RMweb Gold Andy W Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) The canal could well have been busy in the 50s, so loaded and empty narrow boats (please, not barges) may be in order. Might be an excuse to put Hoss to work. Adrian It's generally reckoned that the 1963 winter killed off most, but not all, of the remaining traffic on the narrow canals, including the BCN. This was because they were blocked by ice for about 3 months. I can remember the odd horse-drawn narrow boat working on the BCN as late as 1962 (there were contracts for moving household rubbish which wasn't exactly time sensitive), so "hoss" might need a decent set of shoes if BCB gets dated that far backwards. On the Spamcan front, I'm sure somewhere in a thread we have a mention of the FA Cup semi-final played at Villa Park in 1963 which produced 12 Spam-hauled specials from Southampton and surrounding area, into Snow Hill. From memory 9 ran up the logical route (Reading-Oxford-Banbury) but 3 went up the OWW via Worcester and Stourbridge and gained 8F pliots at Stourbridge because of Old Hill bank. Not quite the right bit of the Black Country, but Black Country nonetheless. Of course you'd need green stock. http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/60s/630427br.html Admittedly some were rebuilt Spams..... Edited March 2, 2014 by Andy W 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 Andy - are any of these any use for your Crab? http://www.lanarkshiremodels.com/lanarkshire models and supplies website_018.htm I'm glad I only have one crab !!!!!!! Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbishop Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 On the Spamcan front, I'm sure somewhere in a thread we have a mention of the FA Cup semi-final played at Villa Park in 1963 which produced 12 Spam-hauled specials from Southampton and surrounding area. And we were stuffed by a ricochet off Denis Law's bl**dy knee. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 It's generally reckoned that the 1963 winter killed off most, but not all, of the remaining traffic on the narrow canals, including the BCN. This was because they were blocked by ice for about 3 months. I can remember the odd horse-drawn narrow boat working on the BCN as late as 1962 (there were contracts for moving household rubbish which wasn't exactly time sensitive), so "hoss" might need a decent set of shoes if BCB gets dated that far backwards. On the Spamcan front, I'm sure somewhere in a thread we have a mention of the FA Cup semi-final played at Villa Park in 1963 which produced 12 Spam-hauled specials from Southampton and surrounding area, into Snow Hill. From memory 9 ran up the logical route (Reading-Oxford-Banbury) but 3 went up the OWW via Worcester and Stourbridge and gained 8F pliots at Stourbridge because of Old Hill bank. Not quite the right bit of the Black Country, but Black Country nonetheless. Of course you'd need green stock. http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/60s/630427br.html Admittedly some were rebuilt Spams..... As Andy w states there were a few very specific canal activities in the BCN after the 1962 big freeze. One specific charactor was caggy Stevens who operated both horse boat and tug boats after the big freeze on rubbish contracts and dredging. Another loss of traffic was power station coal tar waste as coal gas became less common. Oldbury's Thomas Clayton's fleet if tar boats was a Black Country standard. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Will the barge be re-floated ? Darlaston; we have a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 Darlaston; we have a problem. Boat2s.jpg Looks iced up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 What's the phrase "it will rub out"... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 2, 2014 Some progress on the next two pairs of twin bolsters: Fortunately the conversion of these and the Lowfit based ones was done early enough for them to also suit the proposed steam era BCB. Meanwhile a couple of RTR wagons that will be getting new wheels and a few small modifications: 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 3, 2014 It seems that some of the Gulf tankers had a trip back in time before they ended up on BCB... (Photo Mrkirtley800) 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2014 It seems that some of the Gulf tankers had a trip back in time before they ended up on BCB... Tankers.JPG (Photo Mrkirtley800) Fantastic..... I can just see the guards face as he looks out at his train. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 3, 2014 WTF?!