RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 12, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 12, 2013 Stanton Gate Beyer Garratt shunting c1952 JVol2181 David Just what you need for shunting, a nimble short wheelbase loco with plenty of visibility - whoops! Keith 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Also this loco and the Trent Jubilee in the last picture have had a coat of 'tar' paint brushed onto the smokebox on shed, hence the shine....Not something I have ever seen modelled.Jamie of this parish did it on a Stanier 5 (45161) - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/6595-blog-jamies-1960s-southern-scotland-fabulous-fives/?hl=45161 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) Once again we are in the Nottingham area this afternoon visiting a number of locations. To be honest even though I lived in and around Nottingham until I was 16 I'd have to look up some of these places on a map to find exactly where they are. As usual Dad was putting his track permit to good use. Basford Junction MR view north GN Derby line bridge in distance c1952 JVol2184 Nottingham London Road Junction Ivatt 4MT 43119 ecs c1952 JVol2185 Cinderhill Nottingham to Mansfield line view south c1952 JVol2186 Nottingham London Road Junction 8F 48217 up goods c1952 JVol2187 emptying a ballast wagon c1952 JVol2188 Stanton Gate 4F down goods c1952 JVol2189 Sneinton Junction 4F 44420 up goods c1952 JVol2190 Nottingham London Road Junction Class 5 45020 pass Kettering to Nottingham c1952 JVol2191 Probably some more to come later once again. David Edited April 14, 2013 by DaveF 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 5020 - the REAL first Black Five! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 5020 - the REAL first Black Five! The original batch built in 1934 were a lucky lot, as 5001, 5005, 5013, 5017, 5025, 5027, 5034, 5046, 5055, 5057 and 5065 lasted into 1968, the final year of steam with some lasting through to the final month. So much for all the subsequent alterations from verticle to sloping throatplate, increased superheat, domeless, rear dome and forward dome, Caprotti valvegear, Stevensons motion, low running plate, high running plate, single or double chimneys, roller bearings and the rest. Taking stock at the end of the day, the LMS could have saved itself a boatload of messing about and a pile of money in the bargain while the BR standard variant may as well not have been built! I'd better add a smiley... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 5020 - the REAL first Black Five! On another matter, did you receive the PM I sent you the other day about the second Stanier Mogul photo? David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted April 13, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) 5020 - the REAL first Black Five! And 5025 still exists (built 6 months earlier than 5000) Keith Edit: currently under restoration @ Strathspey Edited April 13, 2013 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 On another matter, did you receive the PM I sent you the other day about the second Stanier Mogul photo? David No Dave, I didn't. Things have been a bit fraught here with a good friend in his last days, so I haven't been chasing anything. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 The original batch built in 1934 were a lucky lot, as 5001, 5005, 5013, 5017, 5025, 5027, 5034, 5046, 5055, 5057 and 5065 lasted into 1968, the final year of steam with some lasting through to the final month. So much for all the subsequent alterations from verticle to sloping throatplate, increased superheat, domeless, rear dome and forward dome, Caprotti valvegear, Stevensons motion, low running plate, high running plate, single or double chimneys, roller bearings and the rest. Taking stock at the end of the day, the LMS could have saved itself a boatload of messing about and a pile of money in the bargain while the BR standard variant may as well not have been built! I'd better add a smiley... I'm not sure which it was, either John Powell or J.W.P. Rowledge, but he reckoned these vertical throatplate / 21 element Black 'uns were the the best steamers of them all! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 No Dave, I didn't. Things have been a bit fraught here with a good friend in his last days, so I haven't been chasing anything. New PM sent re how to get the photo you asked for to you. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 For this evening we'll stay in the same area watching more trains go by and also have a look at a signal. Some seem to have been taken on a typically murky day in Nottingham - almost any month could be like November in the 50s and 60s. Nottingham London Road Junction Stanier 3MTT 40175 pass Lincoln to Nottingham also trolleybus c1952 JVol2192 Nottingham London Road Junction 42144 piloting Compound pass Nottingham to Lincoln c1952 JVol2193 Loughborough troughs Standard class 5 down ex pass c1953 JVol2194 Wollaton 4F 44585 up le c1953 JVol2195 Trowell Junction up signals c1952 JVol2196 Nottingham London Road Junction Compound 40900 down ex pass c1951 JVol2197 Nottingham London Road Junction 8F 48517 up le c1951 JVol2200 Nottingham London Road Junction carriage sidings ecs c1951 JVol2201 Note: There are sometimes file numbers missing from the posted sets, this is where there is a second copy of a particular image in the album, you are not missing anything. David 18 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 When I was at Loughborough in the 70s, I do not recall the Herbert Morris building. It must have gone by then. I remember that the company was still in business, but I cannot remember where the works was now. The sidings on the left had been replaced by a loop (two?) and were used as an aggregate terminal; either Amey or ARC; not sure which . I have just looked on Google Maps and the area is now a large car park for the station! It was quite a landmark in many ways, visible from the Midland and the Great Central lines, to the north of the station just after the bridge carrying the road across the Meadows and under the Creat Central and then on to Stanford on Soar. I cycled in the area a lot when I lived in East Leake as a child in the late 50s. