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Yes, think you're right. Signal box would be on the other side of the train, so coming towards the camera in the shot of the front of the box on the page (another site) linked below:

http://www.signalbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2055&hilit=carlisle+canal

 

Sidings just visible beside that signal.

 

 

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There's been another swathe of Waverley shots (steam era) on Railbrit of late...

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I put it to you both then, that the train in the mystery photo is therefore approaching Canal Jct making for Carlisle, pretty much as Jamie has said. Excellent work; I had forgotten those sidings - they can't have been much by way of capacity, as the back of the train in the photo must still be some feet above the foaming Eden.

 

I'll pay Railbrit a visit soon, just secured some other photos from that same seller, more details when I've got them in my hand wink.gif

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That shot on Signalbox.org of Canal Junc. is superb - the best shot I've seen of the location. It's truly staggering to think that it's taken only forty years to go from this to an overgrown swamp, with no trace of owt remotely resembling a railway!

 

Dave.

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Welcome to the Glorious Month of May! And with a new month, a new old image link showing a steam train on a railway:

http://rniescottisha.../p62977477.html

 

Mainly just as a reminder to check out the incredible collections on Ernie Brack's site.

Oh, and because I've nearly finished the bridges loosely based on the two structures seen in the pic.

 

Can't resist adding this (EDIT), apropos of our discussion many months ago about signal boxes, for this is Melrose and it's faintly unusual:http://rniescottishailwayrchive.fotopic.net/p55112132.html

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The Melrose shot is a beauty. Amazing to think of the juxtaposition of this old steam age scene to the fact that just 13 days later, Yuri Gagarin had his 'Grand day Out'!

 

Dave.

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Sticking with the last day, and I'm not sure if we've had this before, but I just found this body of text relating to 1974's handling of one of the BR specials: http://www.brushtype...=74&s_loco=1974

 

And while we're on the subject of the 64B Nine, here's sister 1975 with a truly ScR headcode:

http://www.brushtype...g=1579020006000

 

And lastly for now, for any latecomers to the thread, here's a repeat of the link to some demolition trains on Geoff's Pages: http://www.geoffspages.co.uk/monorail/bmcc/execution/index.htm

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That pasted on headcode must have been done somewhere over the border. A more regular ScR headcode would read like ' zero - F - cant-bearsed...! ;)

 

Dave.

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That pasted on headcode must have been done somewhere over the border. A more regular ScR headcode would read like ' zero - F - cant-bearsed...! ;)

 

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I don't think they were pasted Dave - came across two locos (Brush 4s) via Flickr, they had black-on-white headcodes presumably experimental. Afraid at nigh on 2300hrs I'm not going back digging for them at the moment :lol: But I shall try and have a look tomorrow, check that D1975 was one of them, and I'm not talking out my posterior.

 

Funnily enough, it was the fact I thought they'd be right up 'Chard's street that's made them stick in my mind!

 

>> as I remembered the photie, have it anyway - not 1975, but have a look anyway:

Black on white

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I don't think they were pasted Dave - came across two locos (Brush 4s) via Flickr, they had black-on-white headcodes presumably experimental. Afraid at nigh on 2300hrs I'm not going back digging for them at the moment :lol: But I shall try and have a look tomorrow, check that D1975 was one of them, and I'm not talking out my posterior.

 

 

There were two WR ones reported in the contemporary 'Railway Magazine' as being done c1968/69; 1927 I can remember fairly reliably cos I saw it (on the evening York - Hull parcels of all things), possibly 1930 although I'm not sure why that one comes to mind. Similarly 1965 rings a bell, though without checking that sounds LMR-ish and I might be inventing itwink.gif Dont think I've ever come across 1975 before, but it does look all regularly spaced and intentional rather than a pasted lash-up

 

 

 

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Oh yes indeed; Brush Type 4 headcode deviancy is in my DNA. D1547's no blinds whatsoever look is something of a favourite, and D1958's teeny stickers on the glass solution another Waverley winner. I think they were way back on page 76 of this thread, so we're long overdue some more wink.gif

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well seeing as I'd nothing better to do, D1975:

http://diesel-image-.../p62272246.html

but wink.gif ...

http://davesyorkshir.../p57711924.html

 

I sense a minor diversion here. Still interesting though, despite the recently imposed Galloway diesel moratorium.

