RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 Thanks to Derek Holmes on Freightmaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 Looks like someone has been getting rid of some surplus power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 wow! how many of those engines would actually be running? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Looks like the front loco was under power, and the last loco was acting as a DPU under control of the front loco. Some of them may have been withdrawn. Notice that the Union Pacific lettering had black lines obscuring it on some of the loco's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 I think all the ex-UP locos - with the UP name obscured - were actually SD40T-2s. This was not a widely sold model compared to the SD40-2, being made, at an extra cost of $20k per unit, for Southern Pacific and Rio Grande. Unless these are SD40-2s subsequently converted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
armchair modeler Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Come on! There must be a story behind this. Is it a multiple withdrawal all heading for the scrappers torch? If not, how can so many locos all end up in what must be the wrong place? Armchair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevpeo Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I lost count!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 No SD40T-2s were converted, they were all built that way. The UP had a big surprise after its merger with SP when it found the SP locos were in far worse shape than they'd thought. The SP always had a press image better than the reality, which was ramshackle and make-do. Fun to model, not fun in the real world! The UP made major orders of SD70Ms to replace all the SP locos they thought they could keep using. In the past 15 years, the UP has pretty much completely rebuilt the former SP, to the point that many locations are no longer recognizable from their pre-merger state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugsley Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I think all the ex-UP locos - with the UP name obscured - were actually SD40T-2s. This was not a widely sold model compared to the SD40-2, being made, at an extra cost of $20k per unit, for Southern Pacific and Rio Grande. Unless these are SD40-2s subsequently converted? i don't think any were converted, they must all be ex SP and DRGW SD40T-2s acquired in the merger - I made it 29 of them in the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 probably scrap, possibly heading for one of the rebuild programs. It looks like all the units are NREX leasors... Apart from the four BNSF tractors providing the power that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1905 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 It looks like a revenue move of dead engines going to a locomotive rebuilder/scrapper. Over the years I have seen several of those moves. I remember a 40-50 unit move of ex-MP GP35's and U30C's from Texas to Chicago for scrapping/rebuilding. A significat number of those engines in the video would have not been in running order. The UP is getting rid of all pre-SD60 engines, except for a few SD40-2's that have been rebuilt for yard/local service. Back in the 1990's the UP would run weekly 25 unit power moves of good power out of LA to N Platte and Chicago. They were in good order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Here's an ex-Rio Grande unit at Larry's Truck and Electric, just patched. LTE would give them a test startup and determine which ones went out as lease and which got parted out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Here's one still running as of 2004. They didn't last much longer, at least as UP locos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 Here's one still running as of 2004. They didn't last much longer, at least as UP locos. Is that an SD45 with the flared radiators next to it? Must be even older! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Is that an SD45 with the flared radiators next to it? Must be even older! Not likely - almost certainly an SD70M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Nope, it's an SD70M flare -- the trucks are a giveaway. As part of its last gasp, though, the SP got Morrison-Knudsen SD40Ms mostly in SD45 bodies, which could be deceptive: These didn't last very long, either. I don't believe any original SD45s made it to UP via the SP merger (they had 50 of their own, out by the early 1980s), although someone might be able to correct me; I did see one or two SD45T-2s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Dam the secrets out ,there all coming to HELM :no: Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2012 Does the "NREX" written under each loco's number mean anything? Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 NREX = National Railway Equipment Co. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Does the "NREX" written under each loco's number mean anything? Happy modelling. Steven B. NREX have done some of the worst patch jobs around..!!! Look what they did to the Wisconsin Central's #2500:- http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1192177 Worth saying too that these locos in the OP are pretty much 1970's engines; SD40s were built between 1972 and - for the US market - 1984, according to Wikipedia. How many 1970s diesels are still running in the UK? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 NREX have done some of the worst patch jobs around..!!! Look what they did to the Wisconsin Central's #2500:- http://www.rrpicture...aspx?id=1192177 Worth saying too that these locos in the OP are pretty much 1970's engines; SD40s were built between 1972 and - for the US market - 1984, according to Wikipedia. How many 1970s diesels are still running in the UK? Not many 1970s locos I would think but quite a few 1960s built from Classes 20, 31, 37, 47 and 73 (the latter are electro-diesel) plus there are probably still some 1950s built 08s plus 1960s built 08s and 09s. Altogether that makes several hundred in mainlie-ish service although if you take out the shunters there probably only just over 100. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 4, 2012 Come on! There must be a story behind this. Armchair Yes. The coupling broke on the first wagon. You should have seen the length of the train!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted November 4, 2012 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2012 I can't understand why it is called a light engine move. At over 200 tons each that is a Very Heavy engine move. UP still has quite alot of SD40's of various sub types in local and yard service. As to the patches. They have to carry a valid loco number to be moved so NREX woulkd have just put their letters on them. If they had still been owned by UP they may well have received WP reporting marks. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
49395 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If they had been lashed together there can't be much that 105000 horsepower can't shift... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If they had been lashed together there can't be much that 105000 horsepower can't shift... But how would the drawgear cope? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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