Dave F more photos added 21 June from 1947 to 1955ish

[DaveF]

 

Loughborough Central: is that a down train?  The over bridge is at the south end of the station.  Or was down towards Marlebone?

 

It is a down train, I simply typed the wrong word, once again.  Many thanks.  I ought to know as I used the station often enough when I was young in the fifties and sixties.

 

David

[coachmann]

Nottingham Mansfield Junction 3F down goods and 3FT up goods c1951 JVol1374

The loco approaching the camera loks to be an Intermediete LT&SE  4-4-2T

[melmerby]

Does the A3 No. 81 "Shotover" look as if it has just been renumbered (from 2580) without repainting the cab side sheet?

 

Keith

[DaveF]

The loco approaching the camera loks to be an Intermediete LT&SE  4-4-2T

Many thanks, I'd forgotten there were some of those around Nottingham at the time. I seem to remember they were not well liked in Nottingham.

 

Does the A3 No. 81 "Shotover" look as if it has just been renumbered (from 2580) without repainting the cab side sheet?

 

Keith

I think you are right about that, the loco must have been repainted not long before renumbering and hence just a patch painted which shows up.  I suspect most locos would have been renumbered in that way - I bet they would have just used vinyls now!.

 

David

Edited March 31, 2013 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Some for this afternoon.  A few each from Cambridge, Kettering and Nottingham plus one which will never have an identified location - I hope that's not famous last words!.

 

Cambridge B17 1627 Aske Hall down ex pass 1947 JVol1416

 

Cambridge B17 down ex pass 1947 JVol1415

 

Kettering Jubilee 2MT c1948 JVol1412

 

Kettering Jubilee 5610 Gold Coast ex pass c1948 JVol1411

 

Kettering Jubilee ex pass c1948 JVol1413

 

Nottingham area GCR B7 pass 1947 JVol1404  possibly near New Basford.

 

Nottingham Mansfield Junction 2P Pass Derby to Lincoln 1949 cJVol1375

 

WD 2-8-0 c1948 JVol1405  probably near New Basford, Perry Road area

 

David

Edited March 31, 2013 by DaveF

[great central]

Hi Dave, re the WD (ozzy) as they were known to me.

I presume that's your unknown one?.

To me, it screams Perry Road just north of New Basford station on the GC! The cutting side looks as though it's fairly steep and more or less bare rock towards the bottom, with grass/scrub stopping a bit further up the side.

Photo is taken from fairly close to the track but quite high up. The cutting sides to the north of Perry Road were very steep and mostly bare sandstone, the whole lot now filled back to original ground levels, and houses built over!

This links to a photo taken when the road was widened in 1927. There was a shot further up the thread of a B1 (no 56) just south of the bridge beside the carriage sheds.

 

http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM015183&pos=1&action=zoom&id=68961

 

Re the GC 4-6-0 in the Nottingham area, it could be on the embankment approaching Perry Road from the south. The ground drops away quite dramatically from the lineside, possibly taken from an upstairs window of one of the houses that back onto the line, looking over a garden shed? It's also the next reference number to the ozzy? New Basford was my local area, being born about 1/2 mile away in Sherwood. 

 

 

Edit to add post number of B1 and comment on the GC 4-6-0.

Edited March 31, 2013 by great central

[DaveF]

Hi Dave, re the WD (ozzy) as they were known to me.

I presume that's your unknown one?.

To me, it screams Perry Road just north of New Basford station on the GC! The cutting side looks as though it's fairly steep and more or less bare rock towards the bottom, with grass/scrub stopping a bit further up the side.

Photo is taken from fairly close to the track but quite high up. The cutting sides to the north of Perry Road were very steep and mostly bare sandstone, the whole lot now filled back to original ground levels, and houses built over!

This links to a photo taken when the road was widened in 1927. There was a shot further up the thread of a B1 (no 56) just south of the bridge beside the carriage sheds.

 

http://www.picturethepast.org.uk/frontend.php?keywords=Ref_No_increment;EQUALS;NTGM015183&pos=1&action=zoom&id=68961

 

Re the GC 4-6-0 in the Nottingham area, it could be on the embankment approaching Perry Road from the south. The ground drops away quite dramatically from the lineside, possibly taken from an upstairs window of one of the houses that back onto the line, looking over a garden shed? It's also the next reference number to the ozzy? New Basford was my local area, being born about 1/2 mile away in Sherwood. 

 

 

Edit to add post number of B1 and comment on the GC 4-6-0.

Thanks for the suggestions.  Again places I ought to know as I used to live in Nottingham almost 50 years ago and cycled past Perry Road most days - it was less than a mile from where I lived.

 

I'd forgotten the amount of rock (Bunter sandstone I think) in the cuttings on the GC (and bits of the GN).

 

As for the B7 you could well be right, if it is from a house it must have been a friend of Dad's as his parents lived quite near there and if he was in Nottingham he'd be staying with them.

 

David.

