2251 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Mike, how was the 4-track section between Cheltenham and Glos defined? Thanks. With apologies for answering a question addressed to someone else, when that section was 4-track, the roads were the up main and up relief (towards Birmingham) and down main and down relief (towards Bristol). It was never two railways, one MR and one GWR, in parallel with different up/ down designations. North of Standish Jct, the GW and the MR had the same up/ down designation. Up was in the direction of Cheltenham St James/ Honeybourne/ Birmingham. The change happened at Standish Jct, where trains for Swindon became up trains, having been down trains (and vice versa). The quadruple track was a wartime project and it was only in place for only about 25 years – from 1942 to the mid-1960s. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Thanks; I don't mind who answers it... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Azuma dispatch at King's Cross. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted September 16, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Mike, how was the 4-track section between Cheltenham and Glos defined? Thanks. The GWR and LMS bits were at one time the opposite way round to each other in terms of Up and Down and the 1960 Sectional appendix shows them like that. The 1972 Sectional a Appendix notes a change of direction Between Standic sh Ju cn and Gloucester Yard jcn in Table A. It had definitely changed byt the time of resignalling and de-quadrification but whether it had changed then or when the earlier 1960s alterations were made at Standish Jcn I don't know. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 The layout at Trent station on the Midland main line famously allowed for great confusion, especially while the Nottingham-Melton Mowbray-Corby route was still open. For example, a down train standing in the platform at Trent, facing south, could be followed immediately by an up train standing in the same platform, also facing south: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_railway_station And on the Glasgow and Paisley Joint line, before grouping, Caledonian Railway trains going from Glasgow Central to Paisley Gilmour Street were ‘down’ trains. However, Glasgow and South Western trains from St Enoch’s to Gilmour Street were ‘up’ trains. That was because, before opening of the Glasgow, Barrhead and Kilmarnock Joint, the G&SWR route from Glasgow to Carlisle was by Paisley, Dalry and Kilmarnock. The different designations appear to have persisted into Grouping, but I don’t know for how long. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Being VERY pedantic; the lines through Trent station were labelled as follows (from west to east): 3rd Down Passenger Down Siding 2nd Down Passenger 1st Down Passenger ISLAND PLATFORM 1st Up Passenger 2nd Up Passenger 3rd Up Passenger Up Goods Then, alongside, there were the separate Down High Level Goods Up High Level Goods 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 The canine side of the railway... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted September 17, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 17, 2023 Do I spy a green enamel Reigate sign... ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 As is the don't touch conductor rails sign - mine is on the shed door 👍 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 18, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2023 21 hours ago, John Besley said: Do I spy a green enamel Reigate sign... ? Looking at the sheen and the lack of relief on the lettering, I suspect platyic/vinyl, but still looks great to see it in the proper colours! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted September 18, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2023 Three from Leamington Spa, c/o Gordon Bartlett / John Cash / John Ford collection... 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted September 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2023 Note the shiny boots on 2 of the footplate crew, proving you can work smart doing a dirty job... Richard Smith on the SDR was always immaculate in his turn out and if you fired for him you very quickly caught on and it became ingrained into you to look smart 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 On 17/09/2023 at 16:26, Southernman46 said: As is the don't touch conductor rails sign - mine is on the shed door 👍 Sorry to self quote but couldn't resist it ............................. 🙄 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted September 21, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2023 Photo by Andy Hoare from his flickr site : starting up 56 109 at Barrow Hill in 1982... 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2023 Sunday prayers... 13 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium rab Posted September 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: Sunday prayers... Tho job has brought them to their knees! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike 84C Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Anyone know who the driver is on the diesel at Barrow Hill ? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I don't do videos, but some may recognise this well-known YouTuber. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted September 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Peter Kazmierczak said: I don't do videos, but some may recognise this well-known YouTuber. chatting to him this morning in crewe as it happens! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Crumbs Jim; he gets around a bit. Makes me think of the Six Degrees of Separation; the idea that all people are six or fewer social connections away from each other. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rugd1022 Posted September 29, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2023 On 27/09/2023 at 09:27, Peter Kazmierczak said: Crumbs Jim; he gets around a bit. Makes me think of the Six Degrees of Separation; the idea that all people are six or fewer social connections away from each other. For the past two days I've been enjoying the hydraulic mega thrash at the SVR, chatting with some fellow Maybach obsessives / chaps of a certain age about half of us knew the same people back in the day. Names were being banded about like confetti prompting numerous memories and stories. I was chatting to a guy from Plymouth who started bashing Warships in '68 and he knew my instructor when I was a wee traction trainee, it turned out he also knew the same hydraulic and 50 bashing crowd too, he also served on the same RN ship as my dad, but not at the same time. Two more days to go at the gala with more chit chat to come no doubt. And while we're on the subject, is there anyone here who never met legendary Brummie Jed...? A few from the hydraulic bash, so far... 22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 821 and 832 getting the right away at Hampton Loade... 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted October 1, 2023 Author Share Posted October 1, 2023 821 and 832 running round at Bridgnorth this afternoon... 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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