ozzyo Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) A good three way asymmetrical point in the F/S track range at 6' rad. would be a good move, and then do it in L/H by that I mean the L/H point branching off first and R/H versions with the R/H point branching off first. But that may take a long looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. OzzyO. Edited May 18, 2015 by ozzyo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 They still have not done both in HO/OO - their biggest-selling range! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 At least two sources of RTL three-way points: http://www.aandhmodels.co.uk/45036-three-way-manual-turnout--1125-degrees-1519-p.asp http://www.marcway.net/list2.php?col=head&name=Marcway+O+Gauge+Pointwork Usual disclaimers. I have never even looked in detail at Lenz track; according to the A&H website, the rail is NS FB. Marcway is NS BH rail, soldered to copperclad timbers, and available in 6 configurations. I'm sure Peco have done their sums - if they thought that it would be a profitable investment, it would be on their "to do" list. Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I've seen the Lenz points. I'm also told that quite a few German modellers don't like them and prefer to use either hand-made points or, (surprise) Peco Code 143. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Finally got around to ordering a loop, probably the most expensive loop of track I've bought. Does this stuff hold together well without being on a board, i.e. a patio or hard floor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 We're about to find out... Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Lol, will try and remember to post results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share Posted November 17, 2015 If it's similar to the Lenz track it won't be a problem. Very robust, even cat proof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Gents I'm having slight difficulty picking out the "nuggets" from this thread, so could anyone clarify for me? 1) are Peco going to make c40" radius set-track points? 2) what code rail and/or flange-depth clearance to the rail-fastenings? 3) adjustable check rail gaps, or fixed, and if so to suit what back-to-back? I'm into coarse-scale, which explains the questions, and if you follow the link to my thread, you can see what it is possible to fit into a converted garage, and read my rant about how many people deceive themselves into believing that 0 scale necessarily needs huge-radius curves, which it doesn't. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted November 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2015 Tower Models have a useful plan view of the points on their website which shows a 40.5" radius, rail code and some indication of flange clearance. Due late 2016 according to the G0G guys. Not a moment too soon. I may have built some points by then! http://www.tower-models.com/- look under PECO track Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Dava Much appreciated. Easy website to navigate, isn't it! That point certainly has potential. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Due late 2016 according to the G0G guys. Dava Blimey, another year to wait. What are they doing, growing them from plastic dust? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 The track came today, I was quite surprised how large the corners are. I shouldn't be surprised given the scale, but when compared to OO and N scale equivalents, these are very forgiving corners. The track holds together quite tightly so I doubt it'll come apart when floor running. Very good quality and the sleepers seem to be quite tough, again compared to the OO equivalent. Might try and get some running in over the weekend and maybe a video review if I have time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I'm into coarse-scale, which explains the questions, and if you follow the link to my thread, you can see what it is possible to fit into a converted garage, and read my rant about how many people deceive themselves into believing that 0 scale necessarily needs huge-radius curves, which it doesn't. Kevin It seems to me that huge-radius curves are in fact more due to couplings rather than size of models. Using buffers & 3-links needs generous radii for UK stuff bigger than short 4-wheel types. With US O Scale I'm building a roundy-roundy in my loft, 17ft x 8ft, using 36inch radius curves, & it's 2-rail finescale. Yes the stock looks silly on such curves if viewed from overhead, but the layout is mounted quite high, so an eye-level, inside-curve view (you'd be a remarkable contortionist to get an outside-curve view!!!) gives quite an acceptable view and is a compromise I can live with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Can't answer for longer wheelbase or tender engines, but adding a link to the coupling chain would allow much tighter radii curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I generally use over-scale-length coupling links on my stock. They're easy enough to form using small round-nose pliers and 0.4mm brass or steel wire. I usually make the last link steel so that a slightly magnetised hook will pick them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadnought05 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Could we get this thread moved into the new Peco section? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 4, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 4, 2016 At least two sources of RTL three-way points: http://www.aandhmodels.co.uk/45036-three-way-manual-turnout--1125-degrees-1519-p.asp http://www.marcway.net/list2.php?col=head&name=Marcway+O+Gauge+Pointwork Usual disclaimers. I have never even looked in detail at Lenz track; according to the A&H website, the rail is NS FB. Marcway is NS BH rail, soldered to copperclad timbers, and available in 6 configurations. I'm sure Peco have done their sums - if they thought that it would be a profitable investment, it would be on their "to do" list. Best Simon And, of course, the first of those is made by.....Peco. The radius/geometry that Peco plan to use also seems to be the same as Lenz R2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Joseph Are you sure? I don't think there's any tie-up between Peco and Lenz, and the tracks don't look at all similar. I guess it is possible that Peco contract manufacture for Lenz, but I've never heard of this if so (but then I'm not privy to what they do!!!) best Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) I think the points are different radius, the set track curves certainly are. Edited February 4, 2016 by two tone green Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughan45 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) The current Lenz three way turnout is made by Peco under contract, unlike the other parts of the Lenz trackage system. Not sure if Lenz sourced a previous version from another supplier though. I have recently purchased one of these Lenz turnouts and it is built in much the same way as other Peco O gauge pointwork but with continental style sleepering and spacing. It features proper rail section for the crossings (frogs), unlike the other Lenz turnouts which I believe use cast or stamped items in this area, much like Atlas USA O scale turnouts. On the underside of the sleepers in addition to having the Lenz trademark it also says 'PECO Made in England' Key differences to UK Peco turnouts are the use of plastic for the check rails and an operating lever next to each tie bar in addition to the usual Peco 'over-centre' spring arrangement. The rail section matches the flat bottom rail in the Peco code 143 series but the rail is held in place by 'chairs' not 'Pandrol clips'. The geometry appears designed to mirror that of the existing Lenz range which is not the same as Peco UK products. The crossings (frogs) are DCC friendly with separate wires provided to power them independently via a changeover switch or a hex frog juicer. Edited February 4, 2016 by vaughan45 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 well, i bought an oval of this set track, my terriers run well round it with my mix of 4 wheel wagons, and push the wagons round without buffer locking, even my longest wagon, the pill box and the long end of the terriers don't buffer lock coming onto the straights. so thumbs up from me, just need points. this allows me to play and run in my locos. needless to say, my Heljan class 47 can't push back round the track. anyone want to swap it for another terrier LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Would you try and S curve for us? I think that is where the buffer locking would occur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Ok. Regarding s bend... Bear in mind the terrier has a long end (cab end) and short end so the swing is different each end. First, using my pillbox brake, as it has a long wheelbase and overhang, the buffers locked on the long end of the terrier but made it through on the short end. I repeated the exercise with my slaters Thomas Meakings Po wagon and it worked both end of the terrier It must be noted that it is only just not buffer locking and done at low speed allowing buffer faces time to wipe. If done quick then they might lock. I shall put a vid on YouTube and drop it on here to see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
47606odin Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 hope this helps 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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