RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 I think Westerner amongst others has done a H33 conversion Phil, worth a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) OK fellow GWR/WR admirers, I have a serious question (OK, stop howling with laughter). Being a tight arse wad, I don't really want to buy 4 Comet kits just to supply some dining coaches for an ECS working that may or may not have been diverted through SJish and may or may not have run in my timescale in any case! The coaches would be and H39 + H40 (less essential as I could use a MK1 RF + a SO) and an H25 and H33 (probably more of a 'need'). Any chance I could do 'conversions' using some existing RTR product for the H25 and H33, or is that a complete b#####d to carry out or waste of time. Suggestions (about this, not what I can do with myself) on a napkin please. If I had to build and finish 4 full kits that probably would never ever get done and I can't justify paying some other poor ######## to do them for me when SWMBO has not got any shoes to wear. Ar$e I'm tarting 3 of the Hornby one's up at the moment using Comet parts so I can at least put some Paddington- Devon/Cornwall express dining trains together, a man/duck of your Caliber (not the non alcoholic booze) should have no problem cutting a few naff bits off and putting a few quality Comet parts on. Edited December 13, 2016 by 81C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 You can make a very nice conversation of the Hornby H33, one day mine will even get painted... The ECS restaurant move is an interesting one, for me it means building a lot more restaurants than I actually need to run my timetable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92858-h-33-restaurant-carriage-finished/page-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2750Papyrus Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 St Enodoc, I am. Being of Welsh speaking parents and going to and playing for a rugby school I certainly supported the cherry and whites, indeed for the first 7 years of my life I lived in a cul de sac which backed onto Kingsholm. But I've always played football as well. Saturdays tended to be Rugby in the morning for school and football in the afternoon playing in one of the local leagues. The 1st division team I supported pre Munich and still do is man. Utd. The first big game I saw was Man U v WBA at the hawthorns in the days of Harry Gregg and Albert Quixall et al. At college I also played both football and rugby for the college. One of my oldest friends proudly recounts the story of his saving a penalty from Albert Quixall - in Fog Lane Park! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2016 I have to tell you all that I played 6 games for Rushden Town before they became Rushden and Diamonds. Goalkeeper; we didn't lose any of them! Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 13, 2016 http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92858-h-33-restaurant-carriage-finished/page-4 Looks like I could use a B set donor.......yea! He did a good job on that; I'd forgotten. Ta Rob. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 13, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 Looks like I could use a B set donor.......yea! He did a good job on that; I'd forgotten. Ta Rob. P See post 85 from Taz for your requirements Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerner Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Phil, it wasn't a B set it was the old Hornby Collet restaurant car. It may now be in the Railroad range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 Phil, it wasn't a B set it was the old Hornby Collet restaurant car. It may now be in the Railroad range. If not you can often find them at swapmeets for a couple of quid, or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted December 13, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 13, 2016 Talking of Cornish goodies and I was reminded of this excellent poster that Mikkel posted when receiving a rather nice Warren's Bakery Christmas pudding in a hamper we won in the school raffle. Mikkel's pudding.jpg http://simplycornish.com/seasonal-products I had forgotten about that one. But then it was two years ago, when we were all still young and vigorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2016 Phil, it wasn't a B set it was the old Hornby Collet restaurant car. It may now be in the Railroad range. Ta. However someone mentions B Set as a donor in some post somewhere that I can't remember as it was last night when i looked. Yours looks superbio though. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2016 I had forgotten about that one. But then it was two years ago, when we were all still young and vigorous. Humph! Ar$e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 81C Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Hi Phil here's a link for a currently running thread on Hornby Colletts http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/116895-new-colletts-from-old/ Edited December 14, 2016 by 81C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 My H33 conversion notes are here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/tags/blog/H33/ My empty coaching stick working (142am Plymouth to OOC consists of RF,RO, RU, RC, full break, BTK I assume the latter will be to carry the restaurant staff home? The RC will be the H33 or H26, the RU likely a H15 (as it's the only kit I can find), while initials the RF and RO will be the centenary pair, possibly later replaced with the bow end set. The hardest bit is working out which type of diner to use, the working timetable often just specified "dining car" and not if it is an unclassified or a composite. I assume more of the latter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 OK fellow GWR/WR admirers, I have a serious question (OK, stop howling with laughter). Being a tight arse wad, I don't really want to buy 4 