RMweb Premium Tim Dubya Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 I do believe that's a brown Marina parked next to it! although, looking at those handles - a Morris Ital maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I should have googled up Matra like this (Plus a whole lot of pics here) before I exposed my old fRts increasingly defective memory. I was wrong about Matra being linked with Alpine - Wiki claims Matra's cars emerged from a takeover of Bonnet from the former DB firm that made the Le Mans Index winning flimsy looking 750cc DB Panhards. The Djet Renault was the Matra I confused with Alpine Renault. I forgotten about Matra's Gitane bleu liveried minimalist Le Mans winner as well as its F1 cars - Horsetan's Matra Simca is there too. dh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Just had a fantastic day at Prescott Hill Climb, glorious weather, the Gloucester and Warwickshire Railway chugging past the bottom of the car-park, and some fantastic finds. It’s a great place to find all sorts of stuff on the Hill, in the Paddock, and even just lying around in the car-park, such as this immaculate 1958 D type Jag (Probably a Lynx replica?), just driven there and left lying around! DSCF6632.JPG DSCF6633.JPG A very nice Bristol 405 DSCF6634.JPG An original AC Cobra DSCF6635.JPG DSCF6636.JPG One of several Citroen’s (It was a French themed day) DSCF6637.JPG And a Healey 3000 DSCF6638.JPG Inside it just got better and better With Morgans DSCF6639.JPG A Brace of BMW's DSCF6640.JPG an Austin 7 Ulster and a lot of Bugatti's DSCF6642.JPG DSCF6643.JPG DSCF6646.JPG DSCF6644.JPG DSCF6666.JPG An Alfa or two DSCF6645.JPG DSCF6662.JPG A Darracq(?) and a 1904 Mors DSCF6647.JPG A trio of Hotchkiss's DSCF6648.JPG DSCF6650.JPG Renaults DSCF6651.JPG Citroen's DSCF6667.JPG DSCF6669.JPG A Pickard Pictet DSCF6652.JPG A Delahaye DSCF6655.JPG Darracq DSCF6656.JPG An Amilcar DSCF6657.JPG Particularly gorgeous Ferrari's DSCF6658.JPG DSCF6659.JPG DSCF6672.JPG DSCF6673.JPG DSCF6674.JPG DSCF6675.JPG More Panhards than I thought existed DSCF6668.JPG With some particularly outlandish machinery DSCF6653.JPG DSCF6654.JPG DSCF6670.JPG DSCF6671.JPG It just went on an on, but fortunately the batteries ran out, so I could just get on and breathe the Castrol R and watch folks throwing millions of quid’s worth of cars around for fun. The beauty of these events is that you can get up very close and personal with the cars. DSCF6660.JPG DSCF6661.JPG I Nearly came away with a Bug of my own, but hadn't Got a spare £990k in my back pocket. DSCF6663.JPG All in all £20.00 well spent. (Only I got in free as a Guest, even better) Peter You'd like to think that they had a proud history of refusing to let Jeremy Clarkson in the gate, and had just repeated the courtesy to Chris Evans.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 OK any idea what the car on the left is please? - Bit of an argument on another forum! What consensus there is suggests it may be American. It is part of a much larger, but poor quality photo, so I cannot enlarge it further without a large drop in quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 a200.jpg OK any idea what the car on the left is please? - Bit of an argument on another forum! What consensus there is suggests it may be American. It is part of a much larger, but poor quality photo, so I cannot enlarge it further without a large drop in quality. Borgward Isobella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter220950 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 a200.jpg OK any idea what the car on the left is please? - Bit of an argument on another forum! What consensus there is suggests it may be American. It is part of a much larger, but poor quality photo, so I cannot enlarge it further without a large drop in quality. Vauhall Velox EIP? - About halfway down the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Velox Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 I do believe that's a brown Marina parked next to it! Watch out for low flying pianos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the suggestions. The Borgward is an interesting idea, but the shape is wrong, and the chrome waist strip too short. Definitely not the Vauxhall - here is a direct comparison We are looking at quite a large car. Also considered larger Rootes Group cars like Humbers, but not close enough to be those either. Edited May 31, 2016 by Echo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Peugeot? Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Hillman Minx? Stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium New Haven Neil Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 Yesterday we were invited to view a local private collection of cars, by the vicar oddly - oddly as we're atheists, but he's a friend! The cars mostly have some kind of a flying woman on the grille..... This is just a few hundred yards from us, but very discrete. You'll see why! Previous owner of this car was Adnan Kashoggi! