RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 Lovely!! Great seeing the Duke next to the other Cambrian stulwards! Interesting how much wider the tender is compaired to the 22xx!! Many Thanks Bob.C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Stop it, Stop it!!! I dismantled my Cambrian GWR layout 28 years ago, it doesn't fit in with modern image East Angular or my O-14 Ffestiniog project Must keep repeating 'I don't wont one, I don't need one, I can't afford one'... My wallet's aching... ..it would look lovely in my cabinet alongside my EM Duke 'Comet'... Martin Edited January 16, 2014 by mcowgill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Lovely!! Great seeing the Duke next to the other Cambrian stulwards! Interesting how much wider the tender is compaired to the 22xx!! Many Thanks Bob.C Thanks Bob. R.e. the comment on the tender width, to be fair they are not models of the same tender. My Collett Goods is paired with a Dean 3,000 gallon tender (ex-Dean Goods) on a brass chassis. Most 2251's ran with the 3,500 gallon tender as used in the model of the Dukedog, so that would be more accurate. The Dukedog's tender is one fo the best models of the 3,500 gallon that Ive seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) My weathered version arrived this morning from Tim at Arcadia models, just had a brief analogue run on a layout under construction, ran impeccably crawled beautifully, no stalling on dead frog points ( tender has pickups as expected) It will be digitized later today. It also needs a crew cab looks a bit empty! The vac pipes etc are factory fitted, the brake rigging, front coupling hook, and some fire irons, also a speaker enclosure are supplied for user fittng. Some poor quality phots attached. Oh by the way I have just ordered a Green one!! apparently Bachmann are now out of stock of all variants. Edited January 16, 2014 by Stevelewis 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 . The Dukedog's tender is one fo the best models of the 3,500 gallon that Ive seen. Pity they invest so much in a new tooling only to spoil it by fitting broad gauge spacing brakes! I thought we had moved on from this in the 1970's Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Pity they invest so much in a new tooling only to spoil it by fitting broad gauge spacing brakes! I thought we had moved on from this in the 1970's Mike Wiltshire Does it really matter? At least the manufacturer is making available a model which many people will buy, an excellent altternative to the prospect of scratch or kit building which would cost more in terms of time & expense Edited January 16, 2014 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I didn't realise that Hattons had been greengrocers in the past Just after the war ended Norman Hatton sold many things apparently, including Firewood! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Does it really matter? At least the manufacturer is making available a model which many people will buy, an excellent altternative to the prospect of scratch or kit building which would cost more in terms of time & expense Well yes it does when they stand out so much. It just looks so wrong and is un-necessary as it was pointed out to Bachmann some time ago. Hence why I will not be rushing to dispose of my kit built 3201. When I acquire an Earl for a Tre Pol and Pen conversion, those brakes will be removed and replacement positioned where they should be. They got it right with Truro! Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) A couple of additiional pics of the weathered version Edited January 16, 2014 by Stevelewis 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I would appreciate if someone could inform of the haulage capacity. Curious to see if the smaller wheels can out perform Truro. Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 My employer's uniform supplier use Yodel, some of the stories of where things have been left are funny (if not very worrying) and the less said about using the doorbells the better My good lady has just phoned, my BR Black one has just been delivered by Yodel less than 20 hrs from being ordered and seems to be intact. (I wont see it for another week Arrrggh) Well done Hatton's for a fast and efficient service Bob.C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks Bob. R.e. the comment on the tender width, to be fair they are not models of the same tender. My Collett Goods is paired with a Dean 3,000 gallon tender (ex-Dean Goods) on a brass chassis. Most 2251's ran with the 3,500 gallon tender as used in the model of the Dukedog, so that would be more accurate. The Dukedog's tender is one fo the best models of the 3,500 gallon that Ive seen. Hi there, many thanks for the reply. Yes the 22xx having a Dean Tender explains why it stood out to my eyes!! Never though of that dodge using an ex Maineline of Hornby Tender mmmm thats got me thinking as I do like the earlier styles of tender coupled to these engines, makes them look less modern Cheers Bob.C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrock Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hi there, many thanks for the reply. Yes the 22xx having a Dean Tender explains why it stood out to my eyes!! Never though of that dodge using an ex Maineline of Hornby Tender mmmm thats got me thinking as I do like the earlier styles of tender coupled to these engines, makes them look less modern Cheers Bob.C No problem. I agree with you - my Bachmann Collett Goods came with the Collett 3,000 gallon tender with the continuous fender. It looks far too modern to my eyes too! The Dean tender looks great and is paired with a Mainly Trains churchward chassis. If anyone wants to sell me their Dukedog tender, please let me know though!