Dreadnought05 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Oh. Well that's disappointing, but not wholly unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushType4 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Agreed. I may have a chat with C&L after they get back to normal and enquire if they would be prepared to do a small radius left, right & wye as complete kits. What do you want in the kit and what would you be happy to pay? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 link Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Rather than wait a year, start building them yourself it is easier than you think . Martyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 What do you want in the kit and what would you be happy to pay? I like the idea of the "kit in a bag" with everything required and the frog, vee and blades ready made and a laser cut wooden sleeper base. A 36" or 42" radius left, right and Y would be ideal for small layouts. Fifty quid (give or take a bit) would seem reasonable. according to peco guy at telford it will be a minimum of 12 months before we see set track points Didnt they say that last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushType4 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I like the idea of the "kit in a bag" with everything required and the frog, vee and blades ready made and a laser cut wooden sleeper base. A 36" or 42" radius left, right and Y would be ideal for small layouts. Fifty quid (give or take a bit) would seem reasonable. Didnt they say that last year? If you are serious PM me and I'll put an pack together of what you need including laser cut base etc. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushType4 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 All gone quiet on this thread, I was expecting my inbox to be over flowing with would be 7mm'ers wanting settrack kits! Guess there isn't a market after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm sure that we're all expecting peco to deliver the goods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkCoast Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I am running O gauge in an area of total width of only 8 feet. I am not restricted to 0-4-0 tanks because all my coarse scale locomotives will operate within 3 foot radius or less. The latest mainline locos of Ace Trains of London and Seven Mill Models whilst lacking little bits of added detail are overall very convincing. They are now all 2 and 3 rail easily switchable. Indeed the Seven Mill bodies are produced by DJH and are I believe the same body shell as used in their ready to run finescale offerings. To see these standing and in action google a much much larger layout Roy James, Dream City Layout. I would also recommend the tinplate tankers produced by ETS for W J Vintage to sell. If the trains are viewed only from within the circuit then the tight curves are less offensive to view than when seen from the outside looking in. I do not think Roy James is limited for space but he has chosen to change his finescale locos for coarse scale ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 All gone quiet on this thread, I was expecting my inbox to be over flowing with would be 7mm'ers wanting settrack kits! Guess there isn't a market after all. Maybe the people likely to buy Setrack O points, are also the people still waiting to buy Dapol locomotives to run on them??.... no locos = no need for track..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The PECO setrack points were apparently on show at the Frankfurt Toy Fair:- http://www.spurnull-magazin.de/neuheiten/rund-ums-gleis/spielwarenmesse-2015-peco/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 those dimensions in the German article are a bit odd. At that radius the point would be 393mm not 168mm, which is length of OO setrack points. A point 168mm long would be very popular for small industrial/dockyard layouts. It should be possible to build small locos even 6 wheelers to go round sharper curves. My old Rivarossi O gauge 060 happily goes round 15in curves. Buffer lock is probably more difficult to prevent but not impossible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_gauge_novice Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) 168mm is the length of the blades till the frog/v iron or whatever. The diverging radius is 1028mm. I guess the total length should be around 300mm. Hope this helps. Cheers Andreas 168mm is the length of the blades till the frog/v iron or whatever. The diverging radius is 1028mm. I guess the total length should be around 300mm. Hope this helps. Cheers Andreas Edited February 11, 2015 by 0_gauge_novice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 those dimensions in the German article are a bit odd. At that radius the point would be 393mm not 168mm, which is length of OO setrack points. A point 168mm long would be very popular for small industrial/dockyard layouts. It should be possible to build small locos even 6 wheelers to go round sharper curves. My old Rivarossi O gauge 060 happily goes round 15in curves. Buffer lock is probably more difficult to prevent but not impossible. The Ixion Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST will negotiate 36" radius and I have had it down to 28". The Fowler 0-4-0DM will easily take 24". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 So, does this mean we are closer to seeing the Peco Setrack points for sale in the UK? Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Hope so. This thread is nearly 18 months old since they were first announced. I have need for at least one, and possibly more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Going by how many sleepers there are, they are about 15"~16" long, with a radius of 40.5", so not going to be a great saving on space, but will allow tighter curvature into sidings. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using frogs & blades from the 6ft radius points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
switcher 1 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 The Ixion Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST will negotiate 36" radius and I have had it down to 28". The Fowler 0-4-0DM will easily take 24". That is nice to know, as I may still have to try building points, seeing as Peco's are still looking to be too big, if I am ever going to get an 0 gauge layout built. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share Posted February 11, 2015 They seem to be similar to the Lenz O gauge points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) The Ixion Hudswell Clarke 0-6-0ST will negotiate 36" radius and I have had it down to 28". The Fowler 0-4-0DM will easily take 24".Hah - t'aint nuthin.... my AtlasO six-axle SD40 can take 2ft-radius curves..... It can't pull any rolling stock round that corner, though... Points were made from Code 100 rail, soldered to pcb strip, over photocopies of old Lima setrack points. If I can do it, anyone can. Edited February 11, 2015 by F-UnitMad 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSB Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Going by how many sleepers there are, they are about 15"~16" long, with a radius of 40.5", so not going to be a great saving on space, but will allow tighter curvature into sidings. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using frogs & blades from the 6ft radius points. They could easily be shortened by 4 or 5 sleepers saving two to three inches and I doubt they are using the frogs from medium radius points as they are around 1 in 7 and the angle on these looks around 1 in 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Well, at least we know the things exist! It appears that they are intended to match the radius of the set track, although it appears to be about 40.5", I would have preferred 42", but I can live with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted February 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 12, 2015 Great. This will democratise Gauge 0. Ideal for Compact industrial layouts. I don't need to build points. Bring them on. When will they be ready? I guess not for my next trip to the UK in May! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 As I've said many times before, anything that can make O gauge more accessible can only be good for 7mm modelling as a whole. With the good range of rtr stock now available it is only a matter of time before an "O gauge starter set" is available with a loco, a few wagons and an oval of track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatB Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 So, as far as availability new, realistically expected soon, or recently secondhand we've got locos (Ixion), wagons (Dapol, Lionheart, Skytrex) and track (Peco). The one hole I can see that limits the scope for a small r-t-r layout is a brake van as I don't think anyone does one. Not an insurmountable obstacle but a significant one as a brake van is probably one of the more demanding demanding wagon kit builds for a first timer and you do need one for anything other than a pure industrial scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) It will probably be 400mm long, as that is the length of the set-track standard straight. The excess length at the frog end can probably be trimmed down. I don't know what the track centres are for the set-track, but that can probably be trimmed down as well, giving you a shorter overall cross-over. Based on having two standard curves (1020mm radius, 22.5 degree angle) set into an S-bend, this gives track centres of 156mm (some high school trigonometry, which surprisingly I still remember and use!)Using the same mathematics, reducing the track centres to 80mm, you can get a cross-over in a total length of 566mm - quite handy if you ask me! Edited February 12, 2015 by hartleymartin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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