RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2012 From Andy's profile: You know, some people think I do this for a living. I don't Be careful what you write. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Haha, a fair (historical) cop there Martin. I've now removed that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfwit Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I do though, struggle with people who think that anything run by a (gasp) profit-making company is somehow 'evil' and must be stopped/criticised at all costs... Yet those same people will happily order the latest Hornmann whatever from the countries biggest box shifter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bigcheeseplant Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Andy created this forum and has put his own time and I would think his own money, so it’s up to Andy being the owner to do what he wants with the site, we may think it belongs to us, but its Andy product and his ownership, How would you feel if someone told you what to do with something you had created? In these tough commercial times having a job that pays you a regular income has to be good news, Andy having been not in regular employment for a year to being in a situation were you are now being paid to do the same thing that you did for free is rather an attractive , What would you do? As I said before I prefer independent to commercial/corporate maybe that’s maybe why MRJ has such a loyal and dedicated readership. Nobody is forced to partake in RMWeb, if people don’t like what is on offer move to another forum or go and create your own and see how much hard work is involved. I just feel its ironic that RMWeb was created out of the frustration of the original BRM forum has now come full circle! David I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 So, Warners have barely been involved for 24 hours and already the bloody server's gone down! Didn't you just know it was going to be bad news? At least I haven't been blamed for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.A.C Martin Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I rather like the Garter Blue and Coronation red livery the forum has taken on... (Of course as a Charlton fan, I'm not ever going to admit it's claret and blue!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2012 Why do so many people think the colours are anything to do with kicking a bag of wind around? The correct solution for a RAILWAY web site would be to have the choice of colours based on those of the Railway Companies provided no one wants Thameslink 2000 colours!! Can I have Chocolate and Cream please but don't tell the Mid Hants I said that! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nth Degree Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 ...Yet. Where were you at 5am this morning cromptonnut?... (I'm kidding!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium skipepsi Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2012 At least I haven't been blamed for it. Not yet give it time and an urban myth will arise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think I've sussed it! Warners want to sell us magazines!! http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/52733-brm-april-2012/page__pid__623483&do=findComment&comment=623483 What with IA selling off seven titles including the Hornby title to a specialist aviation publisher........ Methinks all is not well in the publishing empire. No wonder RMWeb looked attractive particularly if you stop and think that most magazines survive on advertising revenue first and subscriptions second........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Sorry, haven't read the full 14 pages. Well done to Andy, hope it all works out to provide a sustianble future. Where does this leave things like the wish list and model of the year, run in conjunction with MREMag and Model Rail in previous years (and this year?). Will RMWeb now exclude itself, will there be multiple polls (as we're seeing with a wishlist poll), thereby dilluting the power to influence manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2012 As in http://www.nudaclick...ial-rental.html ??? Reminds me of the time in the '90s that I lent a former seafarer a video entitled "Big Boys"! He looked carefully round before taking it from me - knowing, which others might not, that it was all about 4-8-8-4s.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well just over 12 hours in and the world (or RMweb) hasn't ended just yet! Now that was just tempting fate! Off air all morning, can I have been the only one that thought Andy had been summoned in front of the Warner's board for company indoctrination. Fortunately it just seemed like an unfortunate coincidence, which hopefully will be the last one we see for a long time. Just throw a bit more Warner's money at it or pass it on to the IT department to resolve ... no second thoughts, don't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Where does this leave things like the wish list and model of the year, run in conjunction with MREMag and Model Rail in previous years (and this year?). Will RMWeb now exclude itself, will there be multiple polls (as we're seeing with a wishlist poll), thereby dilluting the power to influence manufacturers. I'm happy to say that such joint initiatives will continue (certainly from our side) as they are beneficial to the hobby and of interest to those in the hobby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Just throw a bit more Warner's money at it or pass it on to the IT department to resolve . It was resolved in the usual manner directly between me and Jim, the only unfortunate thing was that I had to wait for him to get up - he did however offer an emergency number for middle of the night stuff but I'd have to be cruel to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Ava_Hay Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 he did however offer an emergency number for middle of the night stuff but I'd have to be cruel to do that. Hey, there is cash involved here! Be cruel! Publishing the number on here might be cruel though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2012 Why do so many people think the colours are anything to do with kicking