For those interested in old cars.

[Dunsignalling]

42 minutes ago, Hobby said:

Use what's available, 2 doors are rare and 1750s collectors items... Dad used to have a 1.3HL in that colour, that and the dark blue suited the Mk3s.

 

And there's nothing to say it's any more standard underneath than it is on top. 

 

[RANGERS]

On 02/10/2022 at 07:43, peanuts said:

And what came out of it was the need for a propper signed inspection agreement for any vehicle on your operating licence and the ability to fund this for 12 months .anything over 3.5t has to be inspected every 6 weeks at an independant garage contracted for this purpose .inspection period can be shorter or longer dependant on amount of milage vehicle is expected to do higher more intence use shorter periods. Iirc wasnt the owner operator at sowerby doing his own maintainance and scrimping on that .

That isn’t strictly correct, the requirement for periodic maintenance inspections (PMI) on vehicles at nominally six week intervals is a requirement of an HGV or PSV Operator Licence, but there’s no requirement that it has to be undertaken by a third party, operators are perfectly in order to undertake it themselves.
 

The responsibility for ensuring that the inspection regime is maintained lies with the operator and is a mandatory undertaking when an O Licence is granted, any suspected failures would result in a DVSA investigation and often a call to Public Inquiry, an adverse outcome of which can result in restrictions being placed on the Licence and/ or the company officials named on it (Transport Manager or directors).

 

The level of funding required to obtain an operator licence (financial standing) is a standard amount now set by the Traffic Commissioner (previously based on an EC formula), reviewed annually. It’s currently £8000 for the first HGV/ PSV and £4500 for each subsequent vehicle.

[Bernard Lamb]

I went to a reunion yesterday and a couple arrived in this. Complete with a rear luggage rack and a period leather trunk.

Bernard

 

 

 

 

 

[Rugd1022]

Top Rover chappie Spencer Wilkes trying out one of the Range Rover prototypes, c.1069 / 70...

 

[jcredfer]

7 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Top Rover chappie Spencer Wilkes trying out one of the Range Rover prototypes, c.1069 / 70...

 

 

Looks better than most of the production models.....

 

Shhh!!

 

[PhilJ W]

8 hours ago, Rugd1022 said:

Top Rover chappie Spencer Wilkes trying out one of the Range Rover prototypes, c.1069 / 70...

 

 

43 minutes ago, jcredfer said:

 

Looks better than most of the production models.....

 

Shhh!!

 

If the registration is anything to go by this is two years before they were introduced. 

[boxbrownie]

11 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

 

If the registration is anything to go by this is two years before they were introduced. 

Could easily have been, interestingly my Mk2 1275S was SYE 487F

[tornado64]

On 23/09/2022 at 00:57, pH said:

A rather garish, left hand drive XK-E 2+2 in a mall car park this afternoon:

 

that's the colour i'd want one in . was a roadster in that colour in a local showroom for years , absolutely gorgeous

 

[Dunsignalling]

On 10/10/2022 at 22:13, PhilJ W said:

 

If the registration is anything to go by this is two years before they were introduced. 

Yes, F was 1967-68. E plates were only issued during the first bit of 1967, thereafter the letter change was moved from Jan 1 to mid-year.

 

However, didn't BMC/BL have a habit of transferring registrations from prototypes onto later ones?

 

John

[New Haven Neil]

My mate Marty's E Type. The blue one.  He met the owner of the consecutive reg car at a Jag do.

 

And.....

 

Sir Norman Wisdom waving off the Peel P50 meeting run to go around the TT course.  They didn't make it over the mountain road!  Sir Norman died not long after this.

 

 

 

[boxbrownie]

12 hours ago, Dunsignalling said:

Yes, F was 1967-68. E plates were only issued during the first bit of 1967, thereafter the letter change was moved from Jan 1 to mid-year.

 

However, didn't BMC/BL have a habit of transferring registrations from prototypes onto later ones?

 

John

No idea what BL did all those years ago and how strict the rules were then but we had all ours registered in U.K. or Germany, when the prototypes were scrapped the reg was also, or at least we never used them again, that was from ‘77 on.

[PhilJ W]

The rule was that you could have an earlier reg on a newer car but not a later reg on an older car. So for example if you had a 1969 car you could have say a D reg but not an M reg. 

[Dunsignalling]

1 hour ago, PhilJ W said:

The rule was that you could have an earlier reg on a newer car but not a later reg on an older car. So for example if you had a 1969 car you could have say a D reg but not an M reg. 

AIUI, that's still the case with the current registration format. 

 

John

[boxbrownie]

16 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

The rule was that you could have an earlier reg on a newer car but not a later reg on an older car. So for example if you had a 1969 car you could have say a D reg but not an M reg. 

Yes, so you cannot pass off an older car as younger than it is.

 

TBH you’d have to be a bit thick not to at very least check when it was first registered though 😁

[ERIC ALLTORQUE]

On 01/10/2022 at 16:07, Erichill16 said:

All that glitters…….