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Sidecar Racer Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2014 I've been Yodel'ed . Okay salivating Great Western fans , some shots of the Dukedog in 'proper' colours . Now I have to strip it down and remove the DCC chip , a blanking version is included in the bag of bits , along with the brake rigging , fire irons and other things that I cant identify at the moment . The coal load is a removeable item . Once it's de-chipped then the tender will have to be attacked to get the ' proper ' insignia in place . First impressions on just a visual inspection are favourable , that actually means it will do for me , others might be a bit more fussy . Once the chip work is done I will give it a testing and report back . 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trisonic Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 The crew had obviously sloped off for some tea? Best, Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 The crew had obviously sloped off for some tea? Best, Pete. Give us a chance Pete , that was only ten minutes after delivery . 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Rather sooner than I anticipated i have now fitted a decoder to my weathered Dukedog and just done a couple of trial runs, the Digital control is superb CV3 (acceleration) is set to 18 CV4 (deceleration) set to 12, decoder is a Bachmann 21pin, control Gaugemaster Prodigy 2. The loco crawled extremely slowly on setting 1 ( almost impossible to detect any movement), turning the handheld up to 14 the loco slowly accelerated to (in my estimate) a scale 30mph, then returning the controller setting to 0 it decelerated slowly & smoothly and stopped. Full speed ( setting 28) appears to be around 55mph these are only rough estimates of the speeds. It hauled 6 Bachmann Mk 1s with no problem on level track the layout I am using has no gradients (Yet) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 GWR green Dukedogs, paint those splasher tops black. Good display of photos gents. Brakes moulded to tender sideframes I personally can accept. They've been out of line with wheels for years on may many items of rolling stock including coach bogies. It is the reintroduction of moulded darts after all these years that grates a bit, as removal can damage the door 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium petethemole Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm afraid that to me the weathered example looked as though it's been sprayed with camouflage paint (German AFV red-brown) rather than accumulated grime from use and lack of cleaning. I'm not a fan of factory weathering but that is particularly unconvincing. The loco looks great though, especially the GWR green version. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) I am not unconvinced it looks OK to me maybe its my old eyes! I have been weathering locos for several decades!! When my 2nd loco the GWR green one arrives I will weather that my self so we can do a comparison Edited January 16, 2014 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm afraid that to me the weathered example looked as though it's been sprayed with camouflage paint (German AFV red-brown) rather than accumulated grime from use and lack of cleaning. I'm not a fan of factory weathering but that is particularly unconvincing. The loco looks great though, especially the GWR green version. Pete I do not dissagree with these sentiments concerning factory weathering. Nevertheless, I find this weathering is actually a good base (rather than satin black) on which to add ones own style of weathering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2014 The crew had obviously sloped off for some tea? Best, Pete. No mate, they fell down the 'ole between loco & tender.... I am only joking, honest, HONEST! Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) I've been Yodel'ed . Okay salivating Great Western fans , some shots of the Dukedog in 'proper' colours . DSCN3635.jpg DSCN3636.jpg DSCN3637.jpg DSCN3638.jpg DSCN3639.jpg DSCN3641.jpg DSCN3642.jpg DSCN3644.jpg DSCN3645.jpg DSCN3646.jpg Now I have to strip it down and remove the DCC chip , a blanking version is included in the bag of bits , along with the brake rigging , fire irons and other things that I cant identify at the moment . The coal load is a removeable item . Once it's de-chipped then the tender will have to be attacked to get the ' proper ' insignia in place . First impressions on just a visual inspection are favourable , that actually means it will do for me , others might be a bit more fussy . Once the chip work is done I will give it a testing and report back . Thanks for posting the photos Sidecar Racer, l think she looks classic in Great Western Green. I wish l had a green one myself now!! Lovely looking layout you ve posed her on, is it yours? Bob.C Edited January 16, 2014 by Blobrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Sidecar Racer Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks for posting the photos Sidecar Racer, l think she looks classic in Great Western Green. I wish l had a green one myself now!! Lovely looking layout you ve posed her on, is it yours? Bob.C Thanks Bob , you can read all about the layout here . http://www.rmweb.co....where-in-devon/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 16, 2014 I do not dissagree with these sentiments concerning factory weathering. Nevertheless, I find this weathering is actually a good base (rather than satin black) on which to add ones own style of weathering. That is certainly my hope (and intention) with the weathered one - I think it looks a reasonable starting point. The big question is the best way to produce that all over dirt coating that developed on locos which received little cleaning attention and that might require some experimentation I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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