billyb_imp Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 That's very impressive Duncan I am hoping to have a first go at some weathering later this week (as a relief from track laying) I shall be looking in here, Andy P's various threads, Jason's threads & Nick (rs4) for inspiration & guidance I don't think Nick is a Lunester so you may not have seen is weathering of wagons, well worth a look at http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67720-examples-of-my-weathering/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Thanks Billy The main problem I had was finding any photos of the inside of a water tower tank that was out of use. A couple more buildings to make and weather before I start on a couple of trial wagons. Certainly not brave enough yet to tackle a loco. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyb_imp Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Thanks Billy The main problem I had was finding any photos of the inside of a water tower tank that was out of use. A couple more buildings to make and weather before I start on a couple of trial wagons. Certainly not brave enough yet to tackle a loco. Duncan Duncan I am hoping to have a go at some wagons in the next few days, five mineral wagons arrived yesterday from Parkside, so need to build one or two then jump in with my paintbrush & weathering powders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Billy Thanks for the link. If any of mine turn out anything close to that I'll be happy. Hopefully you'll post details of your wagon build so we can see the progress. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted March 31, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2013 Great water tower, Duncan. Maybe you could have a rotting carcass in there - a rat or a largish bird, maybe. I was going to suggest a cat but then I remembered all you cat lovers out there.... Nah Maybe some nesting birds instead... Keep the modelling going.. I'm sorely in need of some inspiration myself to get me motivated - too many other railway distractions, sometimes. I'll get there - eventually. A general tip. As people usually suggest we tone down our whites so they don't glare, so the same could be said for the use of black - leave the darkest dark for the deepest shadows. Give yourself room for manoeuvre at both ends of the contrast range. Your door and lintel may work better weathered down a bit more leaving the grooves/shadows darker not forgetting to add some lighter highlights. Hope you don't mind the suggestion. I did a couple of art courses some years back and one thing I remember being told was to "look in the shadows." Those "shadows" were on a huge black curtain over the college windows which wasn't, in fact, "black" - only bits of it were anywhere near black. Thus I discovered that shadows had more shadows within shadows... It certainly opened my eyes. And model railway modellers talk about rivet counters.... you should try the art world. Just don't get me going on shape, form and structure. Polly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 Polly Thanls for the constructive critisism, it's really apreciated. I've got a little bit more to do on it and the suggestions are great. I have to admit that I do like the idea of nesting birds in there, something I might have to look into at a later date. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Following the suggestions from Polly, I've done a bit more work on the water tower. However, I'm not convinced that I've cracked it yet. Comments, criticism and thoughts will certainly be considered. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgeT Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 l think its starting to very good, looks really rusty to me... georgeT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted April 3, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2013 The lintel looks a lot more convincing now. If the door is made of wooden planks, a few thin parallel lines (not too dark, possibly using colouring pencils) would make a lot of difference. For something to copy, put the following words in Google Images: "old painted door" and you'll be amazed at the affects you might want to achieve. You're doing great. Polly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyb_imp Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Duncan the effect you have with the rust on the water tower is excellent, it really gives it some depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 Thanks guys. Polly. I have to agree with you about the door. I had originally scribed it but probably not deep enough so I've googled the old painted door and seen what you mean. I'm going to have a go at it tonight and hopefully get some pictures up . Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 OK. So another attempt to get the door right. I'm still not convinced that I've quite managed to get it right, yet. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWallace Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thanks Billy The main problem I had was finding any photos of the inside of a water tower tank that was out of use. A couple more buildings to make and weather before I start on a couple of trial wagons. Certainly not brave enough yet to tackle a loco. Duncan Heh, if I'd have known that I would have told you to hold on - apparently there's an unused water tank in the loft of my new house, you could have come around and removed it for me... Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Matt Thanks for the offer. But I think after being in the loft, it wouldn't quite fit the bill :jester: Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Great water tower, Duncan. Maybe you could have a rotting carcass in there - a rat or a largish bird, maybe. I was going to suggest a cat but then I remembered all you cat lovers out there.... Nah Maybe some nesting birds instead... Keep the modelling going.. I'm sorely in need of some inspiration myself to get me motivated - too many other railway distractions, sometimes. I'll get there - eventually. A general tip. As people usually suggest we tone down our whites so they don't glare, so the same could be said for the use of black - leave the darkest dark for the deepest shadows. Give yourself room for manoeuvre at both ends of the contrast range. Your door and lintel may work better weathered down a bit more leaving the grooves/shadows darker not forgetting to add some lighter highlights. Hope you don't mind the suggestion. I did a couple of art courses some years back and one thing I remember being told was to "look in the shadows." Those "shadows" were on a huge black curtain over the college windows which wasn't, in fact, "black" - only bits of it were anywhere near black. Thus I discovered that shadows had more shadows within shadows... It certainly opened my eyes. And model railway modellers talk about rivet counters.... you should try the art world. Just don't get me going on shape, form and structure. Polly Well said Pollyurathane Wotsit, Colouring is very subject, and every ones eyes are different, Bodgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Following the suggestions from Polly, I've done a bit more work on the water tower. However, I'm not convinced that I've cracked it yet. Water_Tower_Door_Weathered.JPG Comments, criticism and thoughts will certainly be considered. Duncan Hi Duncan yes much better and practice make perfect, Bodgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thanks Andy. One of the things I'm learning is although we can learn a lot from the military modellers, we can learn even more from the art world. It doesn't help that I really haven't had much interest in art techniques before now. This may stem from the fact that I've never been good at art. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think I've gone as far as I can with the water tower. Tomorrow, I'm planning to get the soldering iron out and chip one of my locos. If I feel brave enough after thar, it will be a case of attacking the body and fitting lights. We'll just have to see. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted April 4, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thanks Andy. One of the things I'm learning is although we can learn a lot from the military modellers, we can learn even more from the art world. It doesn't help that I really haven't had much interest in art techniques before now. This may stem from the fact that I've never been good at art. Duncan Hi Duncan Great door and lintel. What a difference. Now you've learnt Rule/Secret no. 1: Draw/paint what you SEE not what you know. You'll get better from now on in. I only hope my own layout comes up to what I 'preach'. I've just started a mock up of the shed - at last. I'll pass you over to someone else for locos, though - not my thing (yet) Best wishes Polly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Thanks Polly. It's one area I didn't expect to enjoy. It's been a massive learning curve. The Lunesters have been a great help though. I'm now finding that constructing and weathering buildings to produce a more realistic result is easier now I'm taking time and seeing rather than looking at photos. As for the locos, the electrics don't worry me. What does is the possibility of ruining one of my loco bodies Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Today is going to have to be recorded as an unmittigating failure as far as Oxted Park is concerned. The loco that runs perfectly on DC has refused point blank to work on DCC. It's been stripped and cleaned, serviced, run on DC again, had a decoder from a known working loco put in and it still refuses to play. Time to walk away and look at it again tomorrow. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 After a realy bust week, I decided to do some more work to the Bedford TK. All I wanted to do was make the replacement rear wheel guard. This should have been a nice simple job, or so I thought. After five attempts where none of them looked even close to what I was trying to achieve, I gave up. If I'm not working tomorrow, I'll have another go. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted April 21, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2013 Nice job on the water tower Duncan. It's been a while since I've looked in here. I'll start to visit a bit more often. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 Thanks Jeff. Hopefully, I'll be able to finish off the Bedford this week and if the weather holds there is a possibility of it being painted and weathered as well. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted April 24, 2013 Author Share Posted April 24, 2013 After several more attempts to get the rear mud guard area right and a lot of head scratching, I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT. The problem has been the mountings for the mud guards. Nothing plastic that I have looks right. I've now realised that I need to use very fine rods of metal that will mount to the chassis and support the mud guards. I just need to find something suitable around the house. No further progress is going to take place today and I'll be off-line till later this evening. Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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