They got the colour right but i will keep my ZR 160.

[alastairq]

4 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

Yes, so you cannot pass off an older car as younger than it is.

Perception rules, methinks....?

I once worked, for a couple of years, as a full time{?} driver for Revills Coaches, of Langtoft [East Yarkshoire]..An old company, previously Berrimans & Revills...whose business maiy consisted of LA contracts[schools, etc] and some as & when runs for local companies like Twydales Turkeys. Private hire produced the out of hours business.  A real rural transport outfit, complete with all the dodges one could imagine [including a Dodge wrecker, AKA quarry tipper]

 

Anyway, they had 3{?...or was it two?]  Ford Transit minibuses. Plus a Transit van. [Plus a Tranny freezer truck....and I think, a Luton as well?]

 

The Transits were all Mk 1 vehicles, diesels and petrols...

The minibuses became the topic of criticism from schools etc as being too tatty and rusty, thus bringing schools 'names' into disrepute.

The problem was solved by acquiring some mk2 Transit [twin rear wheel] bodies...and simply stripping the old buses and transferring everything possible into the new shape bodies.

A coat of fresh paint, and a mop out [perhaps new lino?] and they were ready for the new school year...fresh and gleaming.

As I recall, the old reg number plates were simply screwed to the new shells.....

No-one noticed....

Everyone thought the owners had splashed out on new [-er] minibuses.....They didn't have to drive the things, however...

 

[Taigatrommel]

Some sightings in my local breaker's (Harry Buckland) today.  I confess, I don't know what the estate is.  Not really under the remit of this thread, but there were a trio of Mk V Escorts and two Peugeot 405s in too.

[PhilJ W]

22 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

The rule was that you could have an earlier reg on a newer car but not a later reg on an older car. So for example if you had a 1969 car you could have say a D reg but not an M reg. 

 

6 hours ago, boxbrownie said:

Yes, so you cannot pass off an older car as younger than it is.

 

TBH you’d have to be a bit thick not to at very least check when it was first registered though 😁

That did result in the police thwarting a car bomb attack by the IRA. They used two cars with false number plates, one (a Ford Corsair IIRC) was a few years older than the other. However they put the number plates on the wrong cars and the Corsair had an R reg. plate instead of the intended G reg. plate. An eagle eyed police officer spotted it and the bomb was discovered and the other car was identified and both bombs were defused.

[RANGERS]

3 hours ago, Taigatrommel said:

Some sightings in my local breaker's (Harry Buckland) today.  I confess, I don't know what the estate is.  Not really under the remit of this thread, but there were a trio of Mk V Escorts and two Peugeot 405s in too.

The estate looks like a Hillman Hunter.

 

[MJI]

4 hours ago, Taigatrommel said:

Some sightings in my local breaker's (Harry Buckland) today.  I confess, I don't know what the estate is.  Not really under the remit of this thread, but there were a trio of Mk V Escorts and two Peugeot 405s in too.

 

Many hours getting parts ftom there

[boxbrownie]

19 hours ago, alastairq said:

Perception rules, methinks....?

I once worked, for a couple of years, as a full time{?} driver for Revills Coaches, of Langtoft [East Yarkshoire]..An old company, previously Berrimans & Revills...whose business maiy consisted of LA contracts[schools, etc] and some as & when runs for local companies like Twydales Turkeys. Private hire produced the out of hours business.  A real rural transport outfit, complete with all the dodges one could imagine [including a Dodge wrecker, AKA quarry tipper]

 

Anyway, they had 3{?...or was it two?]  Ford Transit minibuses. Plus a Transit van. [Plus a Tranny freezer truck....and I think, a Luton as well?]

 

The Transits were all Mk 1 vehicles, diesels and petrols...

The minibuses became the topic of criticism from schools etc as being too tatty and rusty, thus bringing schools 'names' into disrepute.

The problem was solved by acquiring some mk2 Transit [twin rear wheel] bodies...and simply stripping the old buses and transferring everything possible into the new shape bodies.

A coat of fresh paint, and a mop out [perhaps new lino?] and they were ready for the new school year...fresh and gleaming.

As I recall, the old reg number plates were simply screwed to the new shells.....

No-one noticed....

Everyone thought the owners had splashed out on new [-er] minibuses.....They didn't have to drive the things, however...

 

That'll work if you don't mind being prosecuted if caught, sounds quite usual for most coach/bus companies 🤣

[PhilJ W]

London 1930.

 

[Oldddudders]

8 hours ago, PhilJ W said:

London 1930

 

When jaywalking was a way of life, evidently!

[alastairq]

1 hour ago, Oldddudders said:

When jaywalking was a way of life, evidently!

Aaah, but notice, everybody seemed to be looking where they were going, or looking about in their environment.

 

Unlike today?  :)

[boxbrownie]

I was stunned by the number of (and enthusiasm) of the Porters running to meet passengers off the trains.