a bag of wind around? The correct solution for a RAILWAY web site would be to have the choice of colours based on those of the Railway Companies provided no one wants Thameslink 2000 colours!! Can I have Chocolate and Cream please but don't tell the Mid Hants I said that! Chris I'm just waiting for someone to ask for "plum and spilt milk" - then Bore us by telling us how they had a Whale of a time, building their own personal Premier Line! Joking aside, I happen to rather like the L&NWR carriage livery - but I think it might be possible for some people to get too preoccupied with exactly which colours appear on these pages. For me, the colours are what they are - colours. They look fine to me as they are - even if they didn't, I wouldn't be losing sleep over them. Same goes for who owns the site - and pays the bills. Andy has put in an enormous amount over the years. He's always wanted this forum site to succeed - and I don't see this changing any time soon. Warner's have made it clear that they're also committed to the continued success of this site. It's in their interests - just as much as it's in Andy's interest - just as much as it's in all our interests. BRM features articles - and letters - written by people from a wide variety of modelling backgrounds and with a wide variety of views. Some of them agree with the publisher - with the editor - with Andy - or with any of us. Some of them don't - some might even turn out to be "ex-list" types, formerly of this parish. I'm sure Andy is more than capable of dealing with any potential conflicts - in his usual calm, reasonable, way. What I'm trying to say is this - over the years, Andy has provided us all with an excellent forum site - and an excellent resource. I'm sure this will continue under the new ownership. I intend to stick around - I hope other real members do the same. This also includes anyone with doubts - please give the new owners a chance. Andy - all the best for the future. Regards, Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2012 Where does this leave things like the wish list and model of the year, run in conjunction with MREMag and Model Rail in previous years (and this year?). Will RMWeb now exclude itself, will there be multiple polls (as we're seeing with a wishlist poll), thereby dilluting the power to influence manufacturers. I'm happy to say that such joint initiatives will continue (certainly from our side) as they are beneficial to the hobby and of interest to those in the hobby. I'm hopeful there might even be the potential to increase the value of these joint initiatives, by involving more magazines (and publishers) in the same surveys etc - hopefully, this would mean they speak for a larger cross section of railway modellers. Whether this actually happens remains to be seen. Huw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well we're back on track after the 5.00am derailment. All aboard full speed ahead. All those in favour say AY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Huw Griffiths : I'm just waiting for someone to ask for "plum and spilt milk" - then Bore us by telling us how they had a Whale of a time, building their own personal Premier Line! I for one wouldnt be over the Moon nor even swinging from the Beames as it'd probably be a Webb of lies. Don't you just hate folk who have football or railway colours on the brain.......I mean wots wrong with garter blue & marlborough blue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2012 Why do so many people think the colours are anything to do with kicking a bag of wind around? Chris I thought every forum had its share of bags of wind? I take great pleasure in puncturing them whenever I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adams442T Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Well done Andy! As a past contributor would I have been happy to continue to 'sub' the forum? Of course I would. But...would enough of us have contributed to make it a viable full time paid job. I doubt it. In todays doubtful world financial climate (especially in publishing) this should be a good deal for both Andy & Warners. Any problems with watered down reviews would soon see plenty of constructive criticism I trust as per usual. Besides which have the doom-mongers actually looked at some of the alternative forums. Oh dear, worse than a 1954 copy of 'The Toddler' many of them. Let's not resolve to post a 'Told You So' thread on 5 Mar 2013, let's just wait and see what good governance and innovative thinking Andy can bring to this new venture. He's done OK so far............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted March 6, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2012 I thought every forum had its share of bags of wind? I take great pleasure in puncturing them whenever I can. Quite so, but I wouldnt dream of kicking them around.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Yellow and Green surely? Excellent! The colors of the Chicago and Northwestern Railway! (which even had left hand running!). I once wore a bright yellow shirt and dark green tie to work and my boss chided me for it! Was he going on about 11 full grown men kicking a little ball around? Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewC Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Initially I had mixed feelings and reservations, but then again I'm cynical and have spent too much of my career dealing with accountants that know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Warners have themselves a very valuable asset in RMWeb and Andy. It gives them a way to communicate and interact with their potential customers in a way that publishers could only dream about 10 years ago. It has the potential to be a win win for everyone. Warners gets real feedback on the direction the hobby is taking. Not just letters from Seymour J Disgruntled of Little Fartingaboutshire. Which in turn helps them tune and develop their products to suit. We get the type of book and magazines we want and need. All together now...... We are Andy Y's Claret & Blue Army ! We are Andy Y's Claret & Blue Army ! We are Andy Y's Claret & Blue Army ! We are Andy Y's Claret & Blue Army ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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