Waverley Route new image links and discussion

['CHARD]

One of 60A's finest baby Sulzers is lurking at Carlisle:

http://www.railbrit.org.uk/images/27000/27299.jpg

['CHARD]

Winter at Stainton, and a V2, the sound effects must have been incredible:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370897.html

 

This is incredible too:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370863.html

 

top'n'tail brake van:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370899.html

 

Longtown trip:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370879.html

 

That signal at Canal Jct:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370869.html

 

Picture paints a thousand words:

http://oversands.fot.../p49370890.html

 

Kingmoor, but what a traction combo:

http://oversands.fot.../p49333151.html

 

 

BREATHTAKING, a shot for Millerhill Boy:

http://oversands.fot.../p49153550.html

 

Another EE Type 4 coming off the spur at Mossband: NEW LOCATION!

http://oversands.fot.../p49153579.html

 

why the photographer was really here:

http://oversands.fot.../p49153545.html look at the non-corridor coach in freight use ALERT!!!!

 

My top shot of Waverley Carflats yet - with those damned Minix Corsairs aboard!

http://oversands.fot.../p49153580.html

 

Canal Box

http://oversands.fot.../p48581679.html

 

No. No. No.

http://oversands.fot.../p48581924.html

http://oversands.fot.../p48581914.html - these are just two, there are more for you signalbox fiends

 

Longtown SB, master record study

http://oversands.fot.../p48581932.html

 

Check out the sidings that Longtown panel controlled!

http://oversands.fot.../p48581931.html

 

Awesome and handsome:

http://oversands.fot.../p48581900.html

 

And a quick leer at a Derby LW, one of Carlisle's albeit not on The Route:

http://oversands.fot.../p20563338.html

 

THAT'S ALL FOLKS!

[Stuart]

why the photographer was really here:

http://oversands.fot.../p49153545.html look at the non-corridor coach in freight use ALERT!!!!

 

Might this be the return working of the coach which turned 4S43 0630 Carlisle New Yard - Millerhill into a Class 2 passenger train between Riccarton and Hawick?

Described to me as the school train.....

 

Stuart

[Guest Max Stafford]

What a hellfire selection, there's so many scenes there that would be perfectly visible from my upstairs window if my house was a Tardis. I can't summon up sufficient superlatives for this collection! B)

 

Dave.

['CHARD]

Moving back in time somewhat with this contribution:

http://www.ssplprints.com/image.php?imgref=10328594

['CHARD]

'Chard - do you like this? This looks like a new collection that's not been up long on Fotopic - most photos only have a couple of views. Mike Delamar has already flagged the diesel photos, but there are some superb steam ones as well. I'm only part way through the collection, but I thought you might like to have a look yourself.

And here's me thinking I was going to get a day's work done!

 

This looks like an incredible collection, and the pic you've linked to shows the check-rails on the ascent from Riccarton more clearly than I've seen before. I'm amazed and delighted that we keep getting these new collections, great spot - cheers!

Edited January 4, 2012 by 'CHARD

[Guest Max Stafford]

A superb collection Peter and worth the look for the Kingmoor shots alone - oh, what glories mere yards outside my door then...!

Those Riccarton shots are amazing too. No date given, but I'd guess 1965 from the general context of the collection.

 

Dave.

['CHARD]

Yep, I'd go along with that assessment. From the set up of the collection this was a photographer on a mission to record different locos at a decent time before the end, and in that context the very ordinariness/ normality of the subjects resonates.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how much ex-LMS (and other) motive power was going about its normal business in my birth year! So a big thanks to 'CHARD's ma'n'pa for introducing me to traffic in time to actually have a footplate experience at 9H just before the end, aged not yet three

[64B]

Yep, I'd go along with that assessment. From the set up of the collection this was a photographer on a mission to record different locos at a decent time before the end, and in that context the very ordinariness/ normality of the subjects resonates.

