RMweb Premium Nile Posted April 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2015 Looking good. On the subject of N, what is a good colour match for SECR grey? I've read that it weathered pretty quickly to almost black. I used Humbrol 27 sea grey (acrylic spray can) on my models, it's a fairly good match to the Bachmann SECR N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo C. Cupier Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Sainsburys at Frome had a single GBL N on the shelf this evening. Not the best example, the cab leaning backwards at an alarming angle, leaving a huge gap at the top of the firebox, so it stayed where it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) Looking at the depth of the footplate drop under the cab, and comparing it with the drawings I have, I'm beginning to think that GBL has it slightly too deep in that area. In fact it's part of the way to being correct for a new-build "U", so some cutting and shutting will have to be tried..... These, by the way, are the basic holes that need to be opened up if you are using the GBL footplate as a substitute for a broken/shattered Bachmann mazak one: 1) Under smokebox saddle: one slot either side of the central screw pillar to match with the clips on the Bachmann saddle, and open up the central hole so that the pillar (and thus the entire smokebox saddle) sinks in; 2) Midway: open up the hole to allow the screw in the bottom of the Bachmann boiler to protrude. 3) Beside the firebox - trim the moulded "angle" on the nearside longitudinally, to allow the firebox to sit flat on the footplate. 4) Under the cab: this is the one requiring most work - hack away as much material as you dare from inside the footplate angle valencing (but not the valences themselves!) to allow the screw pillars under the Bachmann cab to fit through. Cut slots to allow the leading bottom edges of the cabsides to sit inside the footplate curved drop, and pare away material from the sides of the cab floor. Some modification will also be needed to allow the Bachmann cast backhead to fit inside properly - the GBL backhead is wrong and appears to be from a different engine. Edited April 22, 2015 by Horsetan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted April 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2015 Spoke too soon, just gone back through some of the piccies posted on here and realised that my GBL model is missing the entire Whistle assembly! A rake through the spares box will be called for when I have time. I've found a spare brass whistle wasting its time on a piece of old tat, but I don't know how the pipework around the whistle on the N class is formed/assembled. Could anyone possibly post a close up of the whistle assembly on either the GBL or Bachmann model for my guidance please? I'll be very grateful for any help with this. regards, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo C. Cupier Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Had to go into Warminster this morning, so nipped into WHSmith while I was passing. Still had four Ns in the partwork bin. All seemed reasonable, so I chose one to be liberated.. I don't particularly need it so it is available if anyone can't find any in their area. Took a look at previous purchases in my loft as well, resulting in a Mallard, Coronation, Compound, Butler-Henderson, and a T9 all also available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Looking at the depth of the footplate drop under the cab, and comparing it with the drawings I have, I'm beginning to think that GBL has it slightly too deep in that area. In fact it's part of the way to being correct for a new-build "U", so some cutting and shutting will have to be tried..... And probably a lot easier than doing the same mod to a DJH cast whitemetal footplate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnylinny Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) I've found a spare brass whistle wasting its time on a piece of old tat, but I don't know how the pipework around the whistle on the N class is formed/assembled. Could anyone possibly post a close up of the whistle assembly on either the GBL or Bachmann model for my guidance please? I'll be very grateful for any help with this. regards, John I've got a fairly-battered-looking Bachmann N class here that's just had a new body donated for it. I'd be happy to donate the whistle assembly if you would like? Edit due to ham-fistedness: Or not... Delicate and solidly glued in place, it disintegrated as I tried to get it off the firebox. Sorry! Edited April 22, 2015 by Skinnylinny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Look. I don't know how to put this. But I want an extra N. I'm prepared to swap all sorts of things - maybe even two for one. There are none to be found round here, so can someone who keeps seeing hordes of the bu**ers please get me one and we'll arrange the swap you desire. Plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo C. Cupier Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Smiffy2, PM sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted April 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks for the offer and the effort Skinnylinny, sorry it all crumbled away . Not really much I can say by way of consolation, just my sincere thanks for a most generous thought. Now, if anyone can post a half decent photo of the N class whistle assembly, I'm sure I can knock something together to make my GBL version look more complete. regards, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Does this help? I didn't include it in the earlier pix because it's not very sharp, but it shows the layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted April 22, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks very much for that piccie Smiffy2, I can see the general arrangement and it looks like a couple of short pieces of brass tube plus a bit of wire linked to the whistle should do the trick. Much appreciated, John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pricesq Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Well I'm sadly a subscriber, still await a lot of models up to issue 30. A lot of us have tried to get it into GBLs Customer service team just how unhappy we are, at great phone cost, perhaps its the'phone charges' that are still supporting such a rotten company. To think that our National Railway Muse is still supporting them is unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well I'm about to stop my subscription, as soon as I get my missing models. Paul No 30 arrived this morning but still await No,s 21,23,25,27,29. Also 31 and 32. as shown on the GBL Webpage. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Look. I don't know how to put this. But I want an extra N. I'm prepared to swap all sorts of things - maybe even two for one. There are none to be found round here, so can someone who keeps seeing hordes of the bu**ers please get me one and we'll arrange the swap you desire. Plz. 1 left in Teignmouth today. Will check in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 If the GBL 8F is coming soon this might be worth grabbing, still low at the moment with free post and packing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LMS-BR-STANIER-8F-2-8-0-LOCOMOTIVE-4MM-SCALE-ETCHED-BRASS-MAINFRAMES-BY-DJH-/231537971457?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item35e8bd1101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Don't forget to ask South Eastern Finecast for spare parts lists covering the original Wills N/N1, "River", "W" and Metro "K" tanks, plus of course the chassis kits for same. Sky's the limit, with so many upgrade possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 8F now on GBL website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 8F now on GBL website. Is this the clone of the Margate one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I've just received confirmation from Amercom that the series will end at issue #41, and that the locomotive will be Locomotion No 1... quote: Hi the issue 41 will be the last one. The model included to that issue will be Locomtion one.Best regardsALex So no Terrier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Is this the clone of the Margate one? It looks like it. The picture is too small to make out details very clearly beyond LMS livery. However, the lack of conspicuous rivets indicates it's not the Dublo/Wrenn version.and the horizontal union link suggests a recent model. 'Locomotion' looks like being added as a decorative feature. I certainly won't be attempting a motorisation! Edited April 24, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 What are they copying to make locomotion? Will be a shame to see the end of this series but my cupboard is getting full. It's been fun while it's lasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Going off the tender I personally think its been copied from the latest 8F, not the Margate one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 What are they copying to make locomotion? Will be a shame to see the end of this series but my cupboard is getting full. It's been fun while it's lasted. Give it a year or two, it'll probably all get re-issued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted April 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 24, 2015 Hope Smiffy2's information is correct so far as Locomotion being produced. It was one model I'd really wanted from the initial announcement and it was a great disappointment to learn that it had been scratched from the series some good while ago. Could they reduce/ scan or whatever process from the Bachmann static model which I think is made of pewter ? I certainly don't know of any RTR model in any scale ever having been produced. Agree its a shame to see the end of the series, but lack of space to accommodate many more models is becoming a bit of a problem. Will hope to enjoy the remainder of the series while it lasts. Regards, John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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