RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted November 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) Will you please let me know which Collectors Club it is? It's the Dapol Collector's Club. Exeter is only available from that source. Edited November 30, 2018 by scottystitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted November 30, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 30, 2018 Hi Robin, Will you please let me know which Collectors Club it is? No problem, Dapol's own: https://www.Dapol.co.uk/shop/collectors-club-shop Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Announced today https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-Battle-of-Britain-%20West-Country-Class £199.95 for a standard DC loco is eye watering and a price I just cannot justify paying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted December 4, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2018 Hi, Announced today https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-Battle-of-Britain-%20West-Country-Class £199.95 for a standard DC loco is eye watering and a price I just cannot justify paying I would be very surprised that anyone would insist on paying that figure when, to give one example, Hattons are currently offering that specification of model at £169.96: https://www.hattons.co.uk/424166/Dapol_2S_034_001_Class_7P6F_Streamlined_Battle_of_Britain_4_6_2_21C164_Fighter_Command_in_SR_mala/StockDetail.aspx That figure is still quite an eye-opener in itself and, as I mentioned in an earlier post, means I'll no longer look at ordering additional examples "almost by default" as has happened in the past. It is probably for many of us in part due to price levels in the recent past few years having given us a period of exceptional value for money that the shock is hitting home, but we were warned about this eventuality quite some time ago. Looking at prices of similar new steam locomotives, both UK prototype/supplier and overseas, I expect we are seeing a norm and we will have to decide at what level each of us individually can continue to buy in the numbers we once perhaps took for granted. It may be a case for some of us cutting back on the indulgences, or looking to the second hand sources before demand pushes those prices higher. I would certainly like at least another name/livery example, but I think that may only happen for me if bigger discounts become available once the initial period of introduction passes. If it doesn't, it doesn't... Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Announced today https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-Battle-of-Britain-%20West-Country-Class £199.95 for a standard DC loco is eye watering and a price I just cannot justify paying Quite acceptable considering that it's fully die-cast. Dapol are taking a step closer towards European standards and therefore that kind of pricing. Furthermore it's their first new-generation model and if the Class 68 and 50 are anything to go by, this model is going to be an absolute beauty!! People who see the value and quality will happily buy it. Edited December 5, 2018 by MGR Hooper! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Other people may wait until November 2020 for Hatton's Sale of the Century. The models are not due until January to March 2020 so why not wait a few more months to pick up a bargain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I can't understand placing an order now. They will get here eventually and there will be plenty of chance to buy one once they are on sale. Its like the 50s - I plan to buy one but I have every confidence that it will be possible to buy one once they are actually available. Has any N gauge model (except crowdfunded) completely sold out before it has arrived in the country? Judging by the struggle to get cash from people who said they would invest to get kings to a point where the tooling can be kicked off it seems unlikely that any new model will all be accounted for before they arrive or that all the pre-orders will turn into real sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Collier Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Quite acceptable considering that it's fully die-cast. Dapol are taking a step closer towards European standards and therefore that kind of pricing. Furthermore it's their first new-generation model and if the Class 68 and 50 are anything to go by, this model is going to be an absolute beauty!! People who see the value and quality will happily buy it. Is it? Everything you quote above is guess work and relying on Dapol getting it right and delivering their promises. From my perspective Dapol have a long history of this whilst I have a stud of Dapol locos that look good in a display case but it's a completely different story if you actually want to run them. £200 is an expensive decoration. If it lives up to the hype then fine but I will need to be convinced before parting with my cash. Interesting you are already positioning the class 50 right up there as a benchmark when they haven't been released yet so how can you know? Display models look good but that's a lot different to a production one on your layout. A standard DC class 50 also only attracts a RRP of £144.95. This isn't Dapol bashing before I'm accused, I'm just a customer with a history of disappointment and frustration with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Is it? Everything you quote above is guess work and relying on Dapol getting it right and delivering their promises. From my perspective Dapol have a long history of this whilst I have a stud of Dapol locos that look good in a display case but it's a completely different story if you actually want to run them. £200 is an expensive decoration. If it lives up to the hype then fine but I will need to be convinced before parting with my cash. Interesting you are already positioning the class 50 right up there as a benchmark when they haven't been released yet so how can you know? Display models look good but that's a lot different to a production one on your layout. . IMHO it is... I'm the customer who has faith in a brand that has delivered superb models to me. Not a single Dapol model I've had has had any issues which is what I wish I could say about the other brands. It's my opinion, I'm a happy customer and I've been more than impressed by what I've seen with the Class 50 so far including have a litle play with one of the running samples. Other companies on here have been all talk and done nothing but yet people back them blindly dumping every ounce of faith they can muster up. We all have had our experiences, I've shared mine and I trust the company because I've bought their models for years and had no issues. You've had a bad experience it's not my fault, I can't question your opinion. All I can suggest is drop DCC Supplies a message and they'll happily sort it out for your or replace it if they can. A standard DC class 50 also only attracts a RRP of £144.95 Your point being? Edited December 5, 2018 by MGR Hooper! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris M Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) My little fleet of over 20 Dapol locos all work hard. They require the odd bit of maintenance, especially the loco to tender wires, but non of them are shelf queens. Edited December 5, 2018 by Chris M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted December 5, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) The specs look good. Lets hope they live up to the hype & price. The above via Dapol's facebook page. Tom. Edited December 5, 2018 by TomE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The specs look good. Lets hope they live up to the hype & price. 47379769_2675550915795973_4337533600179159040_n.jpg 47434557_2675550902462641_886623348887388160_n.jpg The above via Dapol's facebook page. Tom. Think a higher quality one is available on their website....Facebook image quality isn't the best. Though being online via my phone could also be the issue. Anyway incase anyone finds the Facebook images blurred, here's a link direct to Dapol's website. https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-Battle-of-Britain-%20West-Country-Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Announced today https://www.Dapol.co.uk/Dapol-Battle-of-Britain-%20West-Country-Class £199.95 for a standard DC loco is eye watering and a price I just cannot justify paying Still £100 short of an equivalent loco from one of the Continental manufacturers. Perhaps they are just wealthier than us on the other side of the Channel.... Les 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted December 6, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2018 At least it will pull a decent amount if it has some die cast weight in it. Farish stuff looks lovely, but wouldn’t pull a chicken off a nest. If they did Barnstable in rebuilt form I’d buy it for nostalgic reasons (I had a HD one). Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Still £100 short of an equivalent loco from one of the Continental manufacturers. Perhaps they are just wealthier than us on the other side of the Channel.... Les Well, if you buy them from UK shops that might be true. In my local German model shop there are not many steam locos over EUR 200. And that would look a whole lot better price in pounds if it were not for Brexit sending the pound down against the Euro. Chris 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) At least it will pull a decent amount if it has some die cast weight in it. Farish stuff looks lovely, but wouldn’t pull a chicken off a nest. If they did Barnstable in rebuilt form I’d buy it for nostalgic reasons (I had a HD one). Tim I would have thought there was plenty of room inside a Spamcan for weight enough with or without the body shell being metal. My Fleischmann 2-10-0s with tender drive and traction tyres still seem to be able to see off all-comers. So perhaps I can work out a way to hack a Farish tender drive into the tender of a MN to give it more oomph. And it looks like you have found what to do as your next loco once you have finished Valour, Tim. I still have my HD Barnstaple, and the 3-rail track to run it on. Chris Edited December 8, 2018 by Chris Higgs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium CF MRC Posted December 8, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2018 My Barnstable was two rail, Chris. Any model that Dapol produce would only be an impulse buy and a showcase queen, but it might get finescaled if it were simple to do. Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I would have thought there was plenty of room inside a Spamcan for weight enough with or without the body shell being metal. Chris Not necessarily....Dapol obviously intend to do the original and rebuilt versions. So the chassis inside is going to be the same spec. I don't think Dapol will want to produce something non-standard. They'll be aiming for similar overall weight also of the two models. Having one heavier than the other isn't really standard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Higgs Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Not necessarily....Dapol obviously intend to do the original and rebuilt versions. So the chassis inside is going to be the same spec. I don't think Dapol will want to produce something non-standard. They'll be aiming for similar overall weight also of the two models. Having one heavier than the other isn't really standard. I thought they had announced that they no longer intend to do the rebuilt versions? Or is that just 'not yet'? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted December 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2018 I thought they had announced that they no longer intend to do the rebuilt versions? Or is that just 'not yet'? Chris They have said on their website, that rebuilt versions will follow. No timescales given for those however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I thought they had announced that they no longer intend to do the rebuilt versions? Or is that just 'not yet'? Chris I don't recall Dapol ever saying that. They said they'll follow up with the rebuilds. HTH? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Presumably the chassis is being designed to accommodate a rebuilt body and external valve gear, otherwise producing the rebuilt version would not be straightforward. There's no sign of Farish producing a rebuilt version of their MN. Edited December 9, 2018 by dpgibbons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpgibbons Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) Project update from Hattons. Given past delays and the absence of any project updates from Dapol I assume the Late 2020 delivery date remains highly elastic. https://www.hattons.co.uk/newsdetail.aspx?id=810&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=mar-0633-dapollightpacific-75yrs&fbclid=IwAR0CpfxHu9zl_neiDbAqjciTHf1L6uEuavR2F9p8t5O82qzGgnBeIe7aAUw Edited May 7, 2020 by dpgibbons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Kaput Posted May 8, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 8, 2020 Sadly that update has nothing actually new in it and the late 2020 date is pretty much plucked out of thin air and has about zero chance of happening 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted May 9, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2020 We haven't seen CADs, EPs or Livery Samples. Unless Dapol are going to pull a rabbit out of the hat, even late 2021 would be pushing it! Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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