 

It never ceases to amaze me how much ex-LMS (and other) motive power was going about its normal business in my birth year! So a big thanks to 'CHARD's ma'n'pa for introducing me to traffic in time to actually have a footplate experience at 9H just before the end, aged not yet three

 

There are more Waverley route photos in the Eastern Steam Steam Section showing Riccarton

http://georgestrainp.../p64136957.html

http://georgestrainp.../p64136823.html

http://georgestrainp.../p64136823.html

This one is my favourite albeit taken at Waverley

http://georgestrainp.../p64136971.html

I was lucky enough to be around as a youngster to witness scenes like this at the Waverley in the mid 60s.

Neil

[Guest Max Stafford]

Oh yeah baby, that's what I'm a' talkin' about...! B)

 

Dave.

['CHARD]

Neil, welcome to this most esteemed thread and thanks for those links (see, I am actually working really, not scanning those galleries ).

 

Your favourite is a good one of Prince P and I must say I've not come across many of her with the cab diagonal stripe, presumably because she only carried it for a relatively short period. Or have I just not noticed...?

 

The vertical smoke blast from the cartrain's inside loco is awesome, I'm trying to work out what cars they'll be, Anglias and MkI Cortinas probably...

 

EDIT: Fifers do very well out of this collection: this is an incredibly evocative image from the train of what I reckon is approaching Burntisland, does anyone recognise the classic Fife saloon bar? http://georgestrainp.../p64137221.html

 

Was there a photographer alive who wasn't at Hawick to capture Blue Peter?

http://georgestrainp.../p64136956.html

 

Were the GUVs full of cars, I wonder? 61029 at Riccarton: http://georgestrainpics.fotopic.net/p64137049.html

[64B]

Neil, welcome to this most esteemed thread and thanks for those links (see, I am actually working really, not scanning those galleries ).

 

Your favourite is a good one of Prince P and I must say I've not come across many of her with the cab diagonal stripe, presumably because she only carried it for a relatively short period. Or have I just not noticed...?

 

The vertical smoke blast from the cartrain's inside loco is awesome, I'm trying to work out what cars they'll be, Anglias and MkI Cortinas probably...

 

Hi Chard

A small number of the ScR ex LNER A3 and A4s had the diagonal yellow line applied around 1964, 60027 being another I recall. During 64/65 it was still possible to see A3s arriving at Waverley. I still clearly recall seeing A3s arriving on the Anglo-Scottish car carrier service during 1964 which was usually worked by an ER A3. Sadly I did not own a camera at that time however it is great to see some really good photos taken during that period through these web sites.

regards

Neil

['CHARD]

Oh Boy:

 

http://georgestrainp.../p64089884.html

 

 

and

Leith Central, with DMUs and Jockoes aplenty: http://georgestrainp.../p64089868.html - is that a Clayton on the extreme right of shot?

O/T but this is irresistible: http://georgestrainp.../p64092607.html

 

EDIT: strictly O/T - but good to see the art students of Hawick are a cultured lot http://www.hawickartforum.com/USERIMAGES/RhaeSykes.jpg

I reckon young Sykes is probably a WORRALLS fan

['CHARD]

Yep, that's a Clayton.

 

It's a pyre of Claytons!

 

EDIT : And elsewhere in web-land, this contemporary collection has appeared, the picture at the end of this link (all uncaptioned) I think being the southern portal of Bowshank tunnel, and how very unusual it is, wonder when all that austerity strengthening work was carried out... http://jonathanmcgur.../p64113955.html

 

Another edit to thank PH for PM-ing me this: http://georgestrainpics.fotopic.net/p64136962.html - Anglias and Corsairs, the Anglia Estate looks very high spec, what was the equivalent of Ghia?

[fegguk]

Moving back in time somewhat with this contribution:

http://www.ssplprint...imgref=10328594

 

This must be the back of Garfield street (demolished before my time) opposite what was the later to become the engineering sidings. My house is in the distance

[Durranhill]

- Anglias and Corsairs, the Anglia Estate looks very high spec, what was the equivalent of Ghia?