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) David, Another exceptional set of pictures. Especially like London Road Jn with the trolleybus and the one of L'boro troughs. I'm sure if you got really good quality copies of the photos, well written captions and maps showing the locations, there would be a market for a volume on the East Midlands. Especially so as the MR, GC and GN are covered in some depth, with pictures taken from less usual viewpoints. Edited April 13, 2013 by Western Sunset 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 David, Another exceptional set of pictures. Especially like London Road Jn with the trolleybus and the one of L'boro troughs. I'm sure if you got really good quality copies of the photos, well written captions and maps showing the locations, there would be a market for a volume on the East Midlands. Especially so as the MR, GC and GN are covered in some depth, with pictures taken from less usual viewpoints. As to "really good copies of the photos". I am scanning from prints, sometimes only contact prints. Sadly most of the negatives were lost during one of my parents' house moves many years ago. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Really glad to have seen the shot of Compound 40900, as I have been searching for an England-based one minus coal rails. Has anyone got piccies of 'tother side to see if it had an exhaust injector..? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 But even some of the less clear shots have sufficient atmosphere and railway interest to be of merit. I've taken the liberty to tidy up your picture of the 4F (on what I think is actually the 2nd Down Goods line) at Stanton Gate. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Well I reckon this thread is getting boring....not a single class 66 or 158 amongst these shots, what is the railway coming to? [ ] Stewart read the emoticons! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 13, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 13, 2013 But even some of the less clear shots have sufficient atmosphere and railway interest to be of merit. I've taken the liberty to tidy up your picture of the 4F (on what I think is actually the 2nd Down Goods line) at Stanton Gate. Very nicely done. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Sneinton Junction 4F 44420 up goods c1952 JVol2190.jpgDavid, Possibly 44480? Regards, John Isherwood. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 David, Possibly 44480? Regards, John Isherwood. I'd agree John. The fourth digit looks very like an "8" to me too. Whilst 44420 was a Derby (17A) engine and could very well be found in this location, 44480 was a Nottm (16A) locowhich would be even more acceptable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blobrick Posted April 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 14, 2013 Dave I just love this thread, real honest photos of the real railway as was. so good to see so many photos of the early 50s, An era that does not get as much cover as the later BR steam periods. Although I live in Scotland I work within the rail industry in Derby so l know most of the areas depicted in your photos, it fasinating to see what we ve lost over the years. Thank you so very much for sharing them with us, it must take ages to scan them all in but the effort is well worth it. Bob.C 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 14, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2013 David, Possibly 44480? Regards, John Isherwood. Could be, The only note I had for this image was the location, so I had a "guess" at the number from the image. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted April 14, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 14, 2013 Well I reckon this thread is getting boring....not a single class 66 or 158 amongst these shots, what is the railway coming to? [ ] Stewart read the emoticons! There are plenty of those if you look in the right places on my flickr site! But there will be some "modern image" in this thread, or at least what passed for that then. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 14, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2013 A batch for this afternoon. Once again Loughborough, Nottingham London Road and Manchester. Nottingham London Road Junction carriage sidings Class 5 44861 ecs c1952 JVol2202 Nottingham London Road Junction Fowler 4MTT 42333 pass Nottingham to Lincoln c1952JVol2203 Nottingham London Road Junction Jubilee 45622 Nyasaland ex pass St Pancras to Manchester c1952 JVol2203a Manchester London Road Compound 41168 up pass c1954 JVol2204 Loughborough Midland 3F 43232 shunting c1952 JVol2205 Loughborough Midland Stanier Class 5 up ex pass c1952 JVol2206 Nottingham London Road Junction 1P 58085 ecs c1951 JVol2207. Nottingham London Road Junction Fowler 4MTT 42333 ecs c1952 JVol2208 Once again there may be some more later on. David 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Unorthodox roping of a container next to 43232. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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