leopardml2341 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Crikey, MD! Is that a regular working? Rough date? And, where is its nameplate? Apologies if that is a lot of questions, but a photo like that invites them. Kevin Following the flickr link will answer most, Kevin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Here is a nice short parcels train in 1976: https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/22024141764/ What's the first vehicle behind the loco? The second looks like an LMS BG though I doubt the G in BG is still justified. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Here is a nice short parcels train in 1976: https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidwf2009/22024141764/ What's the first vehicle behind the loco? The second looks like an LMS BG though I doubt the G in BG is still justified. LMS-designed CCT, as modelled by Hornby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Something from a bit further back - a train we were working on on Grantham this weekend. Photos by Graham Nicholas. Here an overall view of the train, which was an evening working from King's Cross to Holgate Sidings, York, I believe. Parcels and ECS. It stopped at Grantham to change locos and allow some of the northbound streamliners to overtake. We wanted to record the consist as this formation ran without derailing, while the combination I'd put together at Grantham did struggle through some of the older PECO slips. From the loco: Hornby LMS horsebox (a quick and dirty way to get a Kadee onto the front of the train), MSE LMS horsebox (not sure who has this kit now), Kirk 51' Gresley BG, D & S GCR CCT (now available from the GCRS), D & S GNR Luggage Brake, D & S LNER 32' General Van. Roger Chivers NER high roof CCT, D & S LNER pigeon van, MicroRail Midland CCT (available from David Geen), 2 D & S GNR horseboxes, D & S GER 32' CCT, D & S GNR 32'6" Luggage Brake. D & S do regularly issue 4mm lists, so rather than fund the Ebay profiteers, do keep an eye out on here or the LNER Encyclopedia for an announcement or drop Danny an SAE. Edited October 26, 2018 by jwealleans 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium coronach Posted November 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 10, 2015 Really interesting thread with great pictures. Parcels trains are some of the most interesting formations. During the late 70s I remember watching the Saturday morning arrival at York being shunted from what was platform 16 into the sidings after being unloaded. That train was sometimes longer than the platform and included vans from all four pre-nationalisation companies including LMS BGs, GUV, Stove R, Gresley BG, Thompson BZ, loads of southern vans and the occasional GWR syphon G. I am making up a couple of rakes for my Waverley Route model.... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium coronach Posted November 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2015 A few more vehicles from a parcels train on my Waverley route layout... 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2015 For those of you (im)patiently waiting for Class 71's (I don't think we've had this?)E5010 at Denton by Peter, on Flickr 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted November 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2015 And a 74 though you can't see much of the trainClass 74 ED 74003 in Poole Yard by LOUIS DALBY, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 For those of you (im)patiently waiting for Class 71's (I don't think we've had this?) E5010 at Denton by Peter, on Flickr Nice The Thames & Medway canal with some water in it ! Presumably a vacuum piped brakevan in the train too That's not the conductor rail running just above the track but the timber 33kV feeder cable route Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted November 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2015 Presumably a vacuum piped brakevan in the train too Quite common, had to keep the Guard warm somehow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Short one. https://flic.kr/p/twXK6p 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 9f hauled. https://flic.kr/p/CgJoT6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovex Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Sorry if this has been dealt with elsewhere but presumably a parcels train could be split and added to during its journey from A to B. So us modellers wanting to add a bit of interest to usual train comes into station, stops and then leaves again. So we could model these movements. Train comes in, couple of vehicles removed from front or back and shunted into a bay. Perhaps a couple of vehicles added from the bay added to the back or front. Remarshalled train pulls out. Later in the day parcels train heading somewhere else comes in, vehicles in the bay added, train pulls out again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 19, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2016 Sorry if this has been dealt with elsewhere but presumably a parcels train could be split and added to during its journey from A to B. So us modellers wanting to add a bit of interest to usual train comes into station, stops and then leaves again. So we could model these movements. Train comes in, couple of vehicles removed from front or back and shunted into a bay. Perhaps a couple of vehicles added from the bay added to the back or front. Remarshalled train pulls out. Later in the day parcels train heading somewhere else comes in, vehicles in the bay added, train pulls out again There was a litle less of that when BRUTE working came in in the mid-60s. The formations remained more fixed, while each station added BRUTE trolleys in equal number to those that it removed. But yes, vans, like wagons, were added, detached, shunted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2016 Not sure if this counts as a traditional parcels train but was prob traditional for this route in the 1980's. Also people often ask about tail loads for DMU's 970 Machynlleth 19 juni 1985 by peter_schoeber, on Flickr 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Metr0Land Posted January 31, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2016 A couple for people who want a minimum space parcels that's a bit different (afraid neither image can be embedded). Sc55013 in faded green livery at Perth 1971 with blanked-out windows, and later (still in green) withdrawn at Falkirk (unidentified date) https://flic.kr/p/p87STM https://flic.kr/p/xmqbYb 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Disappearing Gloucester #1 by Roger Marks, on Flickr P 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulprice Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 This is no good you are all making me want to model parcel trains now, and I have so many other formations to complete first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2016 Disappearing Gloucester #1 by Roger Marks, on Flickr P Some interesting vehicles towards the back - third from rear (behind a signal post) is a BR Standard goods brake van. The red van in front of that looks rather 'non standard' - might be an ex LNER GUV? - then in front of that possibly two Southern 4-wheelers - does anybody else think one of them might be one of the 'birdcage' Night Ferry brake vans? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 2, 2016 Struggled to orientate that Gloucester shot initially but can now see its Eastgate looking north I think the birdcage van is an illusion - another vehicle behind the train perhaps? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Some interesting vehicles towards the back - third from rear (behind a signal post) is a BR Standard goods brake van. The red van in front of that looks rather 'non standard' - might be an ex LNER GUV? - then in front of that possibly two Southern 4-wheelers - does anybody else think one of them might be one of the 'birdcage' Night Ferry brake vans? You could be right about the vehicle with the raised portion of roof- I can't think of anything similar that would have been in service then. I saw S3S, freshly painted in Rail Blue, at Swansea High St in the very early 1970s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2016 Note that as usual we have a BR Brake Van about 3 from the back. Got to keep the guard warm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm inclined to agree about the PLV with the lookout - you can see a line of vehicles on the opposite platform behind and it doesn't line up with those. What the van in front of the BV is I really can't tell from the quality of the scan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 3, 2016 Struggled to orientate that Gloucester shot initially but can now see its Eastgate looking north I think the birdcage van is an illusion - another vehicle behind the train perhaps? Phil I'm inclined to agree about the PLV with the lookout - you can see a line of vehicles on the opposite platform behind and it doesn't line up with those. What the van in front of the BV is I really can't tell from the quality of the scan. I did wonder whether it was an illusion caused by another vehicle standing behind on another road, but couldn't get the picture big enough on my screen to really be able to tell. Just wondered whether anybody else could see better! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted February 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2016 And I may need my eyes testing.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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