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2014 Spotted a link to this film on another forum; lots of useful detail for anyone else modelling an ex-LNWR signal box - reminds me I still need to do an interior for ours too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVv-T2KRa7k&feature=youtu.be 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2014 WTF?!!! and I thought you were getting somewhere with your understanding of TOPS codes, they are TEAs not WTFs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2014 The signal box at 7:32 is Harrow No.2 - the one from where the signalman watched the Harrow disaster unfold. The lever numbering sequence is home, starter and then distant - this was a variation, I numbered your diagram with the other variation distant, home, starter - so the distant is before the home, not after the starter as in the opening sequence. (One box is Barton and Broughton) The train ends it's journey at Windermere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 4, 2014 Spotted a link to this film on another forum; lots of useful detail for anyone else modelling an ex-LNWR signal box - reminds me I still need to do an interior for ours too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVv-T2KRa7k&feature=youtu.be Cracking film Mark, I'll be doing a chunk of that route tomorrow but I doubt I see many Jubilees... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 4, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 4, 2014 and I thought you were getting somewhere with your understanding of TOPS codes, they are TEAs not WTFs Incorrect, they are WTF, Wagons Tank Fitted, shows how much you know. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2014 Looks like they are being sent back to where they came from due to containing the Wrong Type of Fuel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 5, 2014 Was That Funny? Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianvanorak Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 At least Gulf tankers are correct for the Black Country, the storage depot was opposite the site of Albion station across the canal on the Stour Valley line, under the wires but all the other features of the layout are present, just over the out of use level crossing from the Oldbury Road building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium wagonbasher Posted March 5, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 5, 2014 Looks iced up... You wouldn't be too hot yourself if you had received a cutting disc along your lower parts Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2014 At least Gulf tankers are correct for the Black Country, the storage depot was opposite the site of Albion station across the canal on the Stour Valley line, under the wires but all the other features of the layout are present, just over the out of use level crossing from the Oldbury Road building. Indeed, the Albion tanks are one of those "signature" trains we just had to try to include. On the Twin Bolsters I've been experimenting with using a spring on the AJ coupling instead of using a counterbalance weight to keep the coupling in the up (coupled) position: No uncoupling dropper added yet. Once the right way up the spring is hidden behind a wheel and the wire hidden by the brake gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I do like those single bolsters Mark, I'll be copying the method one day. Do you need any more loads making up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2014 Indeed, the Albion tanks are one of those "signature" trains we just had to try to include. On the Twin Bolsters I've been experimenting with using a spring on the AJ coupling instead of using a counterbalance weight to keep the coupling in the up (coupled) position: WP_20140305_020.jpg WP_20140306_004.jpg WP_20140306_005.jpg No uncoupling dropper added yet. Once the right way up the spring is hidden behind a wheel and the wire hidden by the brake gear. WP_20140306_007.jpg How about Kadees?! I've got a standard answer for folk who suggest I use AJs and three-links for shunting on Pencarrow and it's the one you use when someone mentions Kadees. ;-p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2014 I do like those single bolsters Mark, I'll be copying the method one day. Do you need any more loads making up? Thanks. Am I correct in thinking that the billets will become an outbound load when we switch to the steam era as opposed to being an inbound load in the diesel era? They are a perfect fit for both the Twin Bolsters and the Bogie Bolster Cs, but I've seen mention of 25' billets travelling on Double Bolsters (which were 27' long). Did the length of billets vary or would everything from our works be the same length? A few 25' billets (if that's appropriate) might be useful as I might add a few Double Bolsters to the steam era stock. I guess there'd also be a more varied range of steel section being produced too? I'm planning to scratchbuild a handful of diagram 1/400 single bolsters at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 6, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 6, 2014 Had a quick play with that Bachmann SHOC BAR last night (until a power cut put a stop to any further modelling). On examination the first thing I spotted was that the brake levers were on the wrong way round (i.e. pushing the lever down would take the brake off!). So the levers were removed; it was easier to slice the vees off too then trim and clean up afterwards. This is how far I'd got when the lights went out! As seems to be quite common these days, the wagon which the Bachmann model depicts the subject of one of Paul Bartlett's photos (B723206). 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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