Edited to remove a superfluous word

Edited March 31, 2013 by DaveF

[DaveF]

Some for the evening.  This time they are all from Cambridge.  As far as I know they were all taken in 1947, probably in the autumn.  I could be corrected of course......

 

Cambridge B2 1671 Royal Sovereign and B2 1617 Ford Castle 1947JVol1425

 

Cambridge B17 1665 Leicester City Yarmouth to Liverpool St and F3 7115 1947 JVol1424

 

Cambridge D16 2614 up ex pass Kings Lynn to Liverpool St 1947 JVol1417

 

Cambridge F3 7115 ecs 1947 JVol1423

 

Cambridge North Box O2 up goods 1947 JVol1419

 

Cambridge South Box B17 pass Liverpool St to Cambridge 1947 JVol1422

 

Cambridge South O2 3953 up goods 1947 JVol1418

 

David

Edited March 31, 2013 by DaveF

[great central]

Thanks for the suggestions.  Again places I ought to know as I used to live in Nottingham almost 50 years ago and cycled past Perry Road most days - it was less than a mile from where I lived.

 

I'd forgotten the amount of rock (Bunter sandstone I think) in the cuttings on the GC (and bits of the GN).

 

As for the B7 you could well be right, if it is from a house it must have been a friend of Dad's as his parents lived quite near there and if he was in Nottingham he'd be staying with them.

 

David.

Edited to remove a superfluous word

 

Found the road name that backs onto the embankment, memory no good at around 50 years distance! Glamis Road mean anything?

[DaveF]

Found the road name that backs onto the embankment, memory no good at around 50 years distance! Glamis Road mean anything?

Glamis Road - no, no memory of anything Dad said - but there might be some more photos in the next 6 albums.

Dad had just come out of the army than and wasn't too well so he may have had friends there - and I never asked him about photo details when he was still around - thank goodness the majority are catalogued.

David

[DaveF]

We'll now spend this afternoon at Cambridge in 1947.

 

Cambridge J20 1947 JVol1429

 

Cambridge K3 ord pass 1947 JVol1430

 

Cambridge J67 8517 1947 JVol1432

 

Cambridge J17 1947 JVol1434

 

Cambridge LMS Stanier 2-6-0 2949 and 4F 1947 JVol1435

 

Cambridge LNER O7 WD up goods taking water 1947 JVol1436

 

Cambridge LNER B1 down pass Kings X to Cambridge 1947 JVol1437

 

Cambridge J15 ecs 1947 JVol1438

 

David

[LMS2968]

That photo, as a print, of Stanier Crab 2949 and credited to "Photographer Unknown", has been in the Stanier Mogul Fund Archive Collection for at least twenty years, although with a lot more white dots on it than shown here. We've never used it, even within the Fund's in-house magazine. I don't know how we acquired it as it was there when I took over as Archivist, but at last I can date it and give due credit to the original photographer.

 

Thank you for that!

[DaveF]

That photo, as a print, of Stanier Crab 2949 and credited to "Photographer Unknown", has been in the Stanier Mogul Fund Archive Collection for at least twenty years, although with a lot more white dots on it than shown here. We've never used it, even within the Fund's in-house magazine. I don't know how we acquired it as it was there when I took over as Archivist, but at last I can date it and give due credit to the original photographer.

 

Thank you for that!

I know that a very long time ago - perhaps 55+ years ago - Dad gave away copies of quite a lot of his prints to other enthusiasts and photographers, especially ones who had been in the Cambridge University Railway Club with him, so that is probably how it eventually got into the Stanier Mogul Fund collection.  Please will you credit it to "John Ford".

 

David

[LMS2968]

It shall be done!

[DaveF]

We'll stay at Cambridge for the evening, but by the end we'll have moved into 1948.  Tomorrow we will visit somewhere else.

 

Cambridge B17 Kings X to Cambridge 1947 JVol1439

 

Cambridge D16 2614 1947 JVol1440

 

Cambridge V1 7667 1947 JVol1441

 

Cambridge Q1 on breakdown train 1947 JVol1443

 

Cambridge A4 17 Silver Fox up pass Cambridge to Kings X 1947 JVol1446

 

Cambridge K3 1939 Yarmouth to Liverpool St 1947 JVol1447

 

Cambridge Coldham Lane sidings O4 E3193 1948 JVol1442

 

Cambridge Coldham Lane sidings D16 1948JVol1444

 

David

 

[DavidLong]

David,

 

Thanks again for posting these photographs, they really are a rare treat. I do like the way that Royal Sovreign keeps popping up, one of my favourite locomotives and always in lovely condition, befitting its role as the 'royal engine'. Exciting times as well with new engines appearing such as the new pacifics and the more mundane likes of B1s and the Ivatt engines.

Easy to forget in these days the endless numbers of coal trains that trundled around the system, many of them providing employment for the demobbed WD 2-8-0s which really must have been a godsend for a railway as traditionally hard up as the LNER!

