Andy Y Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 When I've formatted MI into the print version for BRM I'd retained its original landscape format. Opinion seems divided on this; do people dislike rotating a mag to look at some content? Some readers recognise that it displays the image well without the spine interrupting the image but some feel it makes it more difficult to hold the magazine rigid whilst reading. Some just like it because it's different. I'm not precious about it but at least it's a distinguishing attribute but I'm happy to take input from people by reply and/or through the poll option. Your input could determine in which of the two forms the next MI appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hello Andy, From my viewpoint Portrait is always preferable for a 'wide' image for the very reason you've identified - it displays the full image without the interruption of the mag spine. It seems to be a prime example of Murphy's law that important detail is lost/ obscured in the spine fold when a wide image is spread across two pages, especially where perfect binding is used. Pictures just don't look 'right' to me with the page fold down the middle. Regards, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 From my viewpoint Portrait is always preferable for a 'wide' image for the very reason you've identified - Thanks John, Just to eliminate any confusion normal magazine pages are portrait format whereas turning the image through 90 degrees as I've done in the last printed MIs is known as a landscape page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coombe Barton Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Landscape for me. images are not split it's 'different' and makes it stand out. it keeps it as a separate identity It keeps your, what are arguably the best photographs in any model railway mag, in the same format as the online version. i.e. similar brand identity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Taz Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 +1 for landscape. The images are what make MI so special and landscape displays them best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 +1 Landscape just prefer it XF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I would vote for landscape - and I particularly like the subversive introduction of inspirational models that may not be entirely British. Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Landscape for me too. Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 Landscape here as well - but don't get too precious about it, if an image deserves portait eg dark satanic mill chimney then use portrait where it's best-suited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wot they all said. Landscape. Conflicts of general landscape page format with photos that really do justify being in large portrait format would be quite rare I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Conflicts of general landscape page format with photos that really do justify being in large portrait format would be quite rare I suspect. That's true as our subject is generally very linear but sometimes a portrait shot just looks more 'right'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave777 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Is having the articles in portrait but the stunning images in landscape a possibility? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2012 I generally prefer Landscape format, and don't mind having to rotate the magazine, if necessary. However, that photo in post 11 is stunning in Portrait (it probably would be if it was rotated at 45 degrees to the page!). Which layout is it from, Andy? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Which layout is it from, Andy? It's on Leamington Spa which will feature in the next print MI, one way round or the other! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 I don't like turning a magazine or a book around, so I don't like landscape. I don't mind a photo across the middle of the centre pages (ie. with staples in the middle). Perhaps a link could be included for anyone who wants an electronic version of the photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold D9020 Nimbus Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 Bearing in mind that BRM (like all model railway magazines now) is perfect bound, I think that landscape works best for the large photographs which are the predominant content of this section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 CK, you cannot be serious! Landscape makes sense. Most photographs are taken in this format, says he generalising, and with a digital or film SLR a conscious effort is required to go vertical. Rotating the printed page through 90 degrees is a small price to pay if an image is to be seen at its finest. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 Hi Andy, The full A4 pictures are too large for comfortable viewing at normal reading distance of about 10". As printed now, they need to be held at arm's length for best effect, as a calendar for example. Some of them have been printed too large anyway, with jpeg artefacts visible (the Pempoul pictures for example). My vote is for Portrait page printing, with the image sizes reduced to fit across half a page. i.e. maintaining the image aspect ratio as Landscape. Please don't split them across the binding which always spoils a picture, especially when perfect bound. Those who want to see much larger images can always use the zoom function on the online version. regards, Martin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ427 Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Landscape generally works for me but Metr0Land also makes a very valid point about mixing orientation where appropriate. I also like the fact that it's different - it sets it apart from other mags as well as from the main BRM content. It helps give it that feel of something to keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2012 Thanks AJ427 - just to add a bit in the vein of 'I wish i'd thought of it when posting earlier' Surely this is Modelling Inspiration therefore should be artistically led? How can we say it's only inspirational if it's landscape/portrait and never t'other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Chris116 Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2012 In my view photos which fit the page best in Landscape should be printed that way and those that are best in portrait should be printed that way. Just don't allow any of them to go across two pages as it always spoils it. I have not voted in the poll as you do not give the option to vote for printing photos the way they best fit the page! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dave.C Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Landscape Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandman Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 If MI has to be incorporated into BRM it should be printed as portrait. GordonS is correct in saying that a full page landscape picture is to big to look at properly at normal reading distances. A half page landscape picture on a portrait page would be big enough. I help edit and do the layout for a magazine on mosaics, a truely visual medium and we very very rarely use a picture printed across two pages. Artists are probably even more fickle than modellers and thay are more than happy to have a landscape picture fill half a portait page and still appreciate all the detail that can be found in a mosaic. If MI has to be produced as a landscape magazine then why not have it as a stand alone supplement bagged with BRM. At least you would not have a whole magazine to turn on its side to appreciate the fantastic pictures and layouts that MI is known for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Neil Posted October 24, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 24, 2012 I'm with Capt Kernow and Mr Wynn preferring portrait to landscape for magazine browsing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 If MI has to be produced as a landscape magazine then why not have it as a stand alone supplement bagged with BRM. Don't start that one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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