'CHARD' The word your looking for is Deluxe - which meant 2 tone paint, more chrome trim & a heater .

 

Stewart .

['CHARD]

Nice succinct history of the Langholm Railway at the end of this link, which for some reason I've not seen before. The page features one of Bruce Mac's atmospheric shots of a Class 20 crossing the A7 near the very end, of both the line and its existence...

http://www.langholm-....asp?PageID=213

 

And here: http://www.erichall.eu/2007s070.html some reflections of a different kind...

 

and if you don't wish to read the entire history of the settlement at Riccarton, here's the first picture I've seen which shows the railway village at its 'height' of 37 premises: http://www.erichall.eu/images/0807/0807186.jpg

[millerhillboy]

This one is my favourite albeit taken at Waverley

http://georgestrainp.../p64136971.html

Absolutely love that picture. Was never old enough to see such things but doesn't stop me trying to model them.

Hope you don't mind me posting this of PP in her cab stripe guise.

 

60100 her fellow 64A straggler also had the yellow stripe in later life. I'm not if '41 got it or not though.

 

What platform is Palatine standing at in the picture. Is it one of the round the back platforms, 8 or something these days?

[millerhillboy]

Leith Central, with DMUs and Jockoes aplenty: http://georgestrainp.../p64089868.html

Impeccably timed posting with pictures of Edinburgh 101's or should I say met-cams' 'Chard.

Currently got green Farish on WB getting attention including SC numbers etc

 

In that picture does anyone know if that is an overhead warning panel on the front glass of the unit and if so is it just the one?

Can anyone confirm if this was the norm for units of this era?

 

Thanks

CJ

['CHARD]

MH-Boy, I'm on a roll ATM so I can't comment while this awesome piece of footage is burning a hole in my clipboard.

 

Make sure you're sitting down, for one of the most poignant silent movies you'll see:

 

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=uXkwW3StjwQ

 

 

Ready for this EDIT these, it' they'll blow your socks off:

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-Gi1w06iX0&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SRsTLeVmquA

 

and last for now, what I think is 43139 on the last train to Silloth

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

[Jamie]

In that picture does anyone know if that is an overhead warning panel on the front glass of the unit and if so is it just the one?

Can anyone confirm if this was the norm for units of this era?

 

Yes, and seems to have become common pretty soon into the GSYP era. Not that I've got round to adorning mine though

[pH]

60100 her fellow 64A straggler also had the yellow stripe in later life. I'm not if '41 got it or not though.

60041 did get stripes, too. Here's a picture showing them.

[Pennine MC]

 

Another edit to thank PH for PM-ing me this: http://georgestrainp.../p64136962.html - Anglias and Corsairs, the Anglia Estate looks very high spec, what was the equivalent of Ghia?

 

 

'CHARD' The word your looking for is Deluxe - which meant 2 tone paint, more chrome trim & a heater .

 

 

 

Anglia Deluxes weren't necessarily two-tone, although a lot of the estates seemed to be. In modern money it would be something like an LX - one up from the entry level and with an acceptable level of creature comfort. As Stewart says, the 'Standard' (base) Anglia didnt even have a heater as standard.

 

The saloon in front of it is actually the higher spec - it's a Super, and would have had the 1200cc engine as standard vice the 997. It has even more chrome - there's a twin strip of it embracing the bodyside 'flash'. It looks like it's Ermine White and Dragoon Red, like my first car

[Jamie]

http://www.railbrit.co.uk/imageenlarge/imagecomplete2.php?id=29078

 

... and retreat to safe distance

['CHARD]

http://www.railbrit....e2.php?id=29078

 

... and retreat to safe distance

 

Oh no, I daren't, do I? Gonna watch Jeremy Kyle and make a coffee, run a cold bath and feed the cats while I get my mind ready for this.