RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 Just now, Matt37268 said: I don’t disagree with that, I do find it a tad amusing though that ‘the new badge’ shown in the photo isn’t the one that was approved. AIUI, it was only after the launch ceremony that the College of Heralds pointed out the inconsistency. They weren't involved in the early emblem, so there hadn't been an issue with handed versions of that. I've no idea why the were invoked for the 1956 version. Delusions of grandeur at the BRB? John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30 Like has been said, BR could have had any 'logo' they wanted and done anything with it, inc. a similar totem with some sort of Lion on it. But, for whatever reason, the new emblem was technically a heraldic Coat-of-Arms and so had to approved by The Lord Lyon. The main problem being that BR then wanted to have the Lion facing forward on each side of DMU driving motor vehicles, meaning right-facing Lions were required. Heraldic approval was only for left-facing Lions, this was pretty much a legally enforcable situation. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted January 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30 It seems odd as a flag with the heraldic device on it would automatically have two sides to the image. Mind you, Bullied had to have two designs for the Merchant Navy nameplates so that the flag was flying with the flagstaff towards the front of the loco. Jamie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted January 30 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30 41 minutes ago, keefer said: Like has been said, BR could have had any 'logo' they wanted and done anything with it, inc. a similar totem with some sort of Lion on it. But, for whatever reason, the new emblem was technically a heraldic Coat-of-Arms and so had to approved by The Lord Lyon. The main problem being that BR then wanted to have the Lion facing forward on each side of DMU driving motor vehicles, meaning right-facing Lions were required. Heraldic approval was only for left-facing Lions, this was pretty much a legally enforcable situation. Steam loco tenders and tank sides, too. The Southern Region in particular seemed to have quite a stock of the RH transfers to use up.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted January 30 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: Steam loco tenders and tank sides, too. The Southern Region in particular seemed to have quite a stock of the RH transfers to use up.... Right enough, i had my diesel blinkers on😁 Actually the SR could've used/needed them on EMUs. IIRC the criteria for a totem was not a driving car but a powered/motor vehicle - but most EMUs at the time would have at least one DMBS, 4/5/6 car units would have two. (A single, central MBS didn't come in until the BIG/CIGs) Edited January 30 by keefer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted March 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 (edited) The crew of 6990 Witherslack Hall* share the responsibility of topping up the water at Keighley on 21st March 2024, during the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway's steam gala. * A visiting loco courtesy of David Clarke Railway Trust & The Great Central Railway. Edited March 22 by 4630 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted March 22 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22 (edited) On 30/01/2024 at 13:19, Dunsignalling said: Steam loco tenders and tank sides, too. The Southern Region in particular seemed to have quite a stock of the RH transfers to use up.... I'm informed the SR attitude at the time ran something like "Bo££ocks, they look daft facing backwards". Edited March 22 by Dunsignalling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted March 23 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 23 L&Y Railway 52044 immortalised in a pencil sketch at Haworth engine shed on 21st March 2024. Photos taken with permission. 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted March 25 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 25 A hive of activity at Haworth engine shed on the morning of 21st March 2024 as the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway steam gala gets underway. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 When you need a model for your friends new single cover, get the DC to dress up..... 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 4630 Posted March 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28 Watching the road ahead. BR Standard 2 78022 shunts ahead at Keighley to wait for its next working on 21st March 2024 during the Keighley & Worth Valley Railway's steam gala. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 RIP Jed - photos c/o Dave Cresswell... 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Just now, Rugd1022 said: RIP Jed - photos c/o Dave Cresswell... I did mention his spirit was with us yesterday on the Wizzo tour out of Paddington and back through Jed territory (albeit via Coventry not Solihull!) Regards Guy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted April 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 17 Photographer unknown : Paignton, 1959... 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted April 17 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 17 Photo by Andrew Neil : Willesden TMD c.1966... 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted April 17 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Rugd1022 said: Photographer unknown : Paignton, 1959... I hope he got more than just a 'bob' if he was doing the whole engine. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted April 20 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 20 Photo by Russell Ashmore : Tinsley Driver Pat Burns gets on the phone at Sheffield Midland in June 1982... 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted May 3 Author Share Posted May 3 Photo c/o GWS collection : Reading in 1958 with members of the CMEE Department, l to r : Don Flook, Jack Dowsett, Ken Gibbs, Horrace Rhodda (possibly related to veteran Old Oak driver and ex- Arnhem paratrooper Jack Rhodda), Fred Kitchen, Dennis Norris. Behind them is ex-1908 built Steam Railmotor No.93, rebuilt as auto trailer 212 in 1935, retired into departmental service in 1956 and renumbered 0799014. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 4 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 4 212 is to Diagram A31, and is the prototype of a whitemetal Keyser kit. A consequence of it's SRM origins is that the bogie pivot is further 'in' from the end of the coach at this brake end than at the cab end. As the rebuilds employed three types of bogies, 9' 'Fishbelly' as shown here, 'American', as supplied with the K's kit, and Collett 7', this rather odd look looked even odder with the Collett bogies. There were two lots of the original SRMs, one built at Swindon and one outsourced up the road to Gloucester RC&W. This is a Swindon vehicle, with what had by then become the standard central vestibule passenger door; the Gloucesters had twin inward-opening doors. The kit has these, and as none of the Gloucester rebuilds were given American bogies, is incorrect in this respect. I have two of them at Cwmdimbath, both 'out of service' at present. One is W 207 W in crimson livery, and toplights plated in as per a photo in the Lewis book at Monmouth (Troy), a very different look. They are a bit basic, with no floor or interiors, but can of course be worked up, fun modelling. They are also very heavy, and as a pair are beyond the capacity of a (fully run in) Bachmann 4575. The other is none other than this one, W 212 W, with the door modified. This has been earmarked for a conversion and improvment to the best of my ability to represent the fairly similar-looking Diagram A10 W 28 W, which ran 1953-1956 at Tondu coupled to Diagram N W 37 W, on order from Rails when Dapol produce it. Working it up to a standard good enough to run with the Dapol N will be quite a challenge!!! It runs on the correct 9' Fishbellies from Stafford Road Works at Shapeways, superb runners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted May 9 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 9 KX Top Shed, 1926... 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted May 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9 21 minutes ago, Rugd1022 said: KX Top Shed, 1926... Suspect The General Strike? Many women worked in all sorts of industries, including Transport, in WW1, but were fairly soon ejected after the war. Some returned during the General Strike. "Homes fit for Hero's" and all that promise of fair shares never materialised after WW1. Working class and many middle class people voted in 1945 to ensure we all had a fairer chance in life thus avoiding the betrayal of 1918. Kind regards, 30368 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 30368 said: Suspect The General Strike? Many women worked in all sorts of industries, including Transport, in WW1, but were fairly soon ejected after the war. Some returned during the General Strike. "Homes fit for Hero's" and all that promise of fair shares never materialised after WW1. Working class and many middle class people voted in 1945 to ensure we all had a fairer chance in life thus avoiding the betrayal of 1918. Kind regards, 30368 You just have to look at their shoes, they wouldn't stay shiny for long in an engine shed. Edited May 9 by PhilJ W 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted May 9 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 9 47 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: You just have to look at their shoes, they wouldn't stay shiny for long in an engine shed. Very, very true, I suspect that you would not stay upright for long with such footwear. Do you think they were "Sweet Young Things" due for presentation to HRH if not already done so? Kind regards, 30368 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted May 9 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9 49 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: You just have to look at their shoes, they wouldn't stay shiny for long in an engine shed. Yes, they do look suspiciously NCIS*. * Not covered in sh... 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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