Noted another delightfully moody shot of the Vic in Saturday's collection. That station did have a unique atmosphere, I don't know if it was its subterranean location but it did have a certain 'something'.

By the way, was 2614 the 'Royal Claud'?

 

David

 

Edited for question about 2614

Edited April 1, 2013 by DavidLong

[DaveF]

David,

 

Thanks again for posting these photographs, they really are a rare treat. I do like the way that Royal Sovreign keeps popping up, one of my favourite locomotives and always in lovely condition, befitting its role as the 'royal engine'. Exciting times as well with new engines appearing such as the new pacifics and the more mundane likes of B1s and the Ivatt engines.

Easy to forget in these days the endless numbers of coal trains that trundled around the system, many of them providing employment for the demobbed WD 2-8-0s which really must have been a godsend for a railway as traditionally hard up as the LNER!

Noted another delightfully moody shot of the Vic in Saturday's collection. That station did have a unique atmosphere, I don't know if it was its subterranean location but it did have a certain 'something'.

By the way, was 2614 the 'Royal Claud'?

 

David

 

Edited for question about 2614

 

David,

 

Thanks for the comment.

 

I believe that 2614 was the Royal Claud.  Last night I was looking at some more of Dad's photos and he has some more of 2614 captioned as "The Royal Claud".  In all the photos I have it is always very clean (and shiny).

 

I like your comment about Nottingham Victoria, it certainly had "atmosphere".  I used to use it on the way to and from school in the late 50s, it always seemed very calm and quiet, it was rarely busy and noisy.

 

I have a lot more photos still to scan and post!

 

David

[jwealleans]

62614 was the former 8783, one of the two Royal Clauds Cambridge maintained.

[DaveF]

This afternoon's images are the last from Volume 1.  We go from Grantham to Lewes via Loughborough.

 

All being well the first ones from Volume 2 will follow this evening - once they are scanned.

 

Grantham W1 10000 c1948 JVol1448

 

Grantham A3 down ex pass c1948 JVol1449

 

Grantham A2 513 Dante down ex pass c1948 JVol1450

 

Grantham A3 up ex pass c1948 JVol1452

 

Grantham A3 up ex pass c1962 JVol1462

 

Loughborough Central B1 1123 down pas 1948 JVol1453.

 

 

Some of you may have seen the Lewes photos before, elsewhere.  They are from modern inkjet prints made from the original negatives with a lot of work in Photoshop.

Lewes U1 31902 Brighton to Victoria via Eridge 1950 JVol1461

 

Lewes U1 31902 Brighton to Victoria via Eridge

 

 1950 JVol1465

 

Lewes SR electric loco 1950 JVol1463

 

Lewes SR electric loco 1950 JVol1464

 

Volume 2 starts with the Rugby area for this evening.

 

David

Edited May 7, 2013 by DaveF

[Oldddudders]

The Lewes pics show the U1 on a train from Brighton setting off for Culver Junction, whence it might have headed either up the Bluebell line, or for Eridge. If the latter it might have been destined for Oxted via Ashurst or for Tunbridge Wells West. I cannot reconcile the headcode with the SEmG page on such items.

 

The "Hornby" electric loco is almost certainly on the Newhaven Boat Train. Bulleid coaches already in BR livery - probably from new. They have the 15"-deep window ventilators which appeared from May 1949.

[coachmann]

I love these photos showing the complete railway as we older gents once knew it. It seemed to be there for years but that was because were were only young.

[DaveF]

As promised the first from Volume 2 this evening.  Hopefully you'll notice the change in quality of many of the images.

 

I am slightly less certain of many of the dates in this volume, my apologies if any prove to be years out - please do tell me though.

 

I do have notes for almost all the photos giving locations which helps.

 

This evening, and probably tomorrow, we are spending some time at the lineside near Rugby on the LNWR.

 

Rugby 46207 Princess Arthur of Connaught up ex pass c1952 JVol2001

 

Rugby Coronation Class 46227 Duchess of Devonshire down Royal Scot c 1952 JVol2002

 

Rugby Class 5 45431 down ex pass c1952 JVol2003

 

Rugby Royal Scot Class 46134 The Cheshire Regiment down ex pass c1952 JVol2004

 

Rugby Princess Class 46205 Princess Victoria "The Merseyside Express" c1952 JVol2005

 

Rugby Class 5 down ex pass c1952 JVol2006

 

Rugby 8F 48186 up goods c1952 JVol2007

 

Rugby Class 5 44523 down ex pass c1952 JVol2008

 

David

 

Edited on 3rd April 13 to amend the year the photo was taken after finding extra information.

 

David

Edited April 3, 2013 by DaveF

[coachmann]

Some of those Stanier coaches are still in LMS livery c.1954....That's about six years since they were painted. Another selection of very interesting photos Dave.

[Armchair Modeller]

One thing I notice is all the flat-bottomed rail in some of those shots. How many people model f/b in the steam era, or even think about using it?

[62613]

The workings in nos. 2004/6/8 are specials, surely?