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) I think vicars must be paid too much! Stewart Edited June 1, 2016 by stewartingram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 Thanks for the suggestions. The Borgward is an interesting idea, but the shape is wrong, and the chrome waist strip too short. Definitely not the Vauxhall - here is a direct comparison gdd.jpeg We are looking at quite a large car. Also considered larger Rootes Group cars like Humbers, but not close enough to be those either. Definitely American looking. The chrome strip on the rear fender was a feature of Fords of the late 40's but I don't think its a Ford but perhaps something from the same stable, Mercury perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 a200.jpg OK any idea what the car on the left is please? - Bit of an argument on another forum! What consensus there is suggests it may be American. It is part of a much larger, but poor quality photo, so I cannot enlarge it further without a large drop in quality. Regarding other suggestions, the Hillman Minx has far too short a bonnet, though the general styling is similar (Rootes were notorious for copying American styling even before the Chrysler takeover). As for Peugeot, I haven't found anything similar. Their large saloons of the early 1950s had no boot like that, as far as I can see. American would be my best bet, but I can't find anything quite like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runs as required Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) Early 50s Chevvy? or a Russian rip off? Ed Nah, neether of the above, I remember now, Cuba's favourite taxi, it's a foul smelling diesel Plymouth Edited May 31, 2016 by runs as required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 31, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) 1948 Mercury coupe http://www.classiccars.com/classifieds/154367_10850460_1948_Mercury_Coupe.j Link doesn't work, Google 1948 Mercury coupe. Edited May 31, 2016 by PhilJ W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I think vicars must be paid too much! Stewartr He only said the vicar invited him to see them, he didn't say they belonged to the vicar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianusa Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 plymouth.jpg Early 50s Chevvy? or a Russian rip off? Ed Nah, neether of the above, I remember now, Cuba's favourite taxi, it's a foul smelling diesel Plymouth Agree that is looks more like a Chrysler product, pre 1950. With the long name, could well be a Plymouth but with this picture, it would be hard to be sure. Doesn't appear to have a rear door handle so a cheaper two door club coupe. Lots of guesses! Brian. Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I think you are spot-on there Brian. I found a few photos of the 1949 model Plymouth club coupe, like this one Thanks everyone for your suggestions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubloseven Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 You know you're getting ancient when you watch old episodes of 'The Sweeney' and can correctly identify every motor. Cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 I've only ever seen the Matra name in conjunction with Matra Simca, on the Bagheera and the Rancho "not a 4WD". The latter's equivalent today would probably be something like the Skoda Yeti. I really rated the Rancho when it first came out. Lots of space, 4x4 type clearance and based on the Simca 1100 which was a pretty good car for its time. I wanted one. And then I went in 1981 to work for a firm that had one as the office pool car. Right up there as one of the worst cars that I have ever driven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 1, 2016 Were Alpine anything to do with Matra or quite separate? M was the French aerospace maverick who once ran a F1 team and marketed that three abreast centre-drive coupe. Matra also developed the original big Espace that the Regie decided to badge as a Renault. dh The Bagheera had three seats (for thin people) but was lhd not centre. Sold in quite large numbers. Was succeeded by the rather nicer looking Murena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 I really rated the Rancho when it first came out. Lots of space, 4x4 type clearance and based on the Simca 1100 which was a pretty good car for its time. I wanted one. And then I went in 1981 to work for a firm that had one as the office pool car. Right up there as one of the worst cars that I have ever driven. Worse than an Allegro? The Rancho was an example of a concept before its time. The so called "crossover", looks like a 4X4 but isn't. When the Chelsea yummy mummies started to drive Range Rovers, etc. to establish their weekend in the country credentials, the car marketers saw an opportunity to produce something for the masses. Qashgi anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Worse than an Allegro? The Rancho was an example of a concept before its time. The so called "crossover", looks like a 4X4 but isn't. When the Chelsea yummy mummies started to drive Range Rovers, etc. to establish their weekend in the country credentials, the car marketers saw an opportunity to produce something for the masses. Qashgi anyone? Camping 'sauvage' in Herault, around the time the Rancho came out, it was amusing to see drivers (mainly Parisians) who actually believed you could take them to places only a 4x4 could go. At the time, there wasn't much competion for the 4x4 market, ersatz or real; there was the Landy, very popular in the 8me arrondisement, and the Range Rover, and not a lot else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Worse than an Allegro? I quite liked my Allegro. It was very comfy, and came with a round (but rather small) steering wheel. It was quite fast too, but having to double de-clutch to change between some gears rather let it down. Cornering wasn't brilliant either, but at least with a 1750 engine I could make up for that by putting my foot down on the straight bits! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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