, when you look at them, the Brush Type 2s evidently had some care taken with their styling - but there is still something not quite right about a low-power engine being so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Well they (Brush Type 2s) were introduced in the early part of 1958.........................for East Anglia, initially, where the weight (and distribution of it) counted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 12, 2011 Another vote for the GWR turbine here. When it finally sees a RTR release I will celebrate with my credit card. My controversial dislike? Stanier's Princess class, if they had a larger tender that would look a bit more balanced, but with the normal Stanier tender they just look ridiculous in my eyes! Time to duck for cover! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2011 Apologies, I forgot my all time favourite, even above the 9F. (Loud fanfare stage right) yup, the Dub Dee! I just loved that clank, enjoyed its tendency to derail going in reverse and admired the simpleness of the outline; chimney was a bit c**p though!! Otherwise bomb proof, and that is quite appropriate for when they were produced. Please don't worry, I'm being taken back to my cell now. P @ 36E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 i like railways and locos from all around the world but leave out these two bits. - standard gauge G.W. - north america (but canada and south america are good) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Oddly enough, when you look at them, the Brush Type 2s evidently had some care taken with their styling - but there is still something not quite right about a low-power engine being so long. To be fair, the 1365hp variant of the Mirrlees engine was towards the upper end of the type 2 range, as was the 1470hp EE replacement The original Brush design is intriguing; based on locos supplied to Ceylon, it had porthole engine room windows and a skirted front, reminiscent of the Metrovicks but with only two windscreens. The BTC didnt like it and the eventual result owed a lot to work done by Wilkes and Ashmore. My controversial dislike? Stanier's Princess class, if they had a larger tender that would look a bit more balanced, but with the normal Stanier tender they just look ridiculous in my eyes! You really wouldnt like then with a Fowler tender then I like them though, the incredible length of that boiler is something else; whereas the Duchesses were graceful, the Lizzies just exuded brute power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 You make that sound like a bad thing... Dave. Sorry mate, I was typing under my breath Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozexpatriate Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Streamlined steam locomotives (excepting the magnificent Gresley and Stanier bathtubs) seem to provoke a love/hate reaction in people. Any of the early US electric traction locomotives have looks only a mother could love. I'm thinking of the NYC's Manhattan traction and the Milwaukee Road on the Pacific (Bipolars) and Mountain divisions (Boxcabs, before the Little Joes). I'm a big fan of the bipolars - magnificent beasts. People seem to have a love/hate thing going on with the Pennsy GG1. I think they're magnificent, though half a GG1 * is diabolical. * Courtesy of the USA & Canadian area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Here's the most beautiful "streamliner" ever built (they were fast too): Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bl**dy he** that's one big beast. Was it a 4.4.4.4.? Just look at those big ends (on the loco lads, on the loco). P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Yes it was and non-articulated as well. I always think it looks like something out of a Superman comic from DC. Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 12, 2011 What an absolute beast you've found Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hang on a minute, the one and first nought have fallen off the number. edit: yes I know they're really vent holes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I knew a girl like that..... Speaking of corbels, I've just noticed the presenter on that show 'Only Connect'. Nice rusticated pillasters too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 A classic, Raymond Loewy, design, what a stunner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 The front end of that smokebox reminds me a bit of the nose profile on a Baldwin diesel loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 The T1 just seeps attitude from every sinew. What a massive, glorious celebration of steam superpower! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestPines Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 And they lasted barely a decade in service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Im afraid I still prefer the 'Big Boy' 4-8-8-4 Mallet's. Brutally powerful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Bl**dy he** that's one big beast. Was it a 4.4.4.4.? It certainly is 4-4-4-4 'kin big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 An am mighty pleased to say the Pennsy duplex share the same birth year as me pilgrim... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 I'd no idea they were that bl00dy old...! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Looking at US locos, these were pretty impressive too: N&W J class http://www.train-photos.com/picture/number2843.asp Southern Pacific 4-8-4s on 'Daylight' http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/sp4449-cal.jpg Pennsy GG1 electric http://www.railpictures.net/images/d1/4/9/7/1497.1192647600.jpg Also the Chinese QJs http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/images/Qj5751.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 13, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2011 The Pennsy T1s - I think they built 50 of them! - don't seem to have been quite as successful as their builder might have liked, and Lucius Beebe quotes them as having "burning of Rome" smoke effects in service. As noted above, the irresistible force of dieseldom - which General Motors had unaccountably been permitted to continue building and developing during the war, while the Big 3 steam builders were largely required to carry on building steam, or at best diesel switchers - meant that steam was on its last knockings with these thoroughly modern locos. Full marks to trisonic Pete for including such a dramatic contrast to much of the thread - and invoking wise comment from so many others (as well as mine!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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