 

The first is an awesome weathering resource, also reinforcing the maroon vs blue LHCS demographics of the day - and the previous picture in its set is yet another great neglected headcode on one of the all-singing all dancing 64B Nine, so that's useful too.

 

The second poses a real conundrum - but a fairly accurate dating could be worked out from the fact that the line to the right has been freshly lifted. I imagine the same sojourn on depot that provided the FYE also bestowed the experimental blinds.

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well seeing as I'd nothing better to do, D1975:

http://diesel-image-.../p62272246.html

but ;) ...

http://davesyorkshir.../p57711924.html

 

I sense a minor diversion here. Still interesting though, despite the recently imposed Galloway diesel moratorium.

 

This one, the second of the 2 links above, is one of mine:

 

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D1975 November 1965 at Arthington

 

Sorry, on fotopic some of my photos are not captioned on the large size image, but they all have captions on the index pages.

 

David

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There were two WR ones reported in the contemporary 'Railway Magazine' as being done c1968/69; 1927 I can remember fairly reliably cos I saw it (on the evening York - Hull parcels of all things), possibly 1930 although I'm not sure why that one comes to mind.

 

 

An unusual example of serendipity, I actually found a useful mag clipping without particularly looking and within twelve months of it being relevantblink.gif Railway Mag April 69, the shot is of 1930 GFYE alongside a Western and the caption states it's one of two on the WR (hence also 1927 above). Reason is said to be to increase visibility at night

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Very slightly OT but worth a reference to you Waverley route guys.

Take a meander through the photostream.

 

Whitrope Heritage Centre.

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From the Graham Walker site linked elsewhere by Mike D. You'd be hard put to tell it was Melrose, but the headcode doesnt liewink.gif

 

Edit - Melrose again with a 26, and a 47 at Longtown

 

OMG!

 

D17 looks as though her l/h box front is green (or blue?) rather than yellow. That really is a 'glimpsed' or 'snatched shot,' and is all the more captivating for it, looming over the greenery. I'm guessing she's crossing a road bridge at Darnick, saddo that I am.

 

The 26 is also a really unusual and interesting picture - extremely nice weathering on a BFYE Inverness loco (future W/B material) - the 60A sisters really were prolific by this date - and another mixed rake of MkIs, a maroon vehicle is pretty much mandatory.

 

As for 4M65, words can't do it justice. But we can try. That's the first picture of a diesel loco I've seen precisely there, shot from the Down platform ramp. A very mixed consist indeed - far more variety than the vans and Containers in 5-planks we're used to so late in the line's life. My money's on this being one of our old favourites the 64B Nine again. I'm thinking D1968. Lovely lovely pic. Can't believe these keep surfacing, it's not even my official birthday. wink.gif

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Very much up the top end of the Route I know, but a lovely class 8 consist behind a Clayton, wonder where this working/ target hailed from?

http://www.flickr.co...57608592915935/

 

Away from the Waverley but still in the Borders here's a Brush Blue Type 4 in 1966 allegedly!http://www.flickr.co...57608592915935/

 

(with thanks to Jamie for linking this gallery on the ScR Class 20 thread)

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That's epic - it looks exactly as you describe wink.gif

 

But not, incidentally, as the caption would have us believe... do we think 5316 was a 60A engine at this time? Whatever we think about that, she was certainly a /0 blink.gif

 

Anyway, while you're on, what does anyone think is the approximate 'colour' for the omnipresent SR four-wheelers? It might've been Larry that described it as unique crud, certainly the one in the Stromeferry pic is as I remember them. And that ain't no colour from Beeching's palette wink.gif

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More likely '26 or '36, going by the round buffers and tab catcher!

 

Dave.

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Probably false memories here, but I do somehow think 5336 was early enough into BFYE for it to be her. Last Days of the Moray Coast pictures spring to mind.

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More likely '26 or '36, going by the round buffers and tab catcher!

 

 

 

Or '46, which I think was another early blue 'un.

 

Anyway, while you're on, what does anyone think is the approximate 'colour' for the omnipresent SR four-wheelers?

 

I'd use several coats of a brown/black mix, washed, drybrushed and stippled and built up steadily and varied in shade, so as to almost but not quite completely obliterate the base livery. They always look overall brown in photos but somehow it doesnt quite translate to a model

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