Comet kits just to supply some dining coaches for an ECS working that may or may not have been diverted through SJish and may or may not have run in my timescale in any case! The coaches would be and H39 + H40 (less essential as I could use a MK1 RF + a SO) and an H25 and H33 (probably more of a 'need'). Any chance I could do 'conversions' using some existing RTR product for the H25 and H33, or is that a complete b#####d to carry out or waste of time. Suggestions (about this, not what I can do with myself) on a napkin please. If I had to build and finish 4 full kits that probably would never ever get done and I can't justify paying some other poor ######## to do them for me when SWMBO has not got any shoes to wear. Ar$e I have a railroad H33 on my back burner. I have sanded the roof to a more agreeable profile and inset the ends and plan now to custom flushglaze the existing body. I see the refurbished H33 had longitudinal gas tanks but didn't the original diagram have transverse gas tanks ? . The Hornby paint job matches my new Collett coaches so well I couldn't bear to cover it with brass! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 The hardest bit is working out which type of diner to use, the working timetable often just specified "dining car" and not if it is an unclassified or a composite. I assume more of the latter? I've had a quick look at a CWP more recent than for your chosen period but the same principles would apply. Most references are just to "Dining Car" but here are some to "Kitchen First" and "Second Dining Saloon". From this I deduce that if there is one catering vehicle it caters for both classes. How this was accomplished changed over time as designs of restaurant cars evolved. As a breed they were long-lived: the last Dreadnought in service was a diner. So, not too many other clues about what ran in a particular train, but remember this - the CWP sets out what should happen and does not always represent what does/did. Other getout clauses are available! Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 The tricky bit I have found is the mention of the unclassified restaurant in the ecs movement, my logic given the lack of dining stock post war is that first class provision would be the priority. And hence an RC would be more likely than an RU, as such I think I will use the composite diner for the majority, maybe with the H15 as a token inclusion for one or two services that contain less first class seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2016 The tricky bit I have found is the mention of the unclassified restaurant in the ecs movement, my logic given the lack of dining stock post war is that first class provision would be the priority. And hence an RC would be more likely than an RU, as such I think I will use the composite diner for the majority, maybe with the H15 as a token inclusion for one or two services that contain less first class seats In another thread (Tony Wright's Wright Writes) someone very kindly listed the coach numbers for an ECS working of this type. I spent some time last evening identifying the Diagrams if anyone is interested. I think I am going to need just two conversions for a 5 coach train and maybe I will get away with available RTR if I just use MK1 stock for early 60s. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 Today I had a very nice email from scratch builder deluxe David Amais, after he saw the latest BRM.He thought you might like to see his latest creation.DAS was applied to walls and stone was scribed and painted using acrylics.A true craftsman. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Today I had a very nice email from scratch builder deluxe David Amais, after he saw the latest BRM.He thought you might like to see his latest creation.DAS was applied to walls and stone was scribed and painted using acrylics.A true craftsman. House1.jpg House4.jpg House3.jpg House2.jpg That is nice. Very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 The tricky bit I have found is the mention of the unclassified restaurant in the ecs movement, my logic given the lack of dining stock post war is that first class provision would be the priority. And hence an RC would be more likely than an RU, as such I think I will use the composite diner for the majority, maybe with the H15 as a token inclusion for one or two services that contain less first class seats I have a vague memory, I guess in the late fifties early sixties, of travelling on trains with only a 1st class dining car......if you were travelling third class you could still buy your dinner there. In fact if you booked the last sitting you could continue your journey in first class comfort.......this was probably ex LMS Euston-Liverpool Lime St Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 It's a bit of an odd one as most of the formations have the dining car sandwiched between two composites or a composite and a first, so in my mind logically it would be an RF But the formations using a dining pair seem to state that, and I haven't seen any GW RF kits which run on their own. Unless a dining car and a first can be replaced with an RO and an RF pair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted December 14, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 14, 2016 Today I had a very nice email from scratch builder deluxe David Amais, after he saw the latest BRM.He thought you might like to see his latest creation.DAS was applied to walls and stone was scribed and painted using acrylics.A true craftsman. House1.jpg House4.jpg House3.jpg House2.jpg The bay window and porch make it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 14, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2016 The bay window and porch make it for me. I dread to think how much it cost as it took three months work to complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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