Bodmin Bob Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Here we go again... I express a perfectly reasonable point that I have purchased several times from Rails of Sheffield Ebay shop and have found their items to be listed accurately. I have bought several damaged items, but all the damage has been properly listed with the advertisement and Rails offer a 14 day returns period for anything if you feel they have incorrectly listed something. So now the straw men of RMW race off to find any examples of errors they can find. If you can find examples brand new cheaper than used on Ebay then bully for you. I suspect if pressed to ask for examples you would be stuck to a couple of special offers that you've managed to find. I personally have found Rails very good indeed and compared to many retaliers discussed here, a paragon of virtue. But that's my experience and my opinion. I would be very reluctant to buy another kit built loco from them. I bought what I thought was a lovely looking OO kit built Lord Nelson from them about a year ago for quite a few hundred quid - but it was so badly packaged that by the time it arrived it had reverted back into being a kit again - and what was still left in one piece ran appallingly unless it was on a dead straight piece of track - test run, I don't think so. That said - I did get a full refund! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2015 Here we go again... Again? So now the straw men of RMW race off to find any examples of errors they can find. If you can find examples brand new cheaper than used on Ebay then bully for you. How to win friends and influence people. I personally have found Rails very good indeed and compared to many retaliers discussed here, a paragon of virtue. But that's my experience and my opinion.A very fair point .......... But why the antagonism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 23, 2015 Come on gents,let's not allow this to develop into an interpersonal spat....please.If you don't like what others post,then agree to disagree and walk away.This is a hobby we all love....so let learn to get on with each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You would think that, Ian. All I did was post my positive dealings with Rails, specifically mentioning that they listed items honestly and fairly- ie they don't seek to hide damage or faults, and if you do find the item is not as listed then you have 14 days to return it. But right on cue, some people have to go off specifically looking for faults with Rails listings- just simple admin errors when they know damned well I was referring to the deliberate omission of damage as with some other ebay retailers. I don't really care- I am not paid to promote Rails; only with some companies clearly taking the pee on ebay, I wanted to show that it is NOT ALL that are doing it. Bob above has listed his negative experience with Rails, but he has done so in a factual and objective manner- who can argue with that? So to make it totally clear I am not referring to him. Come on gents,let's not allow this to develop into an interpersonal spat....please.If you don't like what others post,then agree to disagree and walk away.This is a hobby we all love....so let learn to get on with each other. I do not seek friendship from people who seek to provoke an argument, nor am I sufficiently interested in them to try to influence them in any way. Again? How to win friends and influence people. A very fair point .......... But why the antagonism? An old Arabic saying "No good deed ever goes un-punished" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Having almost forgotten about Lima's ancient British outline N gauge range, I suffered a wave of nostalgia when spotting this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIMA-N-GAUGE-BR-GREEN-D2785-DIESEL-SHUNTER-LOCOMOTIVE-/201271099736?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item2edcb14158 Helped by several cups of coffee, I've reached the conclusion that this hideously overscale and non-working lump of plastic and metal is not worth anywhere near the asking price to me. On my Watch list though, as I'm curious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hornby Dublo/Meccano had a major problem pre-war with impurities causing fatigue (How many 0 Gauge Princesses survive with original wheels?). They of course were one of the pioneers. I think that it is because of this experience that they established such a high standard post-war. Thanks for that info. I don't go back quite that far. My first HD loco must have been around 1947. I did learn what I know about die casting from a chap called Antony Barrington Brown. There can't be many with more knowledge and experience than him. Bernard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2015 An old Arabic saying "No good deed ever goes un-punished" Was Oscar Wilde Arabic? Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Maybe after he'd had a few drinks he was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 No, I do not recall Oscar Wilde being Arabic. He is Irish. Wikipedia has an article on him, if it helps. One wonders if you mean that he in fact the phrase "no good deed ever goes un-punished" should be attributed to him? That phrase has been attributed to people as diverse as Confucius, Churchill, Abraham Lincoln and the baby Meerkat from TV. No one really knows where it originates. But pre Oscar Wilde days I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 How to win friends and influence people. .... "Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more." (Oscar Wilde) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2015 Mr Stuart You obviously don't share my sense of humour. This was a famous quote from Oscar Wilde, others might have used it before him but he certainly did too. Neil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 No, it was definately an Arabic saying... "Always forgive your enemies. Nothing annoys them more." (Oscar Wilde) Me with no sense of humour? See above! Mr StuartYou obviously don't share my sense of humour. This was a famous quote from Oscar Wilde, others might have used it before him but he certainly did too.Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Would it have been scrapped in that livery? Not my area but I thought most lasted a lot longer than GFYE. Bernard Looking at it another way....the headcode boxes have 2 dots, so this is possibly a "recent" re-paint into a version of green, as some 31 s were? Also, it looks to have no boiler filler or steps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nedrahn Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Hornby Dublo/Meccano had a major problem pre-war with impurities causing fatigue (How many 0 Gauge Princesses survive with original wheels?). They of course were one of the pioneers. I think that it is because of this experience that they established such a high standard post-war. I recently bought some bits (very cheap bits, I hasten to add), which included a pre-war N2 chassis that had been fitted with Romfords. I knew already that the chassis had broken in two, and so I just wanted the wheels, coupling rods and motor to transfer to another chassis. However, when I started to take the chassis apart, it just crumbled. I still have the remains. So yes, andyman7 is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffnut Thorston Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 You would think that, Ian. All I did was post my positive dealings with Rails, specifically mentioning that they listed items honestly and fairly- ie they don't seek to hide damage or faults, and if you do find the item is not as listed then you have 14 days to return it. But right on cue, some people have to go off specifically looking for faults with Rails listings- just simple admin errors when they know damned well I was referring to the deliberate omission of damage as with some other ebay retailers. I don't really care- I am not paid to promote Rails; only with some companies clearly taking the pee on ebay, I wanted to show that it is NOT ALL that are doing it. Bob above has listed his negative experience with Rails, but he has done so in a factual and objective manner- who can argue with that? So to make it totally clear I am not referring to him. >SNIPPED & BOLD added... Some people MAY have gone off specifically looking for errors, etc.... I had found the "Ivatt" listing a day or so earlier while looking for something with an 0-6-0 chassis....so that came up in the search results. Also, I did add a posting to point out that I had received a reply..... As for the pricing of the tenders.....that is my opinion, and that is that..... No axe to grind either....ours is kept sharp for splitting logs, to keep warm! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-9F-92192-32-851-BR-L-C-Black-BR1F-Tender-Double-Chimney-Weathered-/291351745135?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d5ead26f Looks awful. But, at that price, it may be worth salvaging for restoration (If possible) Edited January 24, 2015 by TheSoutherner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-9F-92192-32-851-BR-L-C-Black-BR1F-Tender-Double-Chimney-Weathered-/291351745135?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item43d5ead26f Looks awful. But, at that price, it may be worth salvaging for restoration (If possible) It is difficult to see with such poor pictures. I really dont know how it happens when 99% of cameras are auto focus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 24, 2015 It is difficult to see with such poor pictures. I really dont know how it happens when 99% of cameras are auto focus Everyone has different skills! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted January 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 24, 2015 It is difficult to see with such poor pictures. I really dont know how it happens when 99% of cameras are auto focus So where does one buy these special eBay cameras? I looked on eBay for them. The closest I found was this. http://www.ebay.com.au/gds/Reasons-to-Set-a-Camera-Lens-Out-of-Focus-/10000000177629177/g.html Especially this tip. Portray Vagueness or AbstractionOne interesting effect using an out of focus lens can create is vagueness, or abstraction within an image. A good quality unfocused image can be identified, while still keeping a great deal of mystery in any particular details of the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 Another case of lack of research, this time by a company who specialises is renumbering and weathering.http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R-2218-WEST-COUNTRY-B-of-B-BERE-ALSTON-34104-MATTINGLEY-CONVERSION-/391037244403?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item5b0ba2d3f3Also, is it me, or does the number spacing look a little off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-BR-class-M7-0-4-4T-Black-LOCO-/251774140772?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item3a9ee88164This one's been going around for months! He started it at £80, and has slowly been bringing it down. Now at £65, and he still can't shove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonel Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Another case of lack of research, this time by a company who specialises is renumbering and weathering. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R-2218-WEST-COUNTRY-B-of-B-BERE-ALSTON-34104-MATTINGLEY-CONVERSION-/391037244403?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item5b0ba2d3f3 Also, is it me, or does the number spacing look a little off? w Calling the number spacing "off" is being too generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 It is difficult to see with such poor pictures. I really dont know how it happens when 99% of cameras are auto focus In my experience it is often the auto focus that causes the problem. I have often had difficulty getting a good shot because the damn thing refuses to focus on the small object in the foreground rather than something in the background. My fairly ancient digital camera has a 'close up' setting which helps, but is by no means perfect. I would expect the cameras used in the previous examples have something similar, but the user did not read the manual... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RFS Posted January 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 25, 2015 Another case of lack of research, this time by a company who specialises is renumbering and weathering. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hornby-R-2218-WEST-COUNTRY-B-of-B-BERE-ALSTON-34104-MATTINGLEY-CONVERSION-/391037244403?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item5b0ba2d3f3 Also, is it me, or does the number spacing look a little off? Apart from the numbers, it's been renumbered from 34041 Wilton. But this loco had 8'6"" cab and tender, whereas 34104 was built new with the wider 9' version. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 Apart from the numbers, it's been renumbered from 34041 Wilton. But this loco had 8'6"" cab and tender, whereas 34104 was built new with the wider 9' version. Hence why I said a